Suggestion: Poisoned Shadows Brotherhood of Arms at 561–595 keys

Price Suggestion

~600 keys

shadow

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This suggestion was accepted Mon, 15 Sep 14 04:50:56 +0000 by polar.

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Is amazingly overpriced XD

OUTPOST OVERVIEW:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21301479 B/O of 35 (1 month)

SALES:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2734972790,30066,5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20747462 Sold for:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53fb2ab62f822bf7648b4a5b EOF KE (20) http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2716752540,538,5

Sunbeams Scout Shako (Unpriced, mini at 8.5) http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2466628119,30326,5

C.Bubbles Cold Killer (Unpriced, mini at 6) http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2540818806,981,5

Smoking Minnesota Slick (Unpriced, mini ato 2) http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2464477353,30315,5

(20 + 8.5 + 6 + 2) * 0.9 = 32.85 (rounding to 33)

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Sunbeams Shako mini:

Never been traded outside of the trade included here. So, using a combination of B/Os and offers.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22184591 Offered UC Vintage Lugermorph (9) + 15 keys pure (~0.8)

(9 * 0.9) + 0.8 = 8.9. However current seller has a B/O of 8 pure.

Evidently it was offered on the OTHER Shako, here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22125905 + 20 keys, putting the offer around 9.

Using 8-9 on the Shako.

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C.bubbles Killer mini:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22125905 Sold for Burning Pith (~6.7)

6.7 * 0.9 = 6.03 (rounding to 6)

Histories:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2904818854,981,5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2904265088,439,5

Only recent sale. Using 6.

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Smoking Minnesota mini:

Again, the BroHood transaction is the only trade this item's ever been involved in.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22125905 Current owner has apparently been offered 2 pure for it.

Previous owner got no notable offers. (Also at one point had a B/O of 10. And I laughed and laughed and laughed...)

It's shaky, but I'm using 2.

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Due to the amount of variables involved here, dropping conservatively using the current B/O on the market.

Let it ride.

So u make a pricevote for only 1 sale? Wow! So if i sell any of my unus for 2 keys, i also can make a new suggestion with 2 keys?

Btw: 1 offer last week is a burning bonk boy (33,5) + scorching hound dog (5,5) * 0,9 Item overpay = 35,1 ->so why high end is 35? I think he only do the suggestion to buy the unu for cheap!

I have 410 accepted suggestions and you accuse me of manipulation? HA!

I think, moreover, you're the one trying to manipulate this, seeing as you own one.

If you have an offer of 35 (probably lower, I doubt that Bonk Boy is clean) then that's extra evidence for this range.

Well done for shooting yourself in the foot and making yourself look silly at the same time.

1. yes, i think u wanna manipulate a bit cause u do the suggestion only for 1 trade - isn't the rule that u need at least 2 sales?!? Cause than i also will do a suggestion after every bought/sold unusual (cause i only need my sale/buy as proof, and than i also have around 100 accepted suggs in 1-2 months!

And why are the 410 accepted suggestions a proof that u not manipulate? maybe u only do it smart, and i am the only who know :P

2. the offers on the brotherhood are higher than 35 (38,8 in unus), the clean bonk boy + hound dog was the last (but also low offer), just to tell u that your price suggestion is wrong

No, you're wrong. YOU'RE the manipulator because you OWN ONE and don't want to see your precious backpack value drop.

You only need two sales to price an UNPRICED unusual, this is NOT UNPRICED.

None of your offers actually exceed this range after overpay, you're overpricing every single one.

Continue on this route and prepare to be reported for manipulation.

Ok, u will see a lot of accepted suggs soon on my profile. Yes, its right that i own one, and i not want that a wrong suggestion drop the price, cause the offers are higher and the value also. And to let you know: the burning bonk boy is clean of course - may u realize now that the boa is worth more than u want to make with your wrong suggestion!

This false suggestion should be rejected cause it only would make a falsification of the price in reslut

Look at this trade to see the bonk boy offer (its pretty los - but even higher than your suggestion range). He disslined the offer cause its very low (№.小穷鬼 offered it)

Find a sale on this item who's value exceeds 35. I dare you.

It is a rare hat, its not sold every day... The offers are exceeds 35. In Pure the 1 guy would quicksell for 35 pure. In unusuals every offer below 43 is dislined immidiatelly - and not much guys can afford that amount, so the offers are not hundrets a day.

1 month ago it was also a offer of sulphurous tc + lantern phantom (44 buds together) - there are a lot of good offers (38+) but all will be diclined cause its to less for such a great brotherhood

Both those unusuals are outdated, anyone who priced that offer at 35+ is an idiot.

u can make mini-suggs - i am sure u can manipulate these suggs as much like this and than all my offers are less than 10 (new suggestion: burning bonk boy 9 buds)

If you want to make counter-evidence, you have to provide the mini-suggestions. I, am not obliged to.

Also just like to point out the Sulph. TC and the Lantern Phantom, offered by Alpina c6, are both duped. So that's not even valid evidence ANYWAY <3

So your arguing that 35.1 breaks his high end of 35. I also dont believe burning bonk boy is worth that much. Burning is losing value and there are 7+ burning bonk's on outpost. That equals price/value erosion. If you dont have a higher offer than that then this suggestion should pass. How much did you pay for yours? If it was more than 35 then that will break the high end. Further more, 1 transaction is all that is needed to price a rare unpriced hat much less one that is already price. We could multiply 35 by 1.1 to accommodate overpay since that seller has a "pure" bo of 35.

I payed 45 in unus. The bonk boy is worth that much (it is a clean one, the most on outpost are duped - duped goes for 25pure, clean for much more). And u relly wanna take a price of a b/o from a guy who wanna sell his unu very quick?

Why don't you post what hats you paid to counter this suggestion. Also, The pure b/o of 35 has been up for a month and no one has told him they were gathering. If the hats could easily get over 45 in unusuals than an investor would have picked it up. There are plenty out there who could do it. Is anyone even offering 25 - 30 pure to at least tempt him?

The offer with the Bonk boy is over 30 pure (Bonk boy gets offered from 30 Pure which the owner counted as "low") and this offer also include an scorching hound dog (also worth some pure)... So yes!

I meant on this PS Boa;

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21301479

Why no one says they are gathering or at least lowball him with offer of 30 pure. There are plenty who would do that if they felt they could make good on it.

Also, you could counter with your purchase. Just place it here with screenshots of the trade.

does the high end come from b/o?

Yes. Refer to my addendum :3

btw y did u not use the sale between the dreamer and dzot? :o

perhaps you checked it but found a b/o of 35 which is 1month old and used it as high end? :D

I saw the dzot sale, it would involve me doing four more mini-suggestions if I were to use it ;_;

But seriously, that sale came to about 22 after overpay, it's an outlier based on current offers on the market.

That's okay if the B/O is less than it's normal price

If the only sale is 33 there's no reason to use a b/o to set the high end.

Resuggest with 33 flat imo

As theguynextdoor as stated, it's mere conservativism. There's a LOT of variables involved in the sale, it would be unreasonable to use that as the only people of evidence.

As I explained in the suggestion :3

Yep, I read that. If you aren't comfortable with the PC then you shouldn't post it tbh.

If the one has a b/o of 35, and you offered 33 pure, don't you think they would accept it?

Using your argument to set the high end doesn't fly on any other hat, I don't see why this should be anything different.

It's flown several times before. MANY times before.

It's called a conservative drop. They are a thing.

If a B/O on the market is below the current range, it's acceptable evidence.

One already got offer of Burning Bonk Boy 33.5 and Scotching Hot Dogger 4.5 atleast, so its 33.5+4.5=38 and it was rejected because considered too low. Also setting price of 35 looking only on someone B/O is weird. In my opinion Price range should be higher.

Thank you for your attention :)

You're on syber's friends list. I KNEW there was someone else in on it, that's why I'm getting -2 instead of -1 on all my posts.

You're both committing manipulation, which is a bannable offence.

That offer has no overpay, it's actually 38 * 0.9 = 34.2. PERFECTLY mid-range, thankyou for the extra evidence.

I not called him to do something here! And does he not hae any information rights only cause he is in my friend's list? thats rasism, u know! I know that u not like me, but thats no reason to be awful to other guys! U are not a nice guy!

He also have the right to write what he want, and if he thinks the brotherhood is worth much, its his opinion and u should respect that!

For real: i don't know what an edjucation u have to suffer

Racism? Oh god this is hilarious

U say some guys are worth less (at least her posts) cause they unfortunately are in a friend list of someone else - how do you call that? its discrimination or rasism, depends on the reason

It's a hilarious attempt at defending manipulation, that's what it is.

They are just some mention of some independent players who think that the suggestion is wrong and the unusual is worth more. but u dont want to admit the truth

Nope, I'm afraid you're wrong. Too bad <3

I was taking this seriously, but now your attempts are getting too pathetic for me to do anything but laugh.

I'm waiting on those suggestions from you, by the way <3

1st thing: Im not giving you "dislikes" on your comments, if you want i can proof it and give you some extras :3 and i dont undestand why you are so mean. Anyway, suggesting price by B/O is not ok. I'll not comment more because I dont have enough time for that. Thank you for your attention and good luck to you and syberrufus :P

btw, if you think taht being on someones friendlist is for manipulations is weird. I have him added because i was offering on his other unusual. Take care <3

Sure, sure.

Using B/O to drop a price is fine. Take it from me, and my experience <3

Oh my goodness you're so rude lol. sorry for spam.

I don't like being this way, but the only type of reasoning some people listen to is when you're on the offensive :/

Ah, well good luck with your suggestion, eh, I own this beautiful hat, but i wish you the best of luck on getting this approved :P

If there are no transactions that are close to current range this should be accepted. Otherwise just resuggest based on the one sale and leave out the 35 as that seems generous. 35 is quicksale price but its been up too long unless someone has stated they are gathering.