Suggestion: Haunted Gothic Guise at 0.66 ref

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~25.44 ref

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This suggestion was closed Wed, 17 Sep 14 19:45:47 +0000 by A Distinctive Lack of Vincent.

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Excuse my last suggestion, I inputted the wrong price suggestion.

The last price suggestion for 1.66 that went through was complete BS - Someone took a picture of them selling one successfully for a high price, and that's the only evidence they had was a picture of a sold one in their trade history. How was this accepted?

On bazaar.tf, there isn't a single buyer. Meanwhile...

http://bazaar.tf/trade/964827 -> Been trying to sell for 3 weeks for bp.tf price AKA .66

http://bazaar.tf/trade/93713 -> Hasn't gotten an offer for his guise for quite some time

http://bazaar.tf/trade/990981 -> Took over a week to sell for .66, sold when bp.tf raised price to 1.66 for .66

Welp, I likst JUST bought one for 1.66

And about your proof:

http://bazaar.tf/trade/964827 I added that guy, he never accepted

http://bazaar.tf/trade/93713 is over a year old, so I guess thats outdated,

http://bazaar.tf/trade/990981 Has sold

Since we want to go by one item vague proofs, I can vouch that it took over a week to sell mine for .66. It sold when bp.tf raised the price to 1.66 for .66.

Make it a range then? 066 - 1.66

Would that be too big of a price range do you think? I still remain heavily unconvinced about the 1.66 sold. I could easily go sell some item with no market for double the price if given enough time and leg twisting.

0.66 is incorrect given that it is selling on the SCM for basically 2 ref. Current price is fine.

http://bazaar.tf/trade/93713 invalid as an unsold, not set price, looking for offers

http://bazaar.tf/trade/964827 this is sold, don't know when, but probably long gone?

Previous accepted suggestion that has only a vague picture. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5410b528ba8d88460e8b459d

Red flags: Doesn't show environment in which it was sold, doesn't say how long it took to sold, could be sharking, could be an alt. Way too vague of a suggestion to be accepted.

The last suggestion was neither of those. It was a legitimate sale

Doesn't say how long it took him to sell. Doesn't confirm if it's an alt or not either. And since when do we go by one sale suggestions like this? I could go sell some haunted items to some unknowing noob for a high price, post one being sold on here, and the price changes.

We need to go by what the actual market says. Personally, I've been selling this item for a very long time, I had it up for over a week and it sold at soon as bp.tf price changed it to 1.66. Something is wrong here.

We go by 1 sale when the market is very small.

The evidence provided in the last suggestion is too vague like I pointed out. There is some market for this item, although it is very small. I think my evidence is much stronger than the previous suggestor by a long shot.

Only 2 on outpost, and just as recluse pointed out, 9/10 people aren't aware of bazaars existence

Doesn't matter if people aren't aware of bazaars existence, it is a large trading website regardless. Doesn't mean the evidence is weaker or stronger IMO. And again, the previous evidence didn't even show if it was from bazaar or outpost, didn't show how long it took to sell, and we cannot even confirm if it was a shark/alt account.

Well given the person who bought it already disproved your proof I think its safe to say its not an alt

They bought it as soon as backpack.tf switched price to 1.66, which means that backpack.tf has a large impact on small items and items in general. He bought it to make a quick profit if he could. But again, it took me over a week and it NEVER sold for .66 when the bp.tf price was .66.

The market of yesterday does not necessarily mean that the market is the same today. Halloween hype has already begun to take hold and many Haunted items and even Unique Halloween items are jumping in response to the limited market. I do like how you contradicted yourself about bazaar though. Your proof is either very old or already sold.

And it is selling for ~$0.50 on the SCM. http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Haunted%20Gothic%20Guise

Current price is fine for now.

You have yet to prove why the other proof (1.66) was accepted with a simple picture, with all the red flags I pointed out. I'd like someone to respond to the issues I pointed out. You can easily say my proof is old and vague, well the previous proof that was accepted was even more vague.

Because it was a legitimate sale. If you actually looked before you posted, you would see that both accounts are legitimate traders. This market is incredibly small and one sale coupled with the current price on the SCM (which wasn't noted in the suggestion, but I'm sure the mods looked into it) is enough proof that the current price of 0.66 was incorrect.

Once again, "Doesn't show environment in which it was sold, doesn't say how long it took to sold, could be sharking, could be an alt. Way too vague of a suggestion to be accepted."

We found out they were legit traders, but there are still many other red flags.

Doesn't show environment in which it was sold

If you mean outpost, bazaar, etc, that is kind of redundant with a screen capture of the sale.

Doesn't say how long it took to sold

That doesn't matter. He has the date on which it was sold.

Could be sharking

Between 2 experienced traders? Sure, that seems likely.

Could be an alt

Already addressed this above.

The length of time it takes to sell matters very much.

In a rare market? Not really. A sale is a sale. It would be different if this was a commonly traded item. If there was counterproof against his price, then time would be a factor, but the SCM was enough supporting proof for the suggestion to pass.

As I said, it took me over a week to sell it for .66. There seem to be a number of sellers, but no buyers.

Lets face it, a week on bazaar is not the same as a week on outpost or even the backpack.tf classifieds for that matter. I love bazaar, but there isn't much activity there as it has become kind of a dump and forget website. Your trade got less than 26 views in a little over a week. Outpost trades can get that in a day. So while you keep saying that bazaar = outpost in terms of selling, it really isn't.

It didn't get any views because no one was interested in it. It only sold because backpack.tf decided to raise the price by a ref suddenly.

Arguing the reason for the view count is a moot point. The SCM contradicts you and this suggestion isn't going to pass.

"I love bazaar, but there isn't much activity there as it has become kind of a dump and forget website. Your trade got less than 26 views in a little over a week. "

"Your trade got less than 26 views in a little over a week." then you say "Arguing the reason for the view count is a moot point. "

The ignorance is rather strong. You make a point, I rebuttled, you ran out of arguments so you go to the "your point isn't valid anyway." Please learn how bazaar and view counts works before making a comment to me.

Arguing the view count with you is a moot point since I will say it is because of the lack of active users on bazaar while you will say that is was a lack of interest by bazaar's user base. That is why it is a moot point, not because the fact that 26 views is nothing, which it really is. I tried to help you, but you seem too stubborn to realize any of it.

I think I speak for everyone who isn't banned on Outpost when I say "What the hell is bazaar.tf?"

a 10x better website that doesn't have "buying unusualz 90%!!!!!!! off, price is firmzz every1 who offers me a decent deal will be reported!11!" idiots. and no, I'm not banned on op

I have confirmed this rock to be angry <3

yup, true :3

I think I speak for everyone who uses Bazaar, why would you go back?

So I don't have to put up with that one guy who spams auctions all over the place.

Bazaar is shit proof.

Slow down, you almost convinced me with those opinions there

Yeah ok mate.

bp.tf price is 1.66 at the moment so what makes you say he's selling at 2 rec?

Its #HalloweenHype, you dont ask questions.

Yeah, next time I won't make a suggestion like this. I'll do some leg work, sell a halloween item for double its price, post a picture of my trade history of selling just one and...profit!

That's true; if you manage to sell at double the item price you should definitely make a price suggestion. But maybe with a range if there's sellers for lower

Additional proof:

Unsolds:

(http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22440603 Sells these three for 1 key)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22620495 Unsold for 1.66 since 12 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22594318 wants bp.tf price

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22585941 ???

Solds:

Didn't find anything on outpost

Classifieds: http://i.imgur.com/yZdzY3R.png?1

And I have the same opinion as Teemo "The last price suggestion for 1.66 that went through was complete BS - Someone took a picture of them selling one successfully for a high price, and that's the only evidence they had was a picture of a sold one in their trade history. How was this accepted? "

Upboat!

2nd link quicksold and the 3rd and 4th have never been bumped

I didn't checked back since I made the comment, you are fully right here :/

As in the comments, using bazaar alone is problematic- it's just not active enough.

Further provided in the comments: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22620495 Successfully sold for 1.66 ref, countering suggested price.

Closing.