Suggestion: Scorching Flames Pencil Pusher at 475 keys

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~1050 keys

scorch

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Time for a long overdue update on this freakin' amazing hat.

Sale: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21994201

Sold for 20 pure (3 of the pure being a Max Head, which is slightly over 3 pure but I think it is appropriate to round down for such a higher tier suggestion plus a roboactive nickel (5.1)=25.1, rounding to 25.

Before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048792033?time=1407999600

After: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048792033

Mini on the Roboactive Nickle taken from the accepted Purple Energy Pencil Pusher suggestion:

"Only usable sale found. Others are way too old, or involving scammer trade and scammer alt trade.

Sold for a DP yellow belt (2.7) + max head (3) ~ 5.7 buds:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961478314?time=1400655600 - after

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961478314?time=1400310000 - before

5.7 * 0.9 = 5.1 buds"

Supporting evidence to show the price is clearly awfully awfully outdated: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21383387 was offered 30 pure collecting, probably by Randombrother. as well as 20 pure collecting by me before that.

I'm pretty sure you only need 1 sale to update the price of a hat, please correct me if I am wrong. There were 2 other sales (one of which resulted in a silly 81 bud price suggestion for this hat), but the first was complex and involved many other hats and some unusual taunts and the second I have been unable to determine from their backpack histories and there was no trade on Outpost for it. It is likely the second sale involved cash or something along those lines and is not confirmable.

Oh, and before you see I own one and cry "price manipulation!", I don't plan on selling this soon. It's one of my dream hats.

Again, if there is anything wrong with this suggestion, please correct me and I will close it and try to fix it.

The 81 bud sale was probably a lot lower in value. Neymar added some Anti-Freeze unusuals and unusual taunts, I guess, It'd probably rank it closer to 50-60 buds. Not to mention, Neymar tends to overpay a lot for hats he really likes. He was the one that bought the Burning Dread Riding Hood for 85 buds.

Anyways, congratulations on selling this amazing misc. Since this is the only valid sale after it became a misc, I expect this will definitely get passed. Upvote, because I'm rich.

Yeah, that's why I said the 81 suggestion was silly. Also, it was thought to be 1 of 1 at the time until that one that was in a private backpack came onto the market, so that probably reduced its value quite a bit.

And thanks for the congratulations :)

Oh... you bought this, rather than selling it. My mistake. ;)

I ended up just selling it for a Bintage Gibus, 5 pure, and a Fireproof Diary with me adding 2 keys, so it wasn't a mistake for long!

Am I correct in summing that sale up as being close enough to 25 that I don't need to make a new suggestion?

price manipulation?

Try reading this: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/7-how-to-create-a-good-unusual-price-suggestion/

Quite clearly says that suggesting a price for an unusual you own is not price manipulation as long as it is accurate. Now if I went and made a suggestion for 30 buds and said "I'm not selling this for less than 30 buds" as my only proof, THAT would be price manipulation.

so you overpay for an unusual and that makes it the price?

It's not overpay...the other one on the market has a 30 buds collecting offer from a reputable Engineer unusual collector as I stated in the supporting evidence.

If anything, I got a good deal. It's clear that the price is outdated though and that this is a much updated price.

Please don't call things overpay or underpay when you clearly have no experience with these unusuals.

I wish I had one of these so I could have the epic graph spike when this gets accepted.

woah.... who ever owns it will gain shittons of profits

No they won't if you actually read the suggestion the poster has bought it for that price and if you take a close look at his bp graph you can clearly tell.

Wow, I used to own this..(Got it for my whole bp) and stupidly traded it for some garbage unusuals.

I could've had 25 buds.

what was second sale?

I see v gibus + 5 pure but I'm not sure if that is correct

Oh oops, just sold it to RandomBrother for a Vintage Gibus, 5 pure, and a Fireproof Diary with me adding 2 keys. I valued it around 25.5 minimum since a vintage Gibus got an offer of 20 pure recently. do I need to make a new suggestion even though it fits with the price I suggested here when I round?

Yes, you still need to make a new suggestion. At any rate, the 18 buds sale is still valid, and all items are subjected to 10% overpay. Also, we have no idea if the 20 buds pure is a collecting offer or not, so disregard that.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/

Standardized overpay

All OFFERED hats and items should be taken at 90% of their original average price.

vintage gibus (16.2) + fireproof diary (0.8) + 5 buds ~ 22 buds.

However, if you do have solid proof that the 20 buds sale is not a collecting offer, you can take it as 18-20 buds, which makes it:

Vintage Gibus (17.1) + fireproof diary (0.8) + 5 buds ~ 23 buds.