Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 7.44–7.55 ref

You're about 2 hours (3 hours if you consider the time this suggestion has been up) early unless the site is screwing up with my timezone, which is PDT at the time.

My last suggestion got closed at 7AM (SE Asian Timezone) and Polar told me to resuggest 8 hours later, which means now.

Mr. Delicious Cashew said though

> http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53e6bd664dd7b8427a8b46f1 Was accepted around 3:30 AM PST on 8/10. Right now its 17:10 PST on 8/12... You really can't wait 10 more hours for the cooldown to officially end?

...emphasizing the 3 days cooldown. That also was ~8 hours ago.

Just wait the 2 hours. I'm sure you'll manage to ninja it like the last few times.

Well he must have misread the times because clearly you are 3 hours early.

https://i.imgur.com/bYTfl8J.png

http://i.imgur.com/kxfzxqD.png

Nice proof upvote

The cooldown is over for real.

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The cooldown is stupid. Keys have been regularly trading for less than the suggested for a few days now, and so it has therefore been inaccurate. I don't know how this is acceptable.

As far as I'm aware, currency cooldown is an attempt to prevent backpack from leading the market with its prices - i.e. instead of reflecting market prices, they might start influencing them. At least, that's the theory. It's pretty apparent that backpack does have an impact on key prices anyway.

I understand the reason behind it, but my point is that it's undermining the accuracy of the site. Right now I'd suggest that people pay attention to tf2finance's aggregated key chart and trade.tf's automated spreadsheet, and that's precisely because backpack.tf cannot be trusted due to the cooldown which is interfering with the timely posting of accurate suggestions.

Oh, I agree, I'm more likely to use trade.tf to give an accurate view of the market most of the time. But I do genuinely believe that if there was no cooldown, we'd be seeing at least one suggestion a day for keys dropping, and their prices would either crash even more rapidly, or would create an air of confusion and uncertainty. The exact opposite happened when key prices were rising - people had at least a few days to get keys for almost decent prices before backpack increased their value and the prices jumped again. Unfortunately, the cooldown does mean that backpack is behind on key values - but the alternative, at least in my opinion, is a lot worse.

You're describing market manipulation. With the cooldown, it's backpack.tf doing the manipulation.

I don't think I am, actually. Cooldown's intention is to prevent manipulation. How can you possibly manipulate something when you've literally set up a barrier to prevent the site from influencing it?

You've got it backwards. You're suggesting that anticipation and exploitation of trends by the masses is manipulation, while deliberately intervening to control those trends is not.

No, I'm not. That really isn't it. From what I've read of your comments, and what I've interpreted, we're thinking on a fairly similar page anyway. But before this snowballs, shall we call quits?

If you want. But we're definitely NOT on the same page. I think the site's purpose is to report suggestions which accurately reflect the market, and you apparently think it's okay for the mods to temporarily refuse to do so (cooldowns). I think that is in direct conflict with what I understand to be the purpose of the site.

I go to trade.tf for accuracy.

Better than the other suggestion, upvote

Down and down they go. Where they'll stop? Nobody knows!

Upvote.

I wonder how low keys are going to get! Hopefully back to its original 2.55 ref!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6PbdJiAK84

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Just a little update, since you used my trade ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21440218 ). I ended up selling my last 2 keys at 7.44.

Oh baby a triple! :P.

Upboat.

By they way, sorry for being such a dumbo and an asshole in the Madame Dixie suggestion. Did not know much about suggestions. I apologize, could thou accept zis?

Apology's accepted.

I make love, not war :3

Thank you :3

Sorry for being a fucktard there. Haven't slept alot, and was a little pissed off by schoolmates.

Have a nice day anyway!

Mr.Giang

Slayer of the Keys.

Savior of the Community.

Hell-bringer to the sellers at 8.44

Yep, better than the another one suggestion. Upvote, and waiting for the next suggestion hehehe.

Upvote, seems like a reasonable range. 7.33 still sells pretty fast.

Finally,the keys are going down,if we make the price less than 7 ref again,a thousand of years with peace and happiness will come,if it rise again... World War III is coming.