Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 7.33 ref

Price Suggestion

~57.22 ref

1751 votes up

752 votes down

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This suggestion was marked as bad evidence and closed Fri, 29 Aug 14 06:57:37 +0000 by neverclever.

There should always be enough evidence to back up the new proposed value. However, it appears that the evidence is not strong enough, or cherry-picked in a way that does not represent the actual market value of the item. Therefore, this suggestion has been closed.

Message left by moderator:

As other commentors have pointed out, there is not enough evidence here for a price decrease. Not only do most of the listed links only have 1 key available (which quickly sold), but the "unsolds" are all key resellers whose trade volume is impossible to gauge from comments (and several of which are closed anyway).

Key suggestions need to have more proof posted while they are up in order to provide as clear a picture as possible. There is simply not enough here to accept this decrease.

Comments can no longer be left on this suggestion.

Comments

Been a while since i did this also its been 7 Days and i waited more than 7 hours i can drop it by .5

Classifieds

10 x 7.33

Sellers Below 7.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21551753

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21058028

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22066541

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21697013

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21594265

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22207555 7.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22202221

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22139782

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21652612 Selling for 2.44 Bought 4 for 2.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19355367

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21989884

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22205853

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22204075

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22203154

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21944604

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22088791

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21777710

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22202169

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22201046

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22200553

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22200236

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22199335

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22198984

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22198926

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21490988

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21874377

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21765265

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22197782

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22191437

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22191654

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21884117

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22181374

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22058614

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22180027

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22179723

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22184620

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22167305

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22186971 7.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22185654

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22186459

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22184840

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20922247

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22190424 7.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22189719

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18517593

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22153698

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22143335

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22193342

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18592261

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22194498

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22185204

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22052491

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21275833

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21610746

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22186524

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21965365

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22173327

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22090491

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22177427

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22194198

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21941547

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21897124

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21661761

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20293270

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20658285

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22177044 7.00

Unsolds 7.44 All of the Unsolds are 3 Days and Higher

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18271836

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22082573

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21250246

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21923395

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22031885

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22104836

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22121908

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21973679 1 Week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21669329

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22107645 4 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22072511 5 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21835468 2 Weeks

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22082573 5 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21892670

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21138816

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21762507

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21991972

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22108018 4 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21773277

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21570880 3 Weeks

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22113506 3 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19101223

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20646204

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21485471

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21726454

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21380474

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21706056

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20828789

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21834293

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21390879

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22060601

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18410570

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22062563

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21991492

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20307022

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22123040

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19689001

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22032656

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18271836

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22103406

Added Proofs

Sellers Below 7.33

http://bazaar.tf/trade/980386

http://bazaar.tf/trade/962164

http://bazaar.tf/trade/980349

http://bazaar.tf/trade/717521

http://bazaar.tf/trade/978324

http://bazaar.tf/trade/956563

http://bazaar.tf/trade/978992

http://bazaar.tf/trade/978107

http://bazaar.tf/trade/945915

7.33 seems the most reasonable price currently, 7.22 insta sells, and frankly 7.33 sells pretty fast too, at least in my experience.

ye it does but 7.44 doesn't sell

Your "unsolds" consists of many links that are buyers/resellers and tradebots.. you can't really call it an unsold because you don't know the volume that has been or hasn't been sold, thus you can't just take 7.44 out of the range.. downvote until further proof provided

This is what I came up with for the last 10 hours on the market.

Selling/Sold less than 7.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224167 --> 6.25 each x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22222378 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483480303 --> 7.00 ref

Selling/Sold at 7.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22225088

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224826

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22223618

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22223546

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22222592

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220734 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22219998 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220331

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22219197 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22218899 --> x13

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483480180

Selling/Sold at 7.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224812

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224718 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224654

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224541

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224536

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224310

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22224297

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22225273 --> x6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22225136

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22223890

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22223754 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22223471 --> x8+

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22222993

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22222579

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22222428 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22221952

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22221868 --> x8+

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220976 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220721

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220216 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220211

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220048

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220013

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220385 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22219751 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22219725

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22219175

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22218960

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22218364

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22217652 --> x5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22217601

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22217480

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22217340

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22218076

http://bazaar.tf/trade/982554 --> x2

http://bazaar.tf/trade/982268 --> x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220936

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10242747

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10242603

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10242387 --> x4

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483494013

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483494891

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483494519

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483494612

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483496171 --> x2

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483496178

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483496882

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483484035

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483497099

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483486730

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483487269

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483487885

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483488766

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483490023

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483490421

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483491597 --> x4

Selling/Sold at 7.44 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22223417 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22223130 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22222803 --> x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22221820 --> x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22221496 --> x14

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22221593

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22221225

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22220478 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22219138

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22219109

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22218273 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22217404

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10242455

http://bazaar.tf/trade/982318

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483498747 --> x4

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483484554

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483489102

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483482070

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483481776

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Seems like 7.33 happens a lot more than any other prices.

that was me xP

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483480303 --> 7.00 ref

Again...This is what I came up with for the last 10 hours on the market.

Selling/Sold less than 7.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22243464 --> 6.00 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238592 --> 6.33 ref

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10243571 --> 6.66 ref x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241310 --> 7.00 ref x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240505 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22243278 --> 7.11 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242766 --> 7.11 ref x3

Selling/Sold at 7.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240880 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240461

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22236597

Selling/Sold at 7.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238503 --> x10

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242835 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22243444 --> x6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22243418

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22243361

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242135

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242016

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241977

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241734 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241755

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241459

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241423

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240943

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240922

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240875

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240922

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240875

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240596

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240407 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240008

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239637 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239635

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239203

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239108 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239072 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238974

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238950

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238880 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238804

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238662

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238605 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238441 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238156 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238141

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238158

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238130

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238012 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238021

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22237902

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22237340

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22237291

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22237204 --> x6+

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22236978

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22236914

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22236450 --> x6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22236436

http://bazaar.tf/trade/984123

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10243350

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10243732

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483450614

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483442556

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483442553

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483426407

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483430876 --> x12

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483433036 --> x3

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483434482

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483434119 --> x2

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483419871

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483420313 --> x4

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483422391 --> x12

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483423679 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20658285

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22226464

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22090491

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22244214

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19219987

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18517593

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22222695

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21551753

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22243998

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22066541

Selling/Sold at 7.44 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22243075

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242626 --> x6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242610

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242619

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242253

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242047 --> x6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241952

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241872 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241351

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241330

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22241194

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240323

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240275

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22240013

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239734 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239655

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239408

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239194

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22239097

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238904

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238055

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22237769

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22236571

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22236349

http://bazaar.tf/trade/984361

http://bazaar.tf/trade/984287

http://bazaar.tf/trade/984137

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10243714

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483429885

http://www.trade.tf/trade/483432290

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

7.33 ref seems to sale fast but it is steadily available while 7.44 do sell but takes a bit of time. Dunno if the current range is fine or not, 7.33 seems to occur a lot but sell fast while 7.44 do sell but at a slower rate and them occurring compared to 7.33 is a bit less.

Again...This is what I came up with for the last 10 hours on the market.

NOTE : I have am not supporting nor disapproving this suggestion, just helping out the community and mods overviewing whats happening

every 10 hours or so. I am completely in the grey zone on this one.

Selling/Sold less than 7.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22261859 --> 7.11 ref x8+

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484411962 --> 7.11 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263087 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484318556 --> 7.00 ref; x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22260202 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259148 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22258207 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484418424 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484422796 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22254840 --> 7.00 ref

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10244356 --> 7.00 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22260267 --> bp.tf price

Selling/Sold at 7.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262131

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259131

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22256366 --> x5

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484436454

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484430905 --> x2

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484419176 --> x2

Selling/Sold at 7.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259424 --> x10

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22257004 --> x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255687 --> x6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263634

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263269

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262855 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263942 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263873

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263776 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262684

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262088

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22261935

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22261689

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22261159

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22261111

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22260994

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22260784

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22260728 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259525

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259371 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259398

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22258654

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22258224

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22257990 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22257485

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22257337

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22256396

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22256245 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255948

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255820 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255811

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255803

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255546

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255044

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484314292

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484316571 --> x3

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484312195

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484435178

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484436763

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484437825

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484426952

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484427369

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484427483

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484417833

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484419259

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484423794

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484424304

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484409959

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484411944

http://bazaar.tf/trade/985845 --> x6

Selling/Sold at 7.44 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22264073 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263683

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263559

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263485

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262711

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22264076

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263876

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263830

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263798 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262272

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262027

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22261680

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22260865

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22260612

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259723

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259903

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259489 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259445 --> x11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259072 --> x6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22259016 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22258093

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22257471

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22257305

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22256091

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22256000 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255505

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22255281

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10244509

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484316710

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484437292

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484437098

http://www.trade.tf/trade/484428940

NOTE : I have provided both selling and sold on the same list. Please remember that. Thanks

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Same opinions as the last time I posted this :

7.33 ref seems to sale fast but it is steadily available while 7.44 do sell but takes a bit of time.

Sales will always occur outside of the backpack.tf price in both directions. When it comes to currency suggestions, we want to price it at the most commonly traded price

While 7.33 may sell rather quickly, it's, like you said, steadily available and the most commonly traded at price.

7.44, while does happen sometimes, does not happen as much as 7.33 does.

7.33 seems to be the most commonly traded price at the moment.

Unsolds 2 Days and Higher 7.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21773277 Last add 4 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21672245 Last add 2 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21853198

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22121633

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22140230

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21390879

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21380563 Last add 1 Week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21485471

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21448967 Last add 2 Days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21991492

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22176257

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22113506

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22060601

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22107645

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22031885 Last added 1 Week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22144171

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18854714 Last added 1 Week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22103406

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22082573

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22167470

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20958541

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21853310 Last added 2 Weeks

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22093081 Last added 2 Days

Good proof, but i think your below 7.33 isn't below 7.33

http://bazaar.tf/trade/717521 (7.33)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/978324 (7.33)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/956563 (7.44)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/978992 (7.33)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/978107 (7.33)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/945915 (7.33)

Still gonna upboat btw :D

It seems late but I changed my trade,

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21777710

at 7.44, still sold 2. Seems 7.33 - 7.44 is not bad also.

Most of your unsolds are either sold, or increased to 7.55 now. This suggestion is no longer valid. Please close it already.

The 5th one of your first post of the "Sellers below 7.33 ref" was selling for 7.44 ref by the way.

EDIT: Well trade owner could have changed it anytime so nevermind what I said

I was just chilling in a trade server - and there where 2 or 3 people who wanted to buy keys for 7.33 ref -> so I dont think this needs a drop.

Good proof and good luck with the suggestion. I see a lot of butt hurting dislikes and down votes on this. But I stand with you.

This is good proof! I still buy them for 7.11refine so upvote

Yea 7.33 is a pretty stable price for now.

And as for the proof the "sellers below 7.33" there some for 7.33, separating that can be helpful unless you did that on purpose

maybe and maybe not you will never know Mr. Nano

lol no such thing as stable keys

That's why they said "stable price for now."

I've been buying keys at the suggested price for a long time. Upvote.

Just when you thought keys were stable. Good proof.

If anything this'll make it more stable (or actually a reflection of its own stableness, as the case may be). I'm gonna go ahead and predict that, if this suggestion passes, it'll stay for another week. Maybe two.

Should be 7.22-7.33 since that's what people are paying and selling at. Another suggestion was placed earlier this week and never got approved. I think it got pulled eventhough the user supplied almost 300 links with proof of sold for 7 and even lower at 6.66 and 4.33 yes even those crazy prices.those are quicksells of course but should've been 7 refs at least a couple of weeks ago.

I sell 6 keys/per day for 7.44. Why are you people talking about 7.11-7.22 when keys are being sold every day 7.44...... Key prices must be reasonable and I guess 1 scrap isn't that big deal. Why is everyone so furious about 1 scrap? The proof is good tho and I'll upvote for that.

I sold a key for 2.33! XDXD

If you're serious then you made a really bad deal.

Its not for "deal" or "profit" lol

You're still an idiot for doing so then coming to brag about it on here.

The person more than likely turned around and sold it for 7.33 anyways.

Use the full statement.

"You're still an idiot for doing so then coming to brag about it on here."

There's nothing wrong with selling something piss cheap to be generous, but as he states it, he comes off as wanting to be proud that he sold something for so little, which you don't do if you're trying to be truly charitable.

That is true, that is true :P

I was thinking the same. He/She shouldn't have bragged about it. Haha

No, I sold the key for 2,44 ref

Since it's not for the deal or profit, sell me your other keys for 2.33

I would like to see solds at 7.33. i can't seem to find sellers at 7.33 currently, and they are insta purchased off of the classifieds.

Sorry for the late reply i was doing some stuff here are some sellers for 7.33 like you ask

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22202890

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22209598

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22209911

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22211152

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18592261

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21551753

theres a lot more sellers but you just you want to see some sellers not all the sellers

while i didn't look through all your 7.44 proof, I'm not seeing unsolds, it seems 7.44 still sells. your 7.33 sells are good tho.

while my gut reaction is an upvote, it seems the current range still seems to be working....

well if you see in the unsolds there last comments have been like 3 days ago - 1 week

um... the last unsolds at 7.44 are all sold?

sorry but more 7.44 unsolds would be more appropriate to change the range, currently i don't see a problem with people selling at 7.44

Okay ill find some more unsolds

Plenty of sellers at 7.33, upvote

Seems good, but some solds would be even better

7.33 is the most common price for keys, I've seen some for 7.22 and some for 7.44 but 7.33 is definitely the main trading price for it. Upvote.

http://tf2finance.com/keys/ -Currently exactly at 7.33, though it'll probably fluctuate up or down a bit depending on when you read this.

24 Aug

Realizaste un intercambio con |ÅΩ| John Marsh. 21:43

+Llave de Caja de Suministros de Mann Co., Carrete de Audición de Mann Co.

–Metal Refinado, Metal Refinado, Metal Refinado, Metal Refinado, Metal Refinado, Metal Refinado, Metal Refinado

Key + Reel Crate for 7 Ref

7.44 solds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22182989 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22182809 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22180567 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22172827 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22173432 - 3?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22176903 - 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22182867 - 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22175883 - 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22184755 - 1 (has 50+)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22174852 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22180572 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22177837 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22180758 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22184392 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22178419 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22178225 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22173462 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22185700 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22178763 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22176257 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22177215 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22179065 - 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22173505 - Unknown (Buy and sell trader) (Got an add)

As you can see for yourself, 7.44 sales are much less than 7.33.

Tf2 finance is also saying 7.33 ref http://tf2finance.com/keys/

http://www.trade.tf/ saying 7.22 ref at the moment.

Sales at 7.33 and sellers at 7.33 are much higher than any other prices.

Just putting it out.

Makes the Mods think ;)

Hahaha... True true :P

Why did you double post this same links? o.o

Idk.......

Meh. Not sure how you cherry pick your proof but I have been selling keys for 7.44+ very easily.

http://i.imgur.com/NUNpEby.png (22 keys total, 15 of them sold in a time span of 30 minutes for 7.44 each)

From your 7.33 proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21551753 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21058028 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22066541 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21697013 - same seller as #2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21594265 - selling for 7.44 and buying for 7.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22207555 7.22 - instalsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22202221 - 7.44 sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22139782 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21652612 Selling for 2.44 Bought 4 for 2.33 - bullshit prices

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19355367 - selling for 7.44, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21989884 - selling for 7.44, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22205853 - selling for 7.44, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22204075 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22203154 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21944604 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22088791 - keybot buying for 7.33, no keys in stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21777710 - 7.44, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22202169 - 2 keys, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22201046 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22200553 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22200236 - valid, poorly bumped,

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22199335 - not tradable ffs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22198984 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22198926 - 1 key, instasold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21490988 - bot, buying for 7.33 selling for 7.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21874377 - valid (?), has some in backpack but says 0 in his notes

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21765265 - valid (?), has some in backpack but says 0 in his notes

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22197782 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22191437 - valid, poorly bumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22191654 - not tradable again

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21884117 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22181374 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22058614 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22180027 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22179723 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22184620 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22167305 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22186971 7.22 - 1 key, instasold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22185654 - valid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22186459 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22184840 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20922247 - bot, buying for 7.33 selling for 7.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22190424 7.22 - instasold all his stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22189719 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18517593 - bot, offline

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22153698 - 7.44, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22143335 - valid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22193342 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18592261 - same as: trade/18517593

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22194498 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22185204 - no price set

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22052491 - buying for 7.33, selling for 7.44, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21275833 - bot, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21610746 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22186524 - crappy bot, offline, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21965365 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22173327 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22090491 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22177427 - 1 key, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22194198 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21941547 - sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21897124 - selling for 7.44, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21661761 - selling for 7.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20293270 - bot, 7.33, sold out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20658285 - empty dispenser.tf bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22177044 7.00 - instasold

Most of the sellers were selling a single key and they sold it pretty quickly. There are multiple bots buying for 7.33 ref right now. (e.g. bots.tf can buy 300+).

While 7.33 is happening, 7.44 is happening in large quantities as well. Current range is fine.

As far as I know, tf2 finance and trade.tf have never been wrong about current ongoing price. 7.44 is not happening a lot actually compared to 7.33 ref. Look at my proof above. I provided the "last 10 hours" of trades that have been done and all I found was bunch of 7.33 ref sellers and 7.33 ref sales. 7.33 is occurring way too much than any other price, well at the moment at least. Both tf2 finance and trade.tf are confirming that as well. Things might change later but it looks like at the moment 7.33 ref seems to be dominating even though they sell fast.

Also, backpack.tf is not after what sales fast and what doesn't. Backpack.tf is after most common trading point. Keys will sell above and below price all the time and nobody can deny that.

I don't know how trade.tf and tf2f gets their numbers so I'm not going to judge that.

I'm still waiting for convincing proof that 7.44+ is happening in smaller quantities. I have already posted my own valid counter-proof which is not based on assumptions.

Hmm... Seems reasonable. I will post a whole new "last 10 hours" again and will see what exactly is happening the most. Last time I posted that, I couldn't find much outside 7.33, all I could find are 7.33 sales or sellers.

Also anything in classifieds for 7.33 and below sells instantly.

And I just sold 8 for 7.55 each http://i.imgur.com/9Dm8UK4.png

Also, restocking my 7.44 easily at 7.11, sold 2 at 7.44.

I have not had problems selling above 7.33 (my solds from yesterday, adds are from classifieds listings)

http://i.imgur.com/U9ehNCy.png?1 1 at 8 ref (i am just as confused as you)

http://i.imgur.com/35auoxz.png?1 3 at 7.55

http://i.imgur.com/3C2K9SC.png?1 6 at 7.44

I want the value of keys to crash and burn as much as anyone, it is just still possible to sell at above 7.33

Sold 4 more at 7.44

http://i.imgur.com/N4BOwSk.png?1

Sold another at 7.44

http://i.imgur.com/HEPJwBV.png?1

Sold 2 more at 7.44

http://i.imgur.com/njHsdN8.png?1

Listed some on the classifieds, sold 2 more at 7.44

http://i.imgur.com/28m27ks.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/HJJzpHp.png?1

EDIT:

I Sold 3 more

http://i.imgur.com/oaE3NBt.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/pugf2X8.png?1

EDIT:

When looking for 7.33 keys to find (they sell fast, gotta camp tf2op) found a dude who sold 2 at 7.44, check his bp

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22235309

This guy claims to have sold 15 (keys in trade have change inventory and has a pile of ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22222230

I am back with 10 more sold

http://i.imgur.com/isfru6h.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/KpFNmAW.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/IZOrcg3.png?1

EDIT: Sold 2 more

http://i.imgur.com/qbTx22z.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/BmIG2ht.png?1

Being possible =/= most commonly trading point.

Still, i sold 15 above 7.33 in under 24 hours, current range is fine

Your 15 keys compared to that large number of 7.33 sellers.

Hmm.

I have now sold 34 keys at 7.44 ref or more in under 24 hours. 7.44 is very easy and it is increasingly difficult to buy at 7.33

agreed, I'm finding it harder to get my hands on 7.33.

↑The Keys Will Rise Again↑ ?

Dare to dream

If you can link some of 7.33 sellers that did not already sell that would be nice (i am definitely not going to add them and resell for profit)

For anyone leaving proof at 7.55 or higher .. it doesn't matter ; the question here is does the supply @ 7.33 outweight the 7.44 supply; EVERYTHING else is an outlier. With every item that's priced; there's outliers - be it at 1 or 2 scrap higher or lower. They do not count; bp.tf focuses on the majority.

~~Owns 49, price manipulation~~

Detailed and basically an avalanche of proof, upvot

Trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21991492 on the list, is my trade, and it has been getting quite a lot of interest... 2 or 3 trades a day, not 'unsold for 3 days' Because, I am buying AND selling keys, meaning my stock, limited it may be, doesn't run out.

http://imgur.com/QTGYZnI

also, almost all of the 'unsold' trades are bots, with large stock, meaning they haven't sold ALL of their stock.

He just have 2 suggestions accepted. Come on guys, let's go help him!

go little lostjedi! go and makes us proud! upvote

Just stop commenting useless comment, please.

Not happy with this? Bring counter-proof instead of whining like a kid here.

So let the key price become outdate is a good idea, right?

k. Not going to take this further with you.

3 days outdated? wow that made sense, the game here is, whoever's key suggestion gets accepted is a boss, and you're the common player, also idc about other opinions about this, this is my personal one. Feel free to dislike it

peace.

@theguynextdoor backpack.tf just lists the current prices for TF2 items. The votes are decided by the community, so if suggestions pass, it means that the majority of voters think that the price should be updated. In this world, majority rules.

You didn't get upset when keys prices were goin' up every 3 days :v

BTW your personal opinion is racist and so wrong, hahaha

Good proof, upvote! :D

http://i.imgur.com/V9jhptM.png ; been buying these for a while at 7.33 , will start posting proof regularly now.

http://i.imgur.com/6FwgAns.png 2 from yesterday

http://i.imgur.com/KymiZOD.png 4 more from just now

http://i.imgur.com/3Dvc3iv.png boop, 4 more today.

http://i.imgur.com/rw1ob9o.png boop, 9 more.

http://i.imgur.com/9r2DHaU.png 1 more.

Our bots are buying at 7.33, and selling at 7.55 with no problem. All those 7.33 sellers are welcome to trade with us if they have trouble finding buyers.

Looking at the classifieds, there are plenty of 7.44s.

7.33-7.44 is the most accurate range for now, there's no need to change it. In fact, it seems to me like they're beginning to rise again.

Please stop making unnecessary suggestions.

This, so much this.

If you look at the classifieds, you notice that they are being dominated by a few people selling multiple keys at the same price. Therefore, the classifieds don't necessarily classify in this scenario.

I would also like to point out that something that Mr. Giang said in this thread that "Being possible =/= most common trading point"

"For example, if there are a 100 sales at 1.33 and 1 at 1.66, you wouldn't price it at 1.66 flat even if 1.33 sells in an hour." - polar

EDIT: Just checked tf2 finance and trade.tf, both sites are in concurrence that 7.33 is the best price for keys. Those sites tend not to be wrong.

I would have to agree with this, the number of keys i can sell at 7.44 vastly exceeds the number i can purchase at 7.33. I am getting no more adds of people selling at 7.33 and i have to camp outpost just to get a couple keys at 7.33. even then, half the time, i am beaten (7.33 keys often sell in less than one minute after bump)

7.33 is a very common price, but i have been selling keys for 7.44 and have gotten 4 adds for the keys just today so i think that the 7.33-7.44 price range seems to be working

And how long did/does it take you to sell your keys?

it varies from none to 5 a day, I generally run out of inventory before the day is over, but i'd say I could probably sell a consistent 3-4 a day assuming that I keep bumping every half-hour, which I tend to be fairly lax on

just sold 2 more, then ran out of stock today, speaking of which if you guys are selling at 7.33 like you say the price should be, please feel free to sell to me and send me a trade offer at http://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=105380076&token=MMjtlxBn

Pretty sure advertising your trades here is against the rules. Or was that for making a suggestion and only be showing your trade?

7.33 seems to sell a bit *too* quickly, I got 7 trade offers for a key in less than 30 seconds of posting. There are plenty of bots buying at this price as well.

7.44 may not be quite as common, but I wouldn't call it an outlier either at this point. In my experience, it's harder to find/buy keys at 7.33 than it is to sell them at 7.44.

The current range still seems very accurate (in my experience, at least), so I'm going to have to downvote this.

I would not think that 7.33 "sells too quickly" when the bulk of the key sales (and the links) is at the 7.33 range.

Keep in mind that the price should reflect bot sales as well, most of the links @ 7.33 are individual sellers with a much lower volume.

I suggest you look at the links I am providing above every 10 hours or so.

why hasn't the suggestion been accepted/closed yet? its been open for 2 days, by the time it may be accepted, alot of the evidence gets old, and the situation may have changed....

ok but shouldn't it be practically impossible to sell at 7,44ref to justify removing it from range? Just asking don't bite my head off please. Not sure yet about this one

No, as long as there is proof that 7.33 is the most commonly traded point, of course you will have sales at 7.44 and you'll definitely see sales at 7.22 or lower, there's no doubt about it.

sure I get that I'm just not so sure 7,44 can be taken as such. I had a key up for 7,55 just for the hell of it.Changed it to 7,44 and in seconds got 3 offers. Accepted one and removed the listing. It seems to me you have to be pretty lucky to get a key at 7,33 this days.

maybe that's just my shitty luck though :)

Could you please support proof to back up your claim? I would also like to reaffirm bb Der Handler's statement that 7.33 is the most commonly traded point. 7.44 is possible, no one is denying that, but it is not nearly as common as 7.33 refined is.

http://i.imgur.com/qUBR55y.jpg

Sorry I just realized I left out the date and the buyer. If you need me to make a new screen I can do that and add other two offers too. If I go only by the proof added I'm totally with you but I can't ignore my own experience.

I've found recently it nearly impossible to get keys at 7.33 and extremly hard at to obtain at 7,44 too. I found a seller for 7.33 who put up the trade on outpost and it was sold within the minute. The Great Key drop it over

Sold 6 keys yesterday total for 7.44 each very quickly after updating my outpost trade.

Where is your proof?

You want proof? Here it is. http://i.imgur.com/41qyncp.png

More proof. Sold in 2 minutes after acquiring them.

http://i.gyazo.com/d926a44c5eed76834f22bdc39a648039.png

I like how people before used to bitch about keys going up. Now it's the other way around. WHAT WILL MAKE YOU PEOPLE HAPPY?!

Anywho, upvote.

Because it's taken so long to accept this suggestion, it seems that 7.44 is once again becoming just as viable as 7.33. If you look at the classifieds now, there are only a couple for 7.33, even though it was almost a full page just a few days ago.

Your proof is good, but I'm going to have to downvote as it's become outdated.

It becomes outdated because this suggestion's still not accepted.

That is exactly what I said in my post, so I have to ask: What's the point of yours?

it is just so hard to obtain some keys with 7.33...,

I have seen several selling at 7.22 on trade servers and have bought quite a few at 7.33. Just my comment on this.

I'm about to go to sleep :/

But if i remember ill post a screenshot where i sold 10 keys for 7.44-7.55(cant remember which) each yesterday on the 26th august

scrap.tf sells keys for 7.44 and they are all sold out. If that does not tell you anything then nothing will. This suggestion will probably be closed just like other suggestion to drop keys to 7.22 - 7.33. If something still sells for a price then why remove it from the range? The only reason to drop them to 7.33 flat would be if 7.44 was not longer possible which is obviously still very possible and the whole fact that they can sell for more then 7.44 should tell you something.

Edit: I put a key up for 7.44 to test the market and it sold in less then 7 minutes on outpost.

Bots don't count as proof, only support.

Like I said on the last part I put one up for trade for 7.44 and it sold in minutes.

ah. Sorry.

I have to agree. Every seller at 7.33 is either sold out or will be sold out within 1-5 minutes of bumping on outpost. I put a single key on the classifieds 2 days ago at 7.44 and had 3 separate people (in addition to others) willing to buy the bulk of my keys

You need proof of sale, otherwise, we can't really believe you. Besides, as I have commented to others, it does not necessarily matter how quickly 7.33 sells, but rather that is is a more common trading point that 7.44 refined is.

Wow, seriously, backpack.tf is very biased when it comes to key price suggestions.

Note to staff:

I think you (backpack.tf) feel guilty for the rise of key prices happened 1-2 years ago, and now you're trying to make up for it. This is not good. When the keys were going down (rather inexplicably), it took you only a few hours to accept the suggestions. But it has already taken you 3 days to close this one. Please don't linger this any longer, and don't manipulate the market. All evidence suggests that the current range is more accurate than this suggestion.

no, you are. He has counter-evidence, and the proof in the suggestion is outdated.

backpack.tf is a website - it doesn't have feelings :)

my guess is the reason why this is still open is precisely because the market may be stabilizing. rushing one way or another would not be wise.

earlier it was claimed that finance was at 7.33 and trade.tf at 7.22

now finance is at 7.37 and trade.tf is at 7.33. keys have also gone up substantially on the community market. i for one think it's a good idea to wait when you may have reached a pivot in the trends.

Market prices have been like that for quite some time now.

you missed the boat then :)

Because people who make suggestions work for backpack.tf

I've never gotten any compensation for my 220+ accepted suggestions.

(sarcasm)

It wasn't easily apparent in your original post.

Yeah it's a problem sweeping the internet

I feel for you

There is no bias towards suggestion, nor it is "feeling guilty" about the rise of key prices. The vast amount of keys available at 7.33 far outweighs the keys available for 7.44, to the point that 7.44 is looking to be a hard sell. And even if there are 7.44 sales, they are only being ticked off at 2 and 3 at a time.

The only people that are manipulating the market is the traders themselves. Traders have become jittery since the effect series were posted on crates, the bread boxes altering the worth of a craft hat, and a whole list of other variables. Right now, there is that anticipation that the bottom has not been reached yet, so if traders have the option of buying a key, they will be looking to the least expensive option there is.

And if we are going about the manipulation aspect, the only people who are really worried are the ones that have upwards of about 200 keys or more. Naturally, they will protest against the price of keys dropping, for you have people worried about a $20-$50 drop in their backpack value. They are the ones who will be most vocal against it, since they don't want their precious backpack dropping one cent more.

Nobody gives two shits about the price of keys except for key traders, people that can't afford keys, and people that commonly exchange between metal and keys.

The last group prefers them to be lower because it's easier, not because of keys being unaffordable. This is coming from someone who, in the past five months, has been in both the second and third groups and passed them both by.

By the time someone's amassed 200 keys (or 200 keys' worth of BP value), they should be aware of the fact that bp.tf has nothing to do with the actual price of keys, they just report them. Nobody in the past three suggestions has been "protesting" the drop in key prices. Some have made jokes about it, but that's about it. You only see a shitstorm when the prices go up because people that haven't been around long enough to know how backpack.tf works complain. These people also tend to fit into the second group, sometimes the third.

Kind of far fetched to think that "nobody" cares about the price of keys, because they basically act as pure payments, something that most traders, including unusual traders, want of an item.

And here, you are off topic. I was responding towards ocu's assessment that there was bias applied with the suggestion, when ample proof was applied, and commented on "manipulation" when there was none to begin with.

And it's not true that there is no shitstorm when a suggestion for lowering an item is suggested. THIS SUGGESTION IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. The reason why there are so many hidden comments against the people saying that they have sold for higher is because they do not bother to show proof in their claims that they have sold for 7.44 or higher, saying that "It's so hard to find keys at 7.33" without proving it.

Except that an unusual for 15 keys before is 15 keys now. The price of keys has no relevance to the cost of unusuals (or items) relative to keys. Strange Bonk Boys have been 4 keys for the past five months. Through the massive inflation in the price and the massive deflation, it NEVER changed. Items over a key are priced relative to keys, NOT ref. Unless you're trying to buy a Strange Bonk Boy with 29.33 ref (instead of 33.33 ref), the price of keys relative to it really doesn't have much relevance to the issue, because it has and does cost 4 keys.

And maybe you're not aware of what a shitstorm (or, for that matter, "protesting") is, but it's not people talking about what they've sold with no proof. Those are people arguing against it based on their experiences (like damned near every suggestion has), not a shitstorm or a protest. I don't know if you only started looking at key suggestions when the prices started dropping, but the comments section used to be filled with accusations, flaming, shitposting, and all sorts of stuff like that. It used to be a full time job for the mods every time someone posted a key suggestion to warn and hide posts that were nothing but bitching about the price of keys. I don't see how you can compare people not providing screenshots of their trades with people having to be warned for accusing backpack.tf of being run by greedy traders manipulating key prices.

Heck, I remember the first time keys went to 7 ref. There was a post on the Skial forums insisting that backpack.tf existed solely to manipulate prices for the traders running it, and a lot of comments in the suggestion (and the ones since) have followed that same line of thought ("STOP RAISING THE PRICE OF KEYS OMG" and "They're going to hide this post, but I don't care because blah blah greedy traders blah" were common in every key price increase suggestion). Nobody has accused the mods of that in any of the previous suggestions for lowering the price. The only accusation of it is from TWP, who doesn't like the fact that the mods are taking too long (in his view) to accept this and that they were manipulating the price before when they were raising it.

I was here when Long218 was spamming key suggestions and was bad mouthing anyone who did not think like him, and the huge debacle that happened when he was busted for knowingly buying carded keys, so I am quite aware of what a shitstorm is.

The reason why this suggestion is being largely debated is because you have people saying that they have sold for more (whilst providing no evidence), and suddenly there are sellers on Outpost trying to sell for a scrap or two higher because two or three little birdies said they could and did not provide evidence on this suggestion (which is not wise on such a volatile item). Unless these sellers can prove that they have sold a key at X price by posting evidence, the argument they provide is invalid.

You don't provide evidence that keys you were selling at X price, you should be called out for it. As it should be.

OR that's the way the market's going. Keys are going back up now that the panic is done. Believe it or not, not every trader's actions are dictated by the comments in a key suggestion. In case you didn't notice, the number of people in the classifieds selling for 7.33 has dropped from 10 to 2 simply because keys are on the rise again. Furthermore, the claim is doubly nonsensical because the first Husky, Thank You Based Gabe, and imFree, the first three people to post that they sold at 7.44, provided proof in their original posts.

Also, there are... what? 3 people saying they sold for 7.44 and haven't provided proof? 4? The vast majority of counterproof is actual counterproof or else valid arguments against the drop (such as scrap.tf being sold out of keys).

And, again, people stating their experiences on the price of items without proof is common to many suggestions and almost ALL commonly traded item suggestions. Look at the last accepted price suggestion for Uncraftable ToD tickets.

so sold 8 more keys at 7.44 ref just today, posted today, sold today, then I ran out of keys and still got 2 more adds for keys, trust me... 7.44 is still selling great in my experience

Proof, please.

Good proof! I found a lot selling for 7 ref and 7.11 so definitely needs drop :)

where are these people selling for 7 and 7.11 ref??

everyone i find selling for that sells out within seconds because its an extreme quicksale

because.. im the one whos stealing them

also, whats with the dislikes? i dint mean to harm anyone?

its ok bro i get dislikes too, i think they mad cause we have evidence that contradicts theirs.

i mean, honestly i'm having trouble finding keys for 7.33 before someone else nabs the deal

You haven't provided any proof in your posts, man. Your argument is completely invalid.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22267144#latest there, 24 keys sold at 7.44 ref in the past 2 days

I'm just saying, I recently bought a couple keys for 7.11 quite easily:

http://prntscr.com/4h4ock

http://prntscr.com/4h4ozo

Not sure if this will help at all, but meh...

Those are 2 and 3 days old, when this suggestion was made some people thought it would go down further and started selling for those prices. If you find anyone selling for 7.11, that's a quicksell. But 7.22, or even 7.33 is a quicksell now.

Where is the basis of your proof to say that 7.33 is a quicksale though? You have none. It is clear given the proof that 7.33 is the most common trading point for these keys.

EDIT: Knavesmith, in this thread, brought up a good point.

"Sales will always occur outside of the backpack.tf price in both directions. When it comes to currency suggestions, we want to price it at the most commonly traded price

"While 7.33 may sell rather quickly, it's, like you said, steadily available and the most commonly traded at price.

7.44, while does happen sometimes, does not happen as much as 7.33 does.

7.33 seems to be the most commonly traded price at the moment."

Trust me, when you make over 1500 trades per day, you know what is a quicksale, and what is not. My words come from experience and observation. There are even some bots out there buying for 7.44 . In fact, someone should make a 7.44 suggestion in a few days, in order to represent an accurate price.

If that's not enough, here's your proof:

http://tf2finance.com - 7.4

http://trade.tf - 7.38 web

Classifieds: Only 1 7.33, from 21 hours ago. Rest are 7.44 and 7.55

Outpost: Way more 7.44, and 7.55s than 7.33

Bots:

scrap.tf - Buy 7.22 - Sell 7.44, starving

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ocuTradeNetwork Buy 7.33 - Sell 7.55, very few keys in stock

http://bots.tf/ - Buy 7.33 - Sell 7.55, very few keys in stock

http://shopbot.tf - Buy 7.44 - Sell 7.66

There.

I see three valid 7.44 proofs in the Classifieds as of right now, as the rest are 10 hours old or higher. Trade.tf says 7.33 refined. Again, it doesn't matter how fast 7.33 sells because it is a great deal more common than 7.44 is.

Also, bots do not necessarily count as good proof.

We saw it coming, and the proof is sufficient for 7.33... upvote.

Could some Mods close this or accept this? THis is really old ._.

Its only been 3 days.

The other times the drops were suggested, it was clear-cut. The only thing that stopped suggestions from happening earlier was the cooldown. In this case, not so much. People have provided quite a bit of counter-proof showing that 7.44 is still possible. I think the mods wanted to wait a while to see if the price drop speed was decreasing, keys were stabilizing, or the market was turning around. I think we're starting to see that it's the third.

Now that there's a fine piece a' work. -Red Engineer

I don't really want to bother with looking up proof, and I don't care that much either way, but I had 6 keys and put up a listing last night for them at 7.44, and I got 5 trade offers and one add when I came back from my shower. all but one offer was for the price I said (7.44 each) and one offer was for 5 of the keys, and so was the add (I sold to the add). I'll admit it's slower on outpost in my experience, as I had them listed for a day on there, but at least for bp.tf 7.44 doesn't go unsold as long as you're online.

You need proof to back up your claim, sir.

I sold 12 for 7.44 each

That's not proof. You need screenshots of the trade.

Sorry, I don't take screenshots of any trades. I wasn't aware when selling that I would be making a claim about it a day later.

Sold one key for 7.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21629697#latest

Show us any proof it actually got sold ? I dont see anything here. only mass seller.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/crazymonkey601/inventoryhistory/

FIRST trade on aug 27

Nobody can access your steam trade history other than yourself.

Please take screenshots as how told here on the guide

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/11525-what-a-good-inventory-screenshot-looks-like/

I have a question, Is the price for keys in the Mann co. Store gonna go down too?

Nope, just the refined suggested price

backpack.tf has no affiliation as an official Valve site. No action here has any carry over into the Mann Co. Store.

Also, everyone chill with the dislikes, him asking a question that he didn't know the answer to is how he and everyone else learns, don't bash him for it.

Why hasnt this been approved yet? If say close it and have mr. Giang open a new one with his original suggestion of 7.22-7.33

so says the guy with 1 key and 470 ref.... just trying to get what you want...

Actually i buy mad cards. I dont need keys lol. My profit actual money. :D

.... http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22212413 you weren't only buying cards 2 days ago.

It would not make cents for mr. Giang to open another one for 7.22-7.33 because it would be just be closed. This suggestion also won't get accepted because of counter proof and the fact that people and bots buy for 7.44 and up. inb4 haters downvote my comment...

The only upvotes on this suggestion are from blind upvoters who are poor and just want keys to be cheaper.

The blind upvotes also come from the people who have not tried selling at 7.44. I tired selling at 7.44 and it sold quickly.

7.33 is even a hard buy at this point.

Let's be fair: When this suggestion was first made, 7.33 was a reasonable key price. Not long after that, though, prices started going up again. It has valid upvotes from when it was made, just that it's not entirely valid anymore.

good suggestion is good evidence

Seems very hard to buy at 7.33 - these seem to be quicksells

tf2finance is showing a slight upward trend and is hovering at 7.38 (exactly 7.33-7.44) http://puu.sh/bc3zU/d8ff327c9a.png

trade.tf price changed from 7.22 to 7.33 and lists 7.44 for websellers.

i'm only mentioning these metrics because they were mentioned earlier as proof of 7.33 or lower but have since gone up. also there's been a ton of counterproof posted showing 7.44 sales happening at a healthy rate.

i think we may be seeing a plateau in the key price and the panic selling done.

you clearly didn't actually read most of the suggestion.

Mr. Giang is my new favourite guy!

Soon keys will go down to a price were I won't say "fuck that!" :v

Bein' serious now, more than enought proofs, upvoted.