Suggestion: Orbiting Planets Deep Cover Operator at 52.7 keys

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~21 keys

o.plnts

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Solds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22560111 <-- Sold for a g. fetti anger ~ 3.4 buds x 0.9 = 3.1 buds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21701543 <-- Sold for a slaughter knife FN csgo so will not count price

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21261762 <-- Sold for miami tyrantium + 1 bud worth of csgo stuff ~ 3buds or less seeing as new suggestion at 2 for the tyrantium

Price will be 3.1 buds based off first sale as the other two are abit unstable to price involving csgo stuff

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22659918 - Has a 4 Buds offer , any thoughts ?

One offer would not really change the pricing as mostly based on sales

Well when it's above the suggested price I think that it should matter since it was rejected too.

It is a 4 bud pure offer but hard to determine the legitimacy of the offer if he does not take it although it does seem the dco can be higher. However, 3 sales based around 3.1 buds (only 3 sales) should be enough proof and he does not have many better offers atm. Also, 3.1 is most accurate atm, pricing cannot be based on offers but offers can assist pricing or help either ends. If he ends up selling for higher then counter price or i can change the pricing.

you only have 2 sales, as you are disregarding the counterstrike sale, even though the knife itself was worth $350. http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/730/%E2%98%85%20StatTrak%E2%84%A2%20Flip%20Knife%20%7C%20Slaughter%20%28Minimal%20Wear%29 keep in mind, this is for minimal wear, not factory new, a significant difference in price. "Evidence must not be cherry-picked. If an item is easily selling at a price outside of your suggested range at the current time, you should seriously reconsider if your suggestion is valid. Your suggestion might end up being closed if wiser users opposing your suggestion point out a list of active trades well out of the range you suggested." you're skipping out on some of my biggest offers, you arent even regarding my offer of 4 pure.

also, you say "~ 3buds or less seeing as new suggestion at 2 for the tyrantium" you can't use current market prices on an old trade, is that not against backpack.tf suggestion rules? 2 months ago, when it was sold, the tyrantium was worth 4.7-5.3 buds, plus the bud worth of counterstrike items.

Looks good since market price for the knife on market avg. the price of 3-3.1 Upvoted

hi, owner of the hat currently. why not count the time it was sold for the knife? its worth at least $300USD currently, and was $350 when it was sold. when i sold for the anger, he overpaid because he wanted the anger, i wasnt too keen on getting this hat, but he wouldnt stop offering for it. also, I have 2 current offers of 8.5-9 in gen one, a previous offer of 8 in gen one, and a previous offer of 6 in gen 1, as well as a current offer of 4 pure. I dont think its fair to disregard my offers, especially considering i have more offers than you have sales. I also dont think that it is fair to disregard the fact that it was sold for the expensive knife. furthermore, if you are going to disregard these things, then i dont think it is fair for you to base the price off of just 2 sales. while it is not breaking any rules, i feel in this case that it is not fair, especially when the suggested price undercuts a very recent offer of 4 pure. i appreciate your consideration and your time reading this.

Hey, i understand your concern as this may affect how you sell it but i am pretty sure you offered him the anger, says on his trade post and there were none of him posting on yours. Also, a mini needs to be done on the tyrantium then but the time of sale was less than 2 months ago so its closer to the 2 buds worth it is now. I would take the knife as an outlier unless you sell it for higher than the current range as although the DCO is a multi class, pricing it at 9+ would be pretty high for planets considering similar effects for DCO. Regarding your offers, they seem high but can you provide evidence for them all? Not that i don't believe you but its not really right to base a pricing off offers without proof (although high end/ low end pricing should not be made according to offers at all). If you do sell it for a different price, i will be happy to change the pricing off the Planets DCO or you can use my proof plus your own sale for a new pricing.

its not fair to base a price off of other effects. If you're gonna do that, then take a look at green confetti, its 13. You say the $350 knife is an outlier, but that would make 1/3 of your evidence an outlier, which isn't how outliers work. I think that if you push this price through, its gonna kill the hat, and any offers I have. The fair thing to do would be to wait until I sell it, or wait until more are unboxed, there's not nearly enough evidence to support your claim, in fact there is more evidence against it than for it.

I am not basing off other effects, i am using it as a small aid. G.fetti is also quite decent tier as first gen and many collect the effect. The closest effect should be the second gens e.g. ss, steaming, smoking, nuts. On the previous owner's trade he had it up for quite a while (about 1 month) and your offer was one of the highest there which shows that the knife was most likely an outlier. (There were no visible offers of over 4 buds, closest being the beams sack + 1 bud about a month ago) There are 2 sales at the current range so it seems reasonable, although it is up to a mod to decide as i am still quite newb. Mybe 4 buds might be a better price seeing as you did have a 4 bud pure offer but atm the current pricing seems to be most suitable.

so, you're saying its fine to list the miami tyrants offer from 2 months ago, but you're ignoring the beams sack + 1 pure offer? why is that offer not up there? yeah, there are 2 sales at the current range, but if you're only counting 2 sales, then the one sale of the knife isnt an outlier, it makes up 30% of sales that you are including in your evidence, which is wayyy too much to be an outlier. i dont know how many more times i need to say this, but i the number of current offers i have above 8 outnumber how many sales your have at 3, and that offer of 4 pure should be enough to disband this suggestion. im not saying that you should take my current offers as market price, im saying you should wait until this gets sold so you have solid evidence, which is something you are lacking right now.

It is fine to list the tyrant offer as it sold for that. You cannot make highends of suggestions with offers.

I learnt that when i did that last time and the mod told me to only use sales with backing up proof as offers despite the offers being significantly higher than the sold price

hi, previous owner here. i sold it in a deal for an orbiting fire viewfinder + strange gunsligner, where i valued the viewfinder at 15, and i traded for my searing safe and sound (2) + circling capos (2.5) + p.fetti brain bucket (1.3) + steaming belt (1.5) + the deep cover (was valued at 8.5), and he added sweets. please adjust your sales.

ah, forgot to mention, i didnt require overpay because his offer included the gunslinger, which is something ive been looking for for months.

THe pricing has to be by bp.tf. Feel free to make a new suggestion ill close this one for now but i do not really have time to make one sorry. Goodluck and nice sale!