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This needs a drop.
Thanks for the help, Kollin!
~Sellers~
http://prntscr.com/4hqwv3
2.4 Keys x1
2.67 Keys x1
3 Keys x4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22316593 2 Keys + 6 Ref. Equals = 2.81 Keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22041723 Unsold at 3 Keys for 1 week.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22275635 2 Keys + 3 ref. Equals = 2.4 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22283333 2 Keys + 7 Ref. Equals = 2.95 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262407 3 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22063803 3 Keys
http://bazaar.tf/trade/975715 3 Keys
http://bazaar.tf/trade/972963 3 Keys
~Solds~
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22264020 3 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22313214 2 Keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21645554 1 Key.
Trade.tf says they are worth 2.77 Keys http://prntscr.com/4hr95m
You're Welcome. If this isn't enough then I can find some more.
Also, there is barely a page on Outpost.
^True. + We are a team now so fear us bp.tf
Hehe :D
you need more proof of 2 keys .. not just one sold for 2 keys ... and 2 keys was quicksell
I will help gather some more proof.
The 2 key sale was painted TS also, massive QS. Not convinced until you get new proof.
Like I said, Me and Procave will gather more proof. We are on it right now. We just need time. Thanks :D
you should gather the proof before making the suggestion
I tried to vote but it said that there were too many positive votes....
Sorry but I disagree with your proof.
~Sellers~
http://prntscr.com/4hqwv3
2.4 Keys x1 ~ Young listing.
2.67 Keys x1 ~Young listing.
3 Keys x4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22316593 2 Keys + 6 Ref. Equals = 2.81 Keys.
Young trade.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22041723 Unsold at 3 Keys for 1 week.
Has in fact sold. Check his backpack.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22275635 2 Keys + 3 ref. Equals = 2.4 Keys
Same seller as the 1st bp.tf lister.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22283333 2 Keys + 7 Ref. Equals = 2.95 Keys
Trade closed.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22262407 3 Keys
Umbumped trade. (Inactive.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22063803 3 Keys
Unbumped trade. (Inactive.)
http://bazaar.tf/trade/975715 3 Keys
Unbumped trade. (Inactive.)
http://bazaar.tf/trade/972963 3 Keys
Unbumped trade. (Inactive.)
~Solds~
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22264020 3 Keys
Sold within 3 days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22313214 2 Keys.
Painted. 1 day quicksell.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21645554 1 Key.
Unearthing such an artifact is a miracle in itself but ancient trades are not allowed to be used as proof sorry.
Trade.tf says they are worth 2.77 Keys http://prntscr.com/4hr95m
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You have no proof of 2 keys. Your only 2 key seller was one which painted a high-tier paint and was quicksold. Your unsolds at 3 keys are unbumped and old as well.
May I also add that 2 of the 3 key sellers on bp.tf appears to have sold (at time of posting). Thanks for reading. :)
you are funny , #1 how can you proof that the 2 key seller was a quicksell #2 Unbumped trades = Gave up selling / forgot the trade #3 how are you gonna proof anything & you may want to convince kollin , he made this suggestion with me and he found most of the proof.
it sold instantly, look at the time it was opened and closed
I am merely pointing out the flaws in your suggestion. Sorry if I have angered you in any way. If you are wise you will take on board my explanations for my reasoning and hopefully be able to apply this new-found knowledge to future suggestions.
#1 how can you proof that the 2 key seller was a quicksell
Well as Blaze said above me, the item was sold instantly. An instantaneous sale is called a 'quicksell'. You can check this by identifying when the trade was opened (first put on public display) and when it was closed (the item has sold). So instead of choosing to wait a few more days and successfully selling the item at a potential 3.5 keys (has a high-tiered paint applied), the trader decided to list the item at 2 keys and obtain some quick 'pure' within a few hours.
#2 Unbumped trades = Gave up selling / forgot the trade
Both theories you have concocted here are possible in these scenarios but assumptions cannot be confirmed without the subject's agreement. Thus we must use logical deduction to identify the most probable case in each scenario. When you give up selling, you are shutting down all attempts to sell the product. Giving up does not mean to let an idle advertisement run in the background.* Thus in terms of Outpost and Bazaar, giving up on selling the item would mean closing the trade. The most probable out of your two assumptions however would be that the trader "forgot the trade". However, by forgetting the trade, the trader will forget to bump their trade. Thus it will get dragged into older pages of Outpost history. This means that it receives less attention and thus customers. By having less attention, it cannot be compared with trades that are bumped more often thus gathering more attention by being in the front pages of Outpost more often.** Therefore it cannot be used as verified, legitimate proof.
*E.g. If Honda "gave up selling" a particular car model, would they let advertisements continue running; directed at the general public? Or would they leave all instances of that car model in their stores? The answer to both cases would no. Honda would remove all advertisements of their 'failed' car and take the car models away from their stores. This is the true meaning of giving up selling a product.
**E.g. When you search for "Name Tags" on Outpost, how often do you click on pages 18, 19 and 20? Rarely. Also, what pages do you click on? Most likely 1, 2 and 3. What page do you first see/ is redirected to? Page 1.
#3 how are you gonna proof anything & you may want to convince kollin , he made this suggestion with me and he found most of the proof.
Everyone makes mistakes. Even Kollin. However much you idiolise Kollin and his suggestions, it is only human to make mistakes. So I am not sure if you are insulting me or not but a no-namer in Backpack.tf (like me) can know stuff as well. Not only Kollin. It appears you are accusing me of being a know-it-all; making up lies to cover up what you assume is my 'stupidity'. Let me assure you that I am not such a stuck-up brat. I know what I am talking about and I know how this site functions. I advise you to take heed of what I am saying and learn some common knowledge/logic before accusing others of being ignorant. In fact, if I were to be honest, I would say you were the one acting like a know-it-all or maybe your faith in Kollin is too great for anyone or anything to undermine.
Those are my thoughts and once again, I am sorry if I have brought out your inner rage monster. :D
That's a lot of text.
TL; DR
#7 Instantly sold, therefore quicksell
#2 Gave up selling = Close trade. Why waste precious outpost trades? Forgot the trade = At the back of trades, so no one sees it.
$3 I don't even know. Srry.
One thing though. There aren't many of these so if you were truly looking to buy it, the forgotten trades probably would get checked anyways. Of course, you wouldn't see it on the home page of outpost, but still.
Haha. That's a nice brief synopsis. Ignore #3, I really didn't get what he was trying to point out and I don't get what I was trying to state either but I understood as much that he/she thought I wasn't very well educated on suggestions. Also that they admire Kollin. :)
(I don't know if it's just me but I tend to not add people from older trades unless the deal is really good. Because they have forgotten about the trade, I often get blocked when I attempt to contact them.)
Just because Kollin is your 'partner' does not guarantee an accepted suggestion.
I were selling for 3 keys for 2 weeks:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21883278
Then gave up and relisted for 2 keys 5 ref for 1 week (I changed to 2 keys 6.33 right before I closed it. Proof is I was selling for 2.67 keys = 2 keys 5 ref)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22142013
Then relisted again for 2 keys 3 ref and were selling for 2 days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22275635
I closed it when I sold it to a buyer for 17.66 ref:
http://imgur.com/1paEl2h
Even though I was way too impatient, I too think this needs a drop. BUT, unsure about the proof for 2 keys
You're basing off the low-end from 1 sold that was painted and sold quickly.
Maybe also respect the counter-proof that is given to you from people such as the person below.
Downvote because the low-end is based off a painted item and quicksell.
http://i.imgur.com/At6LIG2.png?1 ?
more proof at 2 would be nice