Suggestion: Arcana Killer Exclusive at 1330–1520 keys

Price Suggestion

~2500 keys

arcana

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This suggestion was closed Tue, 26 Aug 14 12:56:48 +0000 by the submitter.

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updating to include screens

There's no actual proof in here. Links please.

Besides, assuming we do the actual math...

(40 + (Harvest Hetman is outdated, would need a suggestion for this to pass) 3.4 + 2.6 + ~~5.8~~ (robo-pickel would need a mini-suggestion) 4 + (Aces Scout Shako is unpriced, estimating but would need a suggestion for this to pass) 1.5) * 0.9 = 46.29.

46.29 + ~7.6 buds of cash = 53.89 rounding to 54.

So nowhere near your suggested range.

The Veil price is correct and in-date, you merely overpaid.

EDIT: It's even less than that. You said Robo Pickel I thought you meant RA. Yours was actually GE, you had a B/O of 4 buds.

I'll send through screenies of the trades and a paypal payment.

"The Veil price is correct and in-date, you merely overpaid."

Yeah that's it though, this is the issue with the way things get priced.... you don't value them at what I paid for them as the owner but the price of what outpost tells you....I valued that Veil highly, as is evident from what I paid for it / had to pay for it to get it..... that is how should be valued... If I put in a price suggestion at the time with what I paid then it's outpost price would be at the price I paid which was 57 buds.

This cost me 57 + 10 + 8 buds which ='s 75 buds and there's many previous offers on these that top these in previous trades, I felt the outpost price seemed pretty low considering what I paid and the history of offers on it.

It doesn't matter what YOU value it at, we have proof it's worth 40. Opinions have no part in suggesting prices.

If you put in a suggestion now at 57 buds on the veil, it would be declared an outlier based on current B/Os and previous sales. Because it is.

Opinions from most recent owners and sellers have every part in suggesting prices.

So your now saying you have the vote of the community by claiming it would be declared an outlier based on current B/Os and previous sales. Pretty sure they all have no b.os and most recent sales involved me with proof on what they bought / sold for.

Think I'm wrong? Make a suggestion for the veil. Go ahead. I dare you.

You dare me, I don't need to prove anything to you or try to convince this community on what I value this item at.

Simple science of TF2 rarity trading is that a item is valued at what the current owners value them at,I've shown proof of what I value it at by my trades to purchase it, this is what it's true value is... what i value it at, in which i have shown proof you choose to dismiss it.

Yes you do. That's the entire point.

If you can't prove it or convince the community you have NOTHING.

I did with screenshots, what evidence am i missing?

An actual price for most of the items in your suggestion.

You can value your hat at whatever you want, your choice. Unfortunately, price suggestions are based on what the community thinks its worth and I don't think anyone agrees with your "true value".

Also, a range of 70-80 buds based on one sale? You must be a magician.

20 Minutes and still no proof of any kind.

Get proof, or close this.

Where is the proof?

updating to include screens

No proof, no link or screen shot. How about no.

How bout just get the screenshots first before making a suggesion?

Heyas, looking to update the price on the Arcana K.E. I just paid A Beams Veil + Harvest Moon Hetmans + Stormy Jefe + 1 of 1 G Energy Robo Pickle + Aces High Scout Shako + $260USD... Monkey from TF2-T can confirm.

The beams Veil cost me 57 proof below:

Beams Veil 57 + 10ish + 8 = 75 buds

Beams Veil + Harvest Moon Hetmans cost me a G Energy Mohawk

G Energy Mohawk cost me: 60 buds

PS BOA = 40 buds

Hearts Gibus = 28 buds

I had 8 buds returned

I can get proof of offers from outpost of Scorching K.E owners been interested in adding for this hat

I think my suggestion is fair and reasonable. Thanks

Hope it's clear and I didn't confuse anyone :/

Trade history links / pp payment

http://imgur.com/mSXFzqr

http://imgur.com/LCHp2oC,Q1XoNQc

http://imgur.com/LCHp2oC,Q1XoNQc#1

Every1 is so jumpy, i'm a noob to this price suggestion thing.. go easy on me please and let me know what I need to update... I'm not trying to force an update just trying to specify what this cost me. Thanks.

As proven by myself above, your maths (and range) is completely incorrect.

As proven above your theory is flawed on how you value items.

How I value items is how THIS ENTIRE WEBSITE values items. YOU are the flawed one, I'm afraid.

That's my point I'm trying to get across, like I said before if I had put in the suggestions for the Veil previously then how you value it now would be different... you value things on prices, hardly ever up to date, i listed screenies on what it cost me but because it's not listed on backpack.tf you choose to ignore it.

Put a suggestion in for the veil then. As I said, it will be rejected because it's an extraneous value.

If you have an issue with the way things are run here, that's not an issue with me. I'm just telling you -the rules-

Guys give him a break, it's his first suggestion.. All of us messed up on our first few suggestions too.

My first suggestion passed.

Know why? Because I read the rules first.