Suggestion: Green Energy Buccaneer's Bicorne at 76–95 keys

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~103 keys

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This suggestion was closed Fri, 15 Aug 14 16:05:02 +0000 by the submitter.

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Remaking for the last time now, accidently made the range 5-5.1 ^.^ Counter to the last suggestion were he missed that a bud was inolved in the circling heart noble trade.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21705379 Sold for Harvest Helm (4.5) + 1 pure

(4.5 * 0.9) + 1 = 5.05 (rounding to 5 for a neater range)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21349459 Sold with 1 bud for Hearts Noble (5.5)

5.5 * 0.9 - 1 = 3.95 (rounding to 4)

Sold together with g.e AA (5), 19 keys (1), s.f rocket launcher (1.8) + S.F Sticky (0.8) for Ghost Stash (12.9)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093331796?time=1406962800 -> http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093331796?time=1407049200

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12.9 - 5 - 1 - 1.8 - 0.8 = 5.1 (Rounding to 5 for a neater range)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21720612 > http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21811006 - Sold with 8 keys (~0.4) for knifestorm Bicorne.

4.8 - 0.4 = 4.4

Mini on Knifestorm Bicorne:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21407639 - Sold together with black juju (0.7) for hearts samur eye (5.5)

5.5 - 0.7 = 4.8

No overpay since offered

Conclusion:

1 sale at 4 buds

1 sale at 4.4 buds

2 sales at ~5 buds

Putting a range of 4-5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2774515824,143,6 This is the bud in question, not, entirely sure, how I missed that XD

Therefore, by virtue of you having personal experience with this, this is better. Upvote :3

I sold it myself, so that's why I know it :P

>By virtue of you having personal experience with this

I know you sold it yourself, that's what I meant X3

4 buds seems too low. Seen offers above 4.

Links :

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21589859

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21632862

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21729705

That's why the range is there :P

L1: Offer not available

L2: Agreed on 5 pure, offer not available, other offer is 3:rd gen unsellable crap (No offers in a week)

L3: Merryweather outdated

good job using one sale to price the knifestorm bicorne

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21639038

i got offers of burning bonnet (5.5, i declined) and sunbeams cowl (6.1, he traded it away before i could discuss)

4.8 is a ridiculous price for the knifestorm

I didn't price it, I used it as a mini suggestion.

As i investigate further, I see you have been lying and price manipulating:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21685051

Bicorne was offered on the noble (NO OVERPAY) http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53e5269f4ed7b8af328b4adb (you said yourself the trade was worth 5.9)

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53e5269f4ed7b8af328b4adb

on that same price suggestion you said:

"Mini on Bicorne:

http://i.imgur.com/Q0RZivh.png - Sold for Harvest Moon Bonk Helm (4.1) + 25 keys (1.3)

Total sale value: 5.4"

dont forget this price suggestion where you said "It should be safe too put a value of 6 on this one." when discussing the GE Bicorne price

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53e0ec2c4ed7b8dc108b4892

Plus, in that suggestion you applied REVERSE overpay,

"http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21705379 - Sold with 1 bud for G.E Bicorne (5.4 after overpay)

Sale value: 4.4

Mini on the Bicorne:

Sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21589859 - 6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21720612 - 6.5 (Declined duped knifestorm merryweather)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21726942 - 6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21729705 - 6

It should be safe too put a value of 6 on this one."

That really should have been valued at 5, not 4.4

So you incorrectly used reverse overpay to price the Bonk Helm at 4.4-4.6, when 4.6-5 should have been the real price. Then you applied overpay to the bonk helm using the price already skewed by overpay to value it at 4.05, when it should be at least 4.3, making that sale worth 5.3 total.

In the Noble trade you used this image instead http://i.imgur.com/Q0RZivh.png We can see that actually 1.3 was added to the Bonk not 1 bud. That is a blatant lie. So 4.3 + 1.3 is actually 5.6. And in this suggestion http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53e0ec2c4ed7b8dc108b4892 if you had used overpay correctly, that would value the Bicorne at 6 buds.

And on the noble trade you used this image http://i.imgur.com/NQBGBGi.png so you could apply overpay, which then causes a lower, skewed price of the noble, which you then use to reapply overpay on this trade. In that suggestion you valued the trade at 5.9, in this one you valued it at 5. Thats essentially a bud difference right there.

Mods, I suggest you reconsider his previously accepted suggestions.

Besides the fact that you should use the value of the hats listed at the time of the trades, which you completely disregard.

I have been price manipulating? What are you even talking about? Price manipulation is when you try raising a price for your own sake, too make your backpack value higher or to get more profit out of your unusual(s). All the sales I have been using from myself was at the time when it was already sold which gained me nothing at all.

As for this suggestion, I was tired and made a few mistakes here and there, yet you feel the need to call me a liar and a price manipulator which does not feel very good to be accused of.

As for the bicorne being offered on the noble. The pricing was off the noble and if I take any offer I recieve on the noble, then overpay will be applied.

5.4 * 0.9 = 4.9

I can't really defend myself on this suggestion, as said. I made a few mistakes here and there. Not every suggestion can be perfect, no need to be rude about it.

If you feel that my suggestions are so wrong, why don't you take 10 off your own minutes to counter them?

The value of the hats at the time was wrong, wether it was outdated or not.

I do suggestions because I find it too be fun. If a mod accepted it I assumed that it would be fine and just moved along. I did not want too get into any argument and be called a liar over something I do for fun.

I'm closing this. If you have any questions, feel free to add me.

damm double Drop