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I'm selling 3.33, and in trade server, it's hard to sell with 3.33. I think that 3.33-3.44 will be a good price for a few time and we will have change the price again. 3.33 you can find a lot and it's not sell but you can't find less. You could never find someone who sold a ToD 3.66, even 3.55. ToD Banking is now hard because the prices are higher that they were supposed to be. Also, hope you think that my idea was good ^^
3.22 =
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21985030
3.33 =
http://bazaar.tf/trade/963552
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21951276
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21984760
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21984352
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21984017
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10231115
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21980714
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21978695
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21978175
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10230807
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21955075
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21952654
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21952585
Not sold for 3.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21982275
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10231076
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21981011
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21977749
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21980029
Not sold for 3.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21983970
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21982857
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21982745
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10231033
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21980348
Not sold for 3.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21984464
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21984402
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21981802
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21981379
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21981020
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21954945
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21954915
http://bazaar.tf/trade/960863
Hope that is enough proofs
You missed my trade, selling for 3.33, only 3 solds since yesterday (and I think they came from bp.tf clssifieds)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21950748
Tried to sell them for 3.55 ea few days ago, literally no solds.
With 3.44 it was 1-2 solds/day.
I've sold plenty for 2 for a key and 3.55-3.66
http://prntscr.com/4dl24y
http://prntscr.com/4dl2kb
downvote for now
3.33 is quickselling.
usually a quick sell is sold faster ;')
Your proof for 3.33.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21984352 - Sold in less than 1 hour.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21978695 - Sold in 3 hours.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21955075 - Sold 1/2 with no bumps.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21952654 - Sold without a bump.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21952585 - Sold several in less than 3 hours.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21984760 - 1 hour old. Sold.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21984017 - 1 hour old.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21980714 - 4 hours old. No bumps.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21952654 - 1 day old. Never bumped.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21978175 - Selling at 3.44.
thats why it haves to be the price :p also there were more but i didn't put them
That makes no sense. The ones that sold fast, sold because the price was so low. The rest are very young and haven't been seen by other people. Your proof is pretty bad here. If there is more proof, you should always post it. You are trying to show which price best represents the current market.
I didn't know the market price of a ToD. I made this suggestion only because the most of people are selling 3.33
Even bots are selling ToD 3.44 and buying 3.33
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/fh_trading_bots#announcements/detail/278415331592412489
Also price on market is 1.06 and i am suggesting 0.83 $ ^.^
The market price doesn't mean much since there is a 15% fee.
Bots buy low and sell higher to make a profit.
i know, and why they sell 3.44 ? price is 3.55-3.66 ^^
People sell them slightly lower to get them sold faster.
Damn right it's a quicksell
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22007079#latest
if everyone quicksells and you wanna sell your ticket for a higher price no-one wanna buy it, why do you wanna pay more?? so quicksellers make the price (if theare are a lot of them) he said 3.44> is not sold and that is the price
If you can manage to find a quicksale, great. But you can't always find one and therefore you'd have to buy for higher or wait.
These are going down in price, as keys go down too.. Most traders were doing 2:1 Tour of Duty Ticket for Keys so...
I get a few 2:1 deals a week, which going by your logic would put the value of a ticket at around 3.7
It's just not good logic.
This isn't even close, but I do think that 3.66 is getting increasingly difficult and the market is being flooded with bulk sellers at 3.33. I have no idea where they are getting their tickets from.
Mann co store, duh.
No, maybe they got a seller for 3.11 or 3.22. That's banking ^^
Duh
ಠ_ಠ
ToD Tickets are ideal for money-to-metal conversion, because they're currently the most cost effective. They're the most in-demand of non-key items, and have a higher dollar-to-metal rate than keys, at $0.99 : ~3.44. Keys, meanwhile, are $2.49 : ~2.8.
This is where the market for ToD Tickets comes from. Hell, even the tickets on the community market can end up selling for more than the ones in the store. (Currently: Tickets are 1.07, 8 cents more than on the store, even if only because of Valve's share added.)
Also, pretty sure nobody banks for 3.11 or 3.22.
So why are they selling 3.33 ^^
Keys are currently dropping, which is the (indirect) cause of the ToD tickets' drop. ToD tickets have been indirectly linked to keys for a while now. Like I said earlier, to make a profit, tickets need to be more
politeefficient than keys. If tickets are still worth 3.44 but keys are dropping/metal is rising, why would people buy ToD tickets? 2inefficient. /convoluted circular logicTwo tickets for a key has been a very common deal, even if it's a pretty bad one. In any case, I think 3.44-3.55 might be a better range.
I'm drunk, you don't have an excuse
The price can't be 3.55 if the people are selling for less
It can, actually. That's what a price range is. Obviously it wouldn't be, practically speaking- who would buy at 3.55 when you get 3.44? But sales still happen, and suggestions reflect the market, not just logic.
No, it can't. The price must be the price people sell the item [ except quicksells ]. If the price still 3.55, 3.33 will count as a quicksell, even if it isn't
If I understand you correctly, then by your definition, a range is a self-contradiction.
Like I said, the market price is determined by the majority of sellers. backpack.tf reflects this market price- it does not dictate it.
Quicksells are inherently lower than the set price of a given site's price spreadsheet, so if you call lower-end sales "quicksales," then a price can never be lowered. I'm not saying the price of these tickets shouldn't be lowered, or that sales at either 3.33 or at 3.55 are impossible. Just further defining quicksells.
tl;dr Sales below market price aren't always quicksells. If there's enough of them, I would consider the sale at that price to be the actual price.
I respect your opinion, but i don't have the same
I respect your opinion, and your respect of my opinion. BTW I'm not the one who downvoted your comment. Thanks for not starting a flame war :v
like it to make it 0 XD
No, Mann Co. Store. Trust me, I'm one of them every now and then.
Range could use some work, would work better as a conservative drop rather than a full 2-3 scrap drop
Down Vote for now
should i make it 3.44-3.55 ?
From the proof provided and the experience I've had with tickets, 3.33 is a quicksell. While 3.44 is the more stable price.
I sell mine 2 for a key or one for 4.33 and have no issues getting buyers
Sold a few the last few days, 2 for a key . Sorry but downvote.
2 for 1 key a lot of people are doing that but one you could never sell it 3.88
2x 3.88 = 7.77. A key is 7.44-7.55 atm and I can easily get them for less so how do you get 3.88?
just now sold 4 tod's for 2 keys, so still possible...
Try to sell one for 3.88.
do you even read?
where do you get this 3.88 from?
try to sell 3.72 so
I think that is possible. Especiallly in weekends.
If you look at the price during the day you will notice it's going up and down. I assume you're from the Netherlands as well, much items go for a little more at times that we're supposed to sleep.
I'm not from netherlands. Second, i can't sell it 3.33 how will you sell 3.72
If you can't sell it for 3.33 I understand it seems ridiculous to you. 3.33 = sold within an hour
Nope, 3.33 = unsold after 1 day
Just by reading the front part, I almost downvoted. Just by reading the rest of it, I downvoted.
nope. sold 4 for 2 keys. downvote.
i sold 2 today for 3.66
downvote
bought 2 for 3.33 and thers like 1 page in classifieds for 3.33 so, upvote
The tf2 economy is a peculiar one. I don't understand why these are selling for above 3 refined. If a key costs 2.50 from the store, and a ticket costs 1.00 then why are the tickets selling for close to half the price of a key in metal? Basic mathematics say it should be ~40% of the price of one key which is about 2.9-3 refined. Can someone ELI5? I am honestly curious.
a lot of the buyers just don't care about that.
and because not all people buy stuff straight from the store
Just sold 6 for 3 keys- Downgoat