Suggestion: The Vicar's Vestments at 0.8–1 keys

EDIT: I tried to find solds, Wich did not end succesfully. Trade.tf shows nothing + Couldn't find the old trades on outpost. they might have been traded outside of outpost/bazaar.

You need sales to set a price

I.. did that?

None of those have sold

So im giving it a price so people know that they're buying it for the right price..

It will need a price some day?

No point in setting a price that isn't accurate

And i thought you only needed solds for unusual suggestions, not normal unique, stranges etc's?

You need sales for setting or raising a price

Read the edit, Couldn't find any. Couldn't find one completed trade at trade.tf either.

So then you can't price this

Well, so it's easy as this? : http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54370c8eb98d888f048b4811

1 sold, Not sure how many of those are for sale, but..

This suggestion hasn't been closed yet so let's see..

I will keep it updated and watch those.. as soon as i find a sold ill post it..

If you done research, that item is very rare on the market, very little to none(meaning shorter or one proof is enough). If one sold is enough and no other sales occured, then thats enough proof.

The rules still apply;

You need sales/solds that supports your suggested price that is going higher than the current.

If you cannot find any solds, then theres no point in suggesting a price without any core/strong proof to back it up. You want it price, either wait and watch for a trade that succesfully sold or for another person to suggest with more convincing proof.

Could you change "SALES" to sellers, thatgonna throw a lot of people off. And if you are getting solds, you are going to need two solds since you are suggesting a range.

only if the item has very limited market availability

Solds are needed for everything, unless you are lowering the price of an item; unusuals aren't the only ones they apply to.

"Halloween 2013 item, Can't really get it anymore.."

You're wrong. Yes, you can easily get it from the Mann.Co Store for $7.49 and it is available forever.

just noticed, http://bazaar.tf/trade/978747 = http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22629743

Here's how it works:

To raise the price of an item, there have to be solds, ie buyers agree with the price the sellers laid down.

To lower the price of an item, the inverse is true; there have to be sellers willing to sell their items for a lower amount.

To create a price for an item, solds are definitely needed; solds are essentially proof that the item is capable of being sold for a specific amount, and must be agreeable by buyers + sellers. Prices on backpack.tf are based off of these solds.

Although yes, sellers can be used to set a price; they usually set a lower end for the price of the item.

Thank you for the really good information, But as i mentioned just now is that i couldn't find any solds so far.. might have been traded outside trading sites.

Well, with the awkward amount of trackable sales for this item, I certainly would not have created a price for this. Although it's interesting that this item is getting some notice, without solds, this price is gonna fall apart quick.

No, the sales are more than 2 days old

So if i like suggest a price to go up by like 0.33

And there are still a few prices for that 0.33 less i could still try and suggest?

Okay a simple question:

Everyone is selling it for 0.8-1 key..

But i can't find any solds.. so it might get closed/denied

Is this because it's a rule? or what.. because it's accurate.. You won't find one for lower than 0.8-1 keys

Yes it's because it's a rule for suggestions: http://backpack.tf/help/suggestions

".. because it's accurate.. You won't find one for lower than 0.8-1 keys"

Also, people often sell things for less than they say they are selling them for. If you could price based on people selling things alone, I could just say I wasn't taking less than 50 buds on my 1 of 1 Secret Pencil Pusher and then make a price suggestion for 50 buds on it.

It's because even though people are trying to sell for 0.8-1 key, if none are actually getting sold for that price, then that means no one is willing to pay that price for them. Solds prevent people from suggesting prices that manipulate the price in their favor only, since it does happen.

These 2 links in the proof are for completely different items.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15668625 (Free, if you provide wrap, Wrap = 1 key)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/873048 (Wrap + ref = Key + ref)

And you can still get them from the Mann Co. Store.

I would suggest waiting until one of them actually sells and then attempt to price it.

Thanks for the info.

close this already?

As i said.. Im waiting for sales.. god..

lol, the price you set here....you can't change it, close this and wait for sales, re-suggest when you get real proof

I wonder why it hasn't been closed by any moderators..

because people is teaching you how to suggest here, they finished already, mods are waiting for you to close this, re-suggest when you get real proof please

I just.. want to see the results.. :/

ok good luck waiting for a sale until this gets closed, gonna play bye

WHY IS THIS STILL OPEN (it's rhetorical)

I was thinking the same

Because magic.