Suggestion: An Extraordinary Abundance of Tinge at 2.3–2.4 keys

I think what he meant was that a white belt with 0 accepted suggestions opening his suggestion with SCM sales doesn't look good, not a blind downvote because he dislikes you

I'm only using it as support, others have done so as well. Not relying on it for my proof, I have that below.

Well, you got good potential over here on bp.tf

The proof isn't bad (but I doubt with the paint market now, it'll never get better).

see these? this is why people are saying that they were gonna instantly downvote. Now stop getting angry about them saying that, they're complimenting your suggestion.

http://i.gyazo.com/5923275f374b61ecd4ff6e8291e11329.png

http://i.gyazo.com/566f3d971f34453ad1f890d6bbd97776.png

Anyway, upvote.

I find it enchanting that you think I'm getting angry at anyone, I'm only trying to figure out some reasons why people don't think my price is warranted, and I've yet to get any real helpful answers. I'm not seeing your point of me being a white belt, it's just a text, I know what I'm doing, as I've studied experienced suggestors suggestions and I've gotten a good idea of it. It's a completely stupid idea to vote based on what color my star is.

well, i thought you were getting angry, and people do this because, you cant base suggestions from the SCM sales alone, and seeing that you have no accepted suggestions just makes you look like a common price manipulator, im not saying you are, i don't know what youve done in the past, nor do i care. I'm saying that most people probably hit the downvote, went into the suggestion, realized that downvoteing it would not be in their favor, and upvoted it or going neutral. Again, which is a good thing.

I'm only using the scm as support proof, people might have gotten mixed because I probably didn't put it in big bold underlined letters that it's only support proof. And as for people downvoting instantly, that's the absolute stupidest thing to do. It's wasting my time looking for valid proof of sales to show my reason for the price I suggested, and people are just clicking down vote because there just so happens to be a tiny white star next to my name.

That's whats the world has become as of today, sometimes you won't get noticed for the effort you put into this suggestion and u gotta bare with it if u wanna keep making these suggestions in the future

again, you obviously didn't understand what i was saying, so il just mind my own buisness and not try helping you with why all these people are saying what theyre saying..

What? I completely understood what you said, I responded to your source of confusion, and gave my thought on the matter. That's all.

Like I said, common white belt stereotype, some people just glance at their trades (most of the time they just use their opinions or have shitty proof, etc.) and downvote. And the color of the star represents how experienced that person is in bp.tf pricing and stuff. It's gud that you actually took the time to study other's suggestions and it turned out gud.

U have those skrubz u put their stupid suggestions to blame for our (if not our, my) behavior, it's kinda like a stereotype for white stars, forgive us (/me) :v

Wew, me too

I owe you an apology theguynextdoor // ⇄'s only , your sentence wasn't structured very well though, so I thought you mean my suggestion was blind, and you down voted. My error.

all cool mate, good start

Yis, better than most whites here at bp.tf

Bit more proof

Sellers/Unconfirmed Sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23215888

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23208464

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1062693

Hard to come by many trades, most are either poorly bumped, too old to use, or disappear too quickly.

Was able to scrounge up a few more

Sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23229336 (2.33 keys)

Sellers/Unconfirmed Sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23246292

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23233431 Got offered 2.2 keys, wants 2.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23228080

Also regarding my op, only available for 2.33 keys on classifieds atm.

Sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23253181 (Ran out of stock, closed trade, and reopened with new stock, sold again) [2.33 keys]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23236976 (2.33 keys)

Unconfirmed Sales/Sellers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23251880

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23259187

Find pure paint is rough.

Sketchy Sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17162441 (9 days old, might still be valid?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12864529 (Stock went low, restocked *un-updated stock*)

*http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14464311 (2.55 keys, might be a stray sale, but stock mismatches actual count, not sure if sold)

Left these out because I wasn't sure

Almost insta-downvoted.

Proof isn't bad, but I'm neutral for now.

Not seeing your point of being stubborn and not reading.

Please read what I typed before you judge. Trying to keep my cool here...

I'd love if you could point out where I judged you. I'm trying to get some helpful insight on the suggestion from you, all you typed was

"Almost insta-downvoted.

Proof isn't bad, but I'm neutral for now."

This doesn't help me.

It does help by letting you know that hey maybe you could try and get more proof for you suggestion or maybe hes waiting for counter-proof and other peoples opinions.

Thank you for being only the 2 second person to give me some insight.

I mean the proof isn't weak.

Is that better?

I was was asking why you almost instantly down voted, and I was asking for some insight. That's all.

If I can butt in:

Your proof is fine

Stop being a stubborn 12 year old

We blindvote 0 accepted white belts because half the time, it's an 'I think' proofless suggestion. Look at the key suggestion history for god's sake.

We are TELLING you it's going to pass, so Whatever we say afterwards is frivolous for you to reply to.

Well said, Sugarcube.

I love how you get judgmental so quickly. I guess I'm stubborn for asking for some genuine insight on why people weren't even bothering to consider my suggestion. I understand all the trollers lurking in the suggestions, for keys buds etc. But all it takes is to raise your attention span for more than 2 seconds and look through some of my proof and give me some feedback on it. I never thought this would be such a hard task. I appreciate the insight, it was all I was asking for.

You aren't stubborn for asking why, you are stubborn for accusing everyone of thinking you are a lesser suggestor.

I only got off to this idea because theguynextdoor // ⇄'s only, didn't structure his sentence very well, and I thought he said my suggestion was blind, and he down voted. Apologies due to where they are owed.

Thank you

for future references, Blindvoting (or Blind downvoting) is downvoting without looking at the proof, so, don't feel insulted if someone does it.

Oh the irony...looky here, ur too stubborn to see the people that are supporting u here. Also, people almost insta-downvoted cuz ur a white belt with no accepted suggestions, but that don't mean that they downvoted. A simple thanks to those who upvoted instead of downvoting for gud would be nice, right? (I think im crazy)

Yes, you are correct, apologies, my reasoning above.

Thank you for finally getting to your sense, keep doing what ur doing and u'll be high tier pricer in no time

To be the end of all this blindvote stuff:

Next time just don't put supporting proof first. Put it at the end.

If someone says they're neutral, they're neutral, not downvote- which usually means they're considering. Not going against. Don't question it, just let it slide and be happy it's one less downvote.

If someone is considering, it's a great time to find more proof to persuade them. Again, don't question it.

What an ending :3

Thanks, I was working on it for like, 2 minutes.

good proof upvote

I wish I could say downvote sense paints are going up.. but its good proof! #waitingforchristmaspaint

Right after I seen this suggestion I went and bought a cheap bills - 5.44keys "let's hope your vote goes through and makes me a couple ref :3. #UPVOTED

Please look at my proof and make a rightful decision, not just for your "profit".

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23170866 (2.2keys) and sold 2 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/673977 (2keys)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/863449 ( 2 keys)

Both of those bazaar trades are too old, and unbumped. As for the outpost trade, poorly bumped, sale isn't confirmed. (Paint is untradable)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23261059 (2keys) sold 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23260998 (2keys) sold 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23260347 (2keys+1ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23260228 (2keys+2ref)

......

http://bazaar.tf/trade/673977 (2keys) 3 weeks ago & http://bazaar.tf/trade/863449 (2key) a month ago .. old???

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23170866 looking bp http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/86828 .. he have 1 tradable

sold > b/o xD

All of those you listed sold very quickly, so basically just gave me support proof that it needs a raise. I can sell white paint for 1 key, and it will surely sell, but that doesn't mean it's a valid price to use.

so if 10 people sell 10 keys that is the value? or the real value is being sold

People do sell keys for 10 ref, and sales happen, but very unfrequently. I appreciate the support proof however ;), proves this needs a raise.

for this reason it is necessary to see if they were actually sold for that price .. someone actually sold for 2.3 or 2.4? ... all my link were sold ... yours too? or b/o only...

example: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23260704 2 Keys + 4 Refs each. 15 hours and unsold..

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23208464 2 keys 3.88 ref 3 days and unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23228080 2.4 keys 2 days and unsold

That's why I have seperated sellers and solds. Please pay attention to the suggestion and actually look through my links ;).

There's enough proof #upvoted "but I could careless wether or not you had proof I thought the hole idea of community vote was for the community to up or down vote each suggestion not be closed to lake of proof by mods"

It's just so easy to buy these at 2.3, range should either be 2.3 flat or maybe 2.2-2.4.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23274281 - 2.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23114810 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9478032 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23229336 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23179293 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23121074 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23251880 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23189214 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23215888 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23201089 - 2.3

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=An%20Extraordinary%20Abundance%20of%20Tinge&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - a few 2.2 sellers