Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 7.44 ref

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I knew this was gonna happen

I got chats like this: http://i.imgur.com/TFZvFfW.png?1

But I got trades like these (just now): http://gyazo.com/55c2d7c33488ca03b277db0f88172434

I've had my listing for 8 ref keys for ~2 weeks. I knew it would happen eventually

Obvious Upvote

...This is what I came up with for the last 10 hours on the market.

Solds at 7.44 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22396358

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22394525

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22394243 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22394068 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22393544 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22393218

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22392019 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22391475 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22391375 --> x4+

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22390934 --> x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22390810 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22390759

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22391240

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22389273

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22389207 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22387750 --> x5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22387610

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22387598 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22385584

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22385184 --> x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22384703

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22384403

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22384086

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22383912

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22383729

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22386548 --> x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22394525

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22386441

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10250715 --> x2

http://www.trade.tf/trade/480760620

http://www.trade.tf/trade/480765558

Soldsa above 7.44 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22394143 --> 7.55 ref x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22392287 --> 7.55 ref x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22391119 --> 7.55 ref x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22390558 --> 7.55 ref x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22390544 --> 7.55 ref x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22388057 --> 7.55 ref x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22395962 --> 7.55 ref

http://www.trade.tf/trade/480765079 --> 7.55 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22392517 --> 7.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22385429 --> 7.66 ref

it's happening....i knew this will happen.. i knew it...

its gonna rise more than ever before

I've sold quite some keys at 7.66 over the past week

HELPING OUT THIS SUGGESTION : http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5405b8a84dd7b80f638b4602

CLOSING CLOSING CLOSING CLOSING CLOSING CLOSING CLOSING CLOSING CLOSING

Could you guys cut the shit and stop spamming?!

Don't get hardscoped spamming this suggestion guys, think before you post.

On topic: I've noticed this happening. The reason for the drops were because of the bread boxes, and panic sellers. With no more bread boxes, no more use for ref again. Keys were always the way to go.

Yeah breadboxes made a good ref sink for once unlike all other ref sink attempts. Valve should try to implement better working ideas like that other than new craft hats for craft 1-100s. A re-do of the Cosmetic strangifiers with 3 ref and 3 stranges each would be nice too, that really sparked the market on both lower tier stranges and a fair ref sink.

7.33 is definately hard to find past 2 days or so, ones that show up on classifieds get sold near instantly.

Been trying to buy keys for 7.33, no luck

7.33 is still possible, but very rarely. Very hard to find a seller selling for 7.33 (unless you're lucky). Even so, 7.33 sells instantly, within a few seconds. There are many buyers out there for 7.44. Sometimes 7.44 sellers are pretty hard to find too, but more common (compared to 7.33); even 7.44 sells pretty fast at times too.

This seems low. I quicksold 1 key for 7,66 when I asked for 7,55 (only using classifieds).

Proof pls.

http://i.imgur.com/27qkWx2.png

Happy now?

Danke, now if everybody would just do that instead of spamming, "sold 5 for 7.22, downvote," These key suggestions will go a lot smoother.

downvote. really easy to buy keys for 7.22-7.33 ref

Do you have proof of this?

really easy ? hahaha

Hmm, tf2finance shows 7.37. That puts it in the middle of the current range. DOWNVOTE. Also, you own 20 now.

Hey admins, the like button is broken.

20 is nothing, these are keys

I feel poor. You just said $50 in virtual pixels is nothing.

20 keys is closer to $37-$38

and sorry I guess, but it isn't much to me.

Him owning 20 has nothing to do with this suggestion.

I am aware what it states, should have mentioned that, anyways it rounds to 7.44 sir.

Could you explain how does it round to 7.44? 7.37 is closer to 7.33 than what it is to 7.44, isn't it?

upvote, keys are going up again >:(

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22071987 - buying 7.55

Ah, thank you for posting it. ^-^

I'm not against the price change, but I would just like to point out that 7.37 rounds to 7.33 not 7.44

kidding..., i don't want the keys go up again, but leave it, you'r making it worse

Making it worse? I am trying to make the proof accurate.

The fact that my comment which tells nothing but the truth is at -2 votes really shows that people on this website still just vote on these things to suit what they want, not what the market is actually paying right now.

do you even care about the likes and dislikes? people here vote for someone saying " i sold one key for 11.33 refs upvote" not even showing proofs.and how does 7.37 round to 7.33 not 7.44

First off, I'd like to agree. I'm not sure why people are so vehemently against someone pointing out a rounding error, but that's the trading community for you. Secondly, at the moment it's 7.34: http://i.imgur.com/gkymJ7X.png

Round that to 7.44 and I'll laugh at you.

Don't get me wrong, the rest of the proof is good. But that little bit of simple maths really niggled on my mind.

Buyers @ 7.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22186960

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20697481

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19533678

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22384809

not enough proof, downvote

It's the "key goin' down" season, don't destroy that momment of joy of mine -_-

Downvoted for no good reason but my own greedy, feel free to warn me, cleverpun! BRING IT ON!!!

hahahahaha me too

i sold 2 keys at 7.55 in less than 1m 30 secondes, really 1 minutes (And 5 / 6 people added me about this key)

Proof plz..

You can just come here and say "I sold.." or else I would be like

"I sold 50 keys for 1.00 so the new price must now change to 1.00!"

Wow keep calm, i never said "iam sellin this at this price so yolo new sugest" i just saw the suggest and people talk about this, and trying to help with what i got ! hope this 2 sold will help !

http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=396337key755proof0129.png

Feel free to post proof. Helps move suggestion along.

Love the dislike guys. Truth hurts. I know.

proof?

When I added my key to classfieds for 7.44 ref, I got 6 adds in less than 10 seconds lol

I knew there was going to be a point when keys would stop lowering a price, anyways, upvote from me.

Sold one for 7.55 in an instant, these need a raise.

I love how these types of comments get upvotes, despite the utter lack of proof. Meanwhile comments that are actually "SMART" get downvoted and hidden.

Oh the hell with it. These suggestions just piss me off anyway. I'm ignoring key prices.

We all knew this was coming. Now the mass buying begins as people try to "invest" in keys.

Looks like a lot of proof to me, and as some of the comments are saying 7.44 sells quickly too, you've got an upvote from me.

keys finally rising?

Some more proof (from my end)

SOLD 3 at 7.66 - http://gyazo.com/eb970fa31ea905cfc68af0d850771892

SOLD at 7.66 - http://gyazo.com/82831da737509dbd4fcc70cc433bb9e5

BOUGHT 2 at 7.22 - http://gyazo.com/f794deeaca3abfcda4422d8745316fbd

SOLD 2 at 7.55 - http://gyazo.com/ffb2c83b95530e764fb96419dee30299

SOLD at 7.33 - http://gyazo.com/f1ea46ef2055d455a8f6e1d71fd5d7ec

SOLD 4 more at 7.44 - http://gyazo.com/75a5f13ab384175ccdcfa75c23326312

BOUGHT 4 at 7 - http://gyazo.com/bddd5633fcef0a1fd468500292e277d9 (This was not a bot, btw.)

I'm staying neutral on this for now, but those have been some of my key - ref transactions recently. Hopefully this helps some of the other voters :)

Impressive amount of proof. Well... I think we all knew that the keys prise rising will happen again one day.

Also, one more little proof: bots from bots.tf buying/selling for 7.44/7.66 respectively, and ATM all bots almost solds out. So, people willing to pay even 7.66 for keys.

And scrap.tf (buying for 7.22, selling for 7.44) already out of keys stock.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/17902-buying-tf2-keys-744-ref-each/ - Another buyer at 7,44

With so many buyers I'd say 7,44 doesn't belong to the range. Also none on classieds at 7,44. Scrap.tf is out of keys at 7,44. 'Nuff said.

Anything below 7.55 is a quicksell now. Sad but true.

It's nuts, my trade is in that list for selling and I sold 41 in a day @ 7.66. I bought 35 @ 7.33 and 7.44. Anyone know why the sudden increase in prices?

http://i.imgur.com/Tk5ZSeg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bZZXxkd.jpg

Easy upvote.

Edit: On second thought 7,44ref might be even too low

Support from me.

Solds @ 7.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20958541

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22272839 Sold 22+

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22267144 25 Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22285841

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22291188

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21857826

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22267144

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22286954

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22223417

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22171496

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22293764

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22031885

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22308481

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22318478

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22318349

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22318205

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22318076

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22317805

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22317696

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22317401

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22316439

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22316424

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22316416

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22316370

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22316139

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22315969

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22315855

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22315543

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22315149

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22315025

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22314458

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22314339

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22314226

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22313020

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22312724

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22311515

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22310996

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22310263

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22310049

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22309242

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22308724

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22308675

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22308481

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22308009

Selling =/= Solds @ 7.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22297445 Bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21346417 Bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21669329 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21293308

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20706335

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22229740 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20646204 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21635767

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22306408

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21485471 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22093081

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22305680

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22047711 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22299873

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22205940

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22287212

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22217544

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21860869 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22233938 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22281666 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21594265 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21993705 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21966552

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22282139

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21497931

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21892481 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21490988 Bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22303438

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22104836 Bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21890901 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22301948

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22011121 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22196841

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21892534 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22298174

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22211350 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22308481

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20958541 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22318579

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22318283

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22317828

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22316164

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22315859

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22315538 Sold Out

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22313438

http://bazaar.tf/trade/985455

http://bazaar.tf/trade/956563

http://bazaar.tf/trade/972197

http://bazaar.tf/trade/967405

http://bazaar.tf/trade/982318

http://bazaar.tf/trade/973500

http://bazaar.tf/trade/966821

http://bazaar.tf/trade/977339

http://bazaar.tf/trade/976894

http://bazaar.tf/trade/975118

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10247002

I was unable to buy a key for 7.33 Ref for a week, Upvote.

While I feel that there can be a better range, there is a lot of good proof. Upvote

Should have bought keys. On the more serious note keys are getting harder to buy for anything less than 7.44-7.55 I agree with the price bump.

7.44 is a quicksell already. Downvote.

http://tf2finance.com/keys/ its 7,33Ref now.

i posted a key on outpost for 7.44. got 3 adds in 2 seconds, sold instantly. i'd upvote this and even say go higher.

You should downvote this and wait/create another suggestion. Keys are selling around 7.55-7.66 now. Sold around 10 for 8 ref...

Its not about what sells and what doesn't. Its about what is selling the most. I wanted to put 7.55 ref in the range but I couldn't find reasonable amount of sales to put it at the range.

Buying keys at 7.11 yeahyay! upvote though lol

Back to square one

Keys rising

7.44 is the most commonly traded price atm

Upvote from me

I had to buy 15 for 7.55 since there was none for 7.33 or 7.44, upvote.

If this gets approved i call BS. The guy before this suggestion had at least 3 times the amount of evidence for it to drop and this a point im raising to the mods.

Yes but his proof became outdated very quickly. Look at the market for 8 seconds- it's black and white that keys are rising, and quick.

don't worry it won't get accepted

Plax is gonna resuggest as soon as there's enough sales made at 7,55 :)

good proof upvote

7.44 might even be too low.

I've a feeling by the time this suggestion gets accepted, keys would've already been sold for more and it would actually be lower because of all the people seeing the suggestion; sellers highballing their prices, buyers see the suggestion and begin freaking out and start to quickly buy more keys, in fear of them rising even more.

I will quote myself...

"Its not about what sells and what doesn't. Its about what is selling the most. I wanted to put 7.55 ref in the range but I couldn't find reasonable amount of sales to put it in the range." Even though it seems low, it is being traded around the most, making it the most common trading point.

its impossible to find keys at 7.44 though.

None of the sites indicate anything towards 7.55 though. I already have another update available, yet again I found lots of 7.44 sales and few at 7.55.

fair enough, i believe in you knowing what your doing, ive just been trying to find a single sale for 10 mins now and nothing :P 7.33 goes in seconds. literally

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22396280 - sold in less than 2 mins

Yeah, I myself wanted to push up to 7.55 but I can't and couldn't find just enough buyers and sales at 7.55 ref. 7.44 is the most common trading price.

Yup. Im afraid keys are going up. The highballers are back. The great Bread-Key Crash of 2014 is over.

What happened? we waited to for a long time trying to drop them to 7.33 but admins kept on closing suggestions because they knew someday someone will actually do a raise the keys suggestion....

Upvote - trying to buy 17 keys for 7.55 and its impossible. i think even 7.44-7.55 would be better!

Read 3 posts above you. I wanted that range but there just isn't enough sales going on at 7.55 at the moment.

7.37 actually rounds to 7.33

I think the keys should go for 7.22-7.33

I am thinking of re-suggesting at 7.44 - 7.55 ref. We will see in another 8 hours where the markets points at.

But Halloween is still ever so far away, I don't see why they're rising.

Anyway, just last week I managed to sell 1 key for 7.33 instantly with like 5 trade offers in the first 2 minutes.

Best of luck on your suggestion though.

Bought 6 yesterday at 7.44 and fighting for them because they are like a quicksell right now...

~~omg he haazzzz 20 killl him with~~

iz on zeh rise again

nice proof

I come back again with a nice proof, I'm far to be an expert in trading, but i think this suggest should be accepted since at least 2 days

I sold now a key for 7.66 on classifieds, in less than 5 minutes 3 people added + One trade offer

Screenshot :) http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=703942key766.png 7.66 are now a quicksell, and 7.44 a EXTRA QS ! its stupid to sell it at .44 since you can got .66 in 2 minutes more .. ( Dont tried but i'm sure i can get more than.66 x))

Upvote Good Proof

Not exactly definitive but I found a seller within a minute

http://i.imgur.com/Zoe2RAv.jpg

and here is the results from my watch list of sellers at 7.11 - 1 as recently as 4 hours ago (I know 'removed listing' doesn't exactly PROVE sold but it's a good indication these are still going for cheaper than 7.44)

http://i.imgur.com/kLUieRh.png

even scrap.tf sells out at 7.44, upboat :) http://imgur.com/15kmisT