Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 9 ref

You mean the one I use for the bottom part of every suggestion? Type this at Google search : "rainbow color html" and you should have quite a few good sites. The beginning ones. The best one is the patorjk (The one I use) from my point of view. If you use that site, make sure to change the "Output Code" to "Standard Forum Code"

Have fun. ^_^

Thx!

It is time #9 On ze road to it now! 😈

this is actually good

you want to know why?

WE CAN DO SIMPLE MATH TO FIGURE OUT PRICES NOW

KEY REF REC SCRAP

1 = 9 = 27 = 81

At least we will have convenience for 3 days.

Key price goes up ref price goes down. Inflation? maybe, the way ref is made and ''crafted'' into something else changes the rules of inflation in a way.

i remember when keys were 6 ref and 6 ref was around $2 now its worth 8.66 ref and that's worth $2.14, you don't need to be a genius that this is a bad sign

Anyway the thing about this is that you have ALOT of proof of this, and the shocking thing keys are raising like crazy.

Upvoted

2.33 days?

thank you sir it is very relieving to see a real key suggestion after all the spam ones

If I stop, do you really think suggestions won't come up? Please. I was actually counter-suggesting this suggestion at the beginning.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/543ba48cb98d8835658b45ad Then the other suggester closed that suggestion himself because mine was more accurate.

If I stop suggesting, there will be just another person taking over my place. ^-^ I don't run the market sir, I am just trying to update the current market price from time to time.

alright , i apologise, i was too pissed at the time and typed crap without thinking :P

Its all good sir/ma'am! ^-^ Good luck buying :)

much proof much vote

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19840199

#neverforget

It was unrealistic then, it might as well be realistic now :P

lol i want to kick everyone right up the ass in that trade

Darn, i was just about to post this :/ Anyways, good proof!

Soon, our beloved keys might reach it's first quadruple digits (10.00 if you know what i mean)

I knew this is coming, but I just sold my key for 8.88 :(

I've easily sold 8 keys for 9 ref, upvote

*clap clap clap clap clap* Nice work!

Because rules are rules.

Not to mention what could happen if Keys got a price jump like that instantly.

Scrap.tf also buys them for 8.77.

~~Insta-yes vote as I saw your name~~

Nice proof you got.

lol when i was selling 1 key for 8.88 ref, i receive about 5 trade offers in 1 min

upboat

Nice proof. If this is accepted, this will be the highest price keys have ever been!

BTW some extra proof, I buy for 8.77 each: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22891843#latest

Nice Proof m8 ( ° ͜ °)

I Upvote

you rule the keys economy

very very good proof upvote!

i think it should be 9 ref! cuz its easier to "count ur metal" and if u get a sick drop which (in my oppinion) happens quite often i think u should pay more for it

Now we can't post keys on outpost properly even with just refs. There simply isn't enough spot to place 9 refs on the right side of the trade...

WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TOO!!!

NOW WE HAVE TO USE THE NOTES SECTION!!!!

Nice proof.

This is sad but true... :'(

you got my upvote

Just sold 5 keys for 8.88 in 2 minutes flat using classifieds. Upvoted

-1

bought plenty at around 8.66 lately. Mostly from outpost.

http://puu.sh/caGDy/bd315ce729.png

http://puu.sh/caGEl/70ea42d1a3.png

http://puu.sh/caGEX/a94f11c9b1.png

http://puu.sh/caGFy/c2b9b6d64a.png

It's not ready for 9 ref. Sadly as I know the backpack.tf moderators don't care about my proof and will accept this suggestion anyway, I will upvote for my reputation and backpack value.

There are HUNDREDS of sellers for 8.66 a day. Perhaps not 100, but certainly more than 20. But they get snatched up so fast nobody can add them as proof.

Just FYI - keys can't go past 10.33 refined without crashing refined. It will become cheaper to buy from the mann co store.

If it was "Not ready" for 9.00 ref, I wouldn't find much sales at 9.00 ref and find tons of many sales at 8.66. Yes, there are many sellers at 8.66 but not enough for it to be considered "most common" anymore. 8.66 - 8.88 ref is not readily available anymore. Hell, you can find sellers at 8.00 ref every now and then but that doesn't mean 8.00 ref should be in the range.

If you are "accusing" me of cherry picking proof indirectly... Feel free to go through my past suggestions. In fact, go through my last accepted key suggestion ( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54351103b98d88a0748b4982 )....I Kept 8.66 in the range while many many people were saying it was easy to sell at 8.77 or 8.88 and even at 9.00 ref, 8.66 should be removed and whatnot.. Why did I kept 8.66 in the range? Because it was still readily available at that time. Now forwarding 4 days, the scenario completely changed. That does not mean you can't get keys below 9.00 ref, of course you can and you have proven that. You can get keys as low as 8.00 ref if you have the patience, like I said...That doesn't mean 8.00 ref should be in the range.

Hope that cleared things up for you. ^_^ If it didn't, we can take this matter here... http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6090-the-one-and-only-key-price-topic/

The fact that they get snatched up so quickly implies that they are a quicksell and should not be in the range.

"keys can't go past 10.33 refined without crashing refined. It will become cheaper to buy from the mann co store."

you're missing the part where refined probably gets a drop (not a huge crashing drop) when keys hit that high so things probably won't crash. and frankly I still wouldn't buy them from the mann co store, I'd rather trade up for the metal with no use of real world money :|

You want to bet? I bet you 10.33 refined keys will never get that high. Can't wait until they crash again.

People have been pushing this price way too hard, keep it at 8.77 for a while, why the sudden need to push for buying and selling at 9 ref?

Because 8.88 ref is a quicksell now.

Keys will go down after halloween.

What crash? At that point most of the traders will most likely migrate to CS:GO.

"key market crashes and you lose all of your money" I doubt the real world value of keys will crash

I'm slightly richer than you and you're complaining? Boo hoo, that's how the market works.

Keys are gonna crash after Halloween, yes. But keys are, sadly, going up because they sell for prices like 9 ref. So... be quiet and enjoy the show for now.

Ya know.. i thought they'd cap at 8.66 but what do i know?

Well we can't just leave keys at 8.66 when people are selling them for 9+ ref.

i'm selling a refined metal at 4 keys, does that mean we can't leave refined metal at 1 ref?

4 - 1 = 3

3 points in a triangle

illuminati confirmed

im high

Get higher, bungee jump off a bridge insteada posting here will ya

It's Plaxorous. He's not out to profit. He's here to update the key market.

Well organized proof.

Upgoat

They're all at 9 ref, upvoat!1111111111

Good proof, hard to find sellers below 9 ref, upvote.

I like the way you proof boy. (lame django reference)

Good proof

Upgoat

We all know this is going to get accepted anyway

Upbloat

:o a suggestion with actually good proof, im so tired of seeing suggestions like "This should be 2 ref cuz i said so" and "This should be 4 buds because u can no longer get this and because it is in my inventory"

As if keys where worth enough as it is dammit...upboat (Yes, purposely said boat)

I agree. 8.88 sells really quickly. Also, our good friends https://scrap.tf/ sell keys for 9 and buy for 8.77.

upvote sold 3 keys for 9.11 for 2 mins fast wow and 4 for 9.00

it's a nice proof, but is really hard buy a key, 9 ref really?

pppfff, what else? 10 ref next week?

2quick4me

Proof is good, upvote.

Unfortunately I need to Up vote xD jk keep the good job and good proofs

I hate for keys to hit this point, but the proof is solid. Upvoting.

you do realize those sells are for profit right? 3 scrap profit

Or 9 ref happens so much it's normal...

selling a key for 9 ref isn't really profiting anything unless you can manage to buy a new key for less and that is extremely difficult now

Unfortunately, opinions cannot change the price.

How am I an ass? I'm just saying that you can't make the price of the item go down by just complaining. Something big has to happen to make keys being less wanted. Just like the LaW update and taunts going into the market.

Even when they were at 8.66 flat I had a hard time buying at 9 ref, should've seen this coming sooner tho.

Upvote for Plaxorous the key overlord.

The market will become more dangerous; for all of us, should this come to pass. Whether or not we agree of it. Yes, to be seen as too soon is not out of the conversation. We shouldn't be surprised of how users will grow in suspicion if they haven't already. Not that this is to be implemented to be wrong; nor should it be expected to be correct. It rather goes beyond wrongs, rights, civil rights maybe; not sure why. Just rights in general I guess. To reflect this, perhaps it is more about how suggestions are made, whom makes them, when, in what range, and especially why. Yes, feel free to criticize the most simple of responses; that's not what we should look for. Same for the complex answers created only to belittle or blur whomever finds them offensive. Makes me want to bring up one situation going on with individuals and some other entities drawn behind the blinds. I can't say the key is fine as it is, to get better or worse is the most true certainty. You could say these word are just from one and only from one, I already know and understand how they will be received until proved otherwise, General selflessness couldn't be more expressed here than any reaction to previous price suggestions some, yet still many of us have seen. Heck, I must be talking in madness, but by all means, ask for a chat with me and maybe I'll introduce you to my language likely valued as meaningless and psychotic.

To Conclude:(OMGawd, this guy's almost done. yay.){Lol now that you're thinking about that, I'd like keep going; for about 10 times the size of this suggestion. >:P}(Aww crap NOOOOOOOO!....lol heck no! just kidding; I got you good though, right?; okay lesson learned, all of us, no seriously, concluding....like RIGHT NOW.

I guess it's only human to consume as it is...wait, wrong audience; wow that was a wrong turn gone right for once, hands down.

But seriously, We all know how clear it is that the following "event(s)" cannot be ignore; oh, and here we are; see? Butterfly effect: DO NOT ATTEMPT ON PURPOSE.....or you might as well divide by an 'O'; not that 'O' or the last one, you get the idea. We're going to see them at 9 indefinitely. Hold on, I'm about to ask myself: 9 WHAT!? What kind of sick mad English is he talking about!? Oh never mind, my bad. I thought I was shipped off to charter school. Okay, and...yep; end of comedy phase...for now. But, yea, be advised for closure of the one-sided conversation of our, oh look, 10 minutes, still at work too; BEST MONDAY EVER. Of course I'm more than willing to do something about what we're dealing with here; behind the suggestion(s), not my frantic joking; sorry guys, we're not all winners, I meant that too. That's precisely what this is all about, sort of. We're all not winners here; we're probably friends too, complete unknowns, new players keep turning up in the game also, this will impact them as much as it does to us, especially when they choose to get involved. The friend hype has been gone likely and long before LoW and any event before that(Remember the Man-conomy). I'd like to see a win:win all around the trading tavern, too bad its just me. Now let me get my cheese cutter cause IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. Hypes, jumps, drops, downfalls, I think, therefore I am's(life/lives), they make and break us. Heck, let them choose us while we choose them. Let's just say no one wins, it's day one, ode to genesis, one for all before day two, the shadows of all for one. I'd like to ask someone if not, few to some and then to most of all, To reflect on days one and two; past, present, future; they can agree and conflict with each other by accident or on purpose. Let us live and remember then and what to do of day three; that's tomorrow. Wow, so soon? What happened before then, you can either tell me, someone else, ask someone, but more importantly, ask yourselves. How did yesterday and today go before you wake up tomorrow? I hope we, them, us, myself and I do something about it.....before it's too late. This statement has changed me; I don't know how much, but I'll tell time to let me know when I'm ready. I hope it changes you; or least gives you a laugh, thought, response, a voice from now. Before I say anything else, I'll just say, I believe. Ask me what I believe in later if you're compelled to(something like that).

Thank you all, them, him, her, someone else or just you.

Goodbye to everyone. I hope you the best of all.

Oh, I'd also like to thank you for time, feedback, consideration, and all of the above.

A special thanks the ones and onlies(only as >1):

G. Miller, L.T. Host, and B. Altano

And if you ever come across them, This statment is their fault! xD lolorly?

Nah, just kidding.

Thank you and have a good day.

tl:dr please

Wait, tl:dr? Yes, I am looking for feedback; I'm starting to get use to writing/typing/comedieateing more causally now. Wait...comedieating is not a real word. I'm gonna write it down in my personal dictionary.

tl:dr is a way of saying I'm too lazy to read all of that please summarize

But yes, This is an almost critically serious review/overview of the suggestion and the effect(s) it'll have whether or not it goes through. The comical lines are just personal perks I had a crave to spit out; I thought they we're a little too delicious but that's why I'm going to eat them later, maybe...just a bite...or a nibble. Okay I'll ask for seconds and eat them after dessert. Which desert though? really, please stop. What? Heck no, I'm really feeling good about this, how about everyone else, yea? Is this creepy pasta Sparkle BuyinganyTools said it was worth eating...maybe a bite? Let me know when you get a good look at it, k? Thanks.

P.S: I hate hashtags by the way. I just deleted the one off of Sparkle's full username.

Don't worry here is the pattern of keys goes up to 9-10 ref then goes back down to 6-7 ref then goes up again this just the high point of the cycle

Is this some creepy pasta?

So many words...

He's just reporting how the market is changing. Don't shoot the messenger

It's not funny.

"Your opinion is wrong"

Who are you even quoting...

Yourself, of course.

You don't know what a quote is...

Oy vey dislike every comment he makes! That will show him!

Indirect quotations are not exact wordings but rather rephrasings or summaries of another person's words.

Try harder please.

Don't feed the trolls.

Someone here downvoted me.

Has good proof & has such a sexy gradient too, upvote.

scrap x 3 = 1 rec

rec x 3 = 1 ref

ref x 3... x 3 = 1 key

Fair enough I guess :p

If only we could keep it at that but no... the key traders are already asking for 9.11. Gotta earn dem 20 cents per day I guess.

Anyway, proof seems solid, sadly.

Is this suppose to mean that 3 keys should equal a bud..?

20 Cents? I earn at least 10$ from trading for a few hours a day.

Good Proofs

Fair Suggestion

Nice Format

Upvote of course

Plenty of proof and explanation. As much as I hate to say it... upvote.

Should include a few buyers to disprove the previous range and 9 is more common than i.e 8.77 (think it's fairly common traded)

i.e I'm buying at 9 and get like 2-3 daily - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23086230

Love the proof. Definite upgoat. Let's hope though, for the sake of the TF2 economy and keys, that they stick to their normal up-down cycle.

Nice proofs, as usual! Upvote.

oh dear god... this is not happening, this is not happening, this is not happening, this is not happening, this is not happening.....

but seriously...

really?

again?

the price for this shit is just getting crazy..

AND THIS GUY

is taking higher the price for a key!!!!

why are you keep doing this? do you like to see the price so damn high?!

can't you see that this price is just getting stupid?!

this is definitely a down vote for me!

you are ruining the economy and you still don't get it....idiots.

opinions don't matter. a high ref:key ratio is actually good for everybody except people simply freeloading on the drop system.

is this for you a good ref:key ratio? really? dude we will never find a good ratio if this is keep to get higher and higher! we will never find a GOOD price for everyone! and this is not a good price...this is crazy! think, who will never buy something like this at 9 ref? think about a "new" guy who want to buy a key without using money (i did it) can you imagine the numbers of items that that guy is going to craft?

and maybe he will never going to buy it because the price is getting higher and higher every month! (is just an example).

people thinking "oh ye gud pr0fs up vote for me!1!!1" personally i don't give a shit about proofs, all that i care is: what item are we talking about, what price are you going to selling it.

this is a ridicoulus price for an item like this...

You are proving my point exactly economics does not favor those who wish to get something for free. The drop system is not meant to provide people with keys. just weapons and basic hats. It is the people that BUY keys with REAL money that are actually contributing to the economy. A person that buys a key from the store can now get MORE for their real money in the form of hats and basic weapons. How can you possibly say that is a bad thing?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23149878

Sold mine for 9 ref, I'm certain this suggestion is right.

Very nice organization of proof,

Upvote.

(But I feel guilty inside that keys are going higher, :I)

Oh sweet baby of jesus god #Upvote

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) not a bad idea. making every that much richer :3, i thank you Plaxorous :3 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) obvious upvote from me :P ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Why is the price of keys going up? Soon, it'll be much better to just buy it off of the Mann Co. Store.

Upgoat!

Upvote. Although 8.88-9 would have been better. 8.88 is still not too hard.

You didn't include buyers for 9 ref, so here is some extra proof.

All of our bots are buying at 9 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22665410

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22665388

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22421211

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19860599

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19378119

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19689001

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21757807

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21755772

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21733458

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22186945

Wow looks like a certain mod had a great time censoring all these posts lol. Ill leave my tuppence saying that i dont disagree with this suggestion, i just find it ridiculous

How is this ridiculous if everyone is buying keys at 9 ref at this point?

One might suggest i was referencing the general ridiculousness of tf2 trading, and as i said, i dont disagree with the suggestion.

Are keys allowed to rise this much on BP.tf?

So much useless comments. Why do you keep posting "upvote" "good proof" etc? That's why there's a vote system.

As much as I hate to see the price going up again, you're like the only one who actually post decent prices. I applaud you!