Suggestion: Haunted Ghosts Antlers at 796.25 keys

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Haunted Ghosts Antlers

Submitted Sun, 19 Oct 14 11:23:54 +0000 by ★ bun

41.67%

690 keys

796.25 keys

~3550 keys

ghosts

15 votes up

21 votes down

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This suggestion was closed Sun, 19 Oct 14 18:05:55 +0000 by [GIRL] Mr. Bucket.

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Oh my god he has one, downgoat him!?!!

Well I hope you actually consider this seeing how the last suggestion only listed 6 out of a 10 unusual sale and I have no idea how that got accepted.

P.S. The one which everyone claims to have a b/o of 45 was sold for 65 in unusuals however I have not included this sale in the calculations of this trade. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22869156.

My purchase included both a beams juju (not updated due to 1 of 1) and a recently price risen unusual, clean secret stash.

Another recent sale included and unpriced AF Gibus, whose most recent sale was a secret tc, which is also not updated thus not included.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22150344

http://i.imgur.com/LUV3675.png

KAW soldiered sensei 1.9(.9)=1.71

stormy luchador: 1.9(.9)= 1.71 *

pe buck: 2(.9)= 1.8

orb fire amassment: 1.4 (.9)= 1.26

g fetti lucha: 2.7(.9)=2.43

beams slug: 8.2(.9)= 7.4 **

burn spartan: 6.5(.9)= 5.85

ghosts mancer: 14.2(.9)= 12.8

vivid private eye: 2.55(.9)= 2.295

burning aa: 12.5(.9)=11.25

Adding up to 49.16 (rounding down to 49)

MINI SUGGESTION

Since some prices are old here are updated mini suggestions for this marked with *

* Stormy lucha - Sold 1 month ago for KaW soldiered sensei. - 1.9

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22709124

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22561785

** Beams slug - Sold for vivid modest - 8.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22265353

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22993103

Hope this is good enough for you guys :P

Hi, thanks for update. Can u add some proof for this sale: trade link and hopefully picture of trade history?

Thanks

Added pics of trade. Thanks for the heads up. I forgot for a sec XD

since you bought it, you can provide a screenshot of your inventory history. Do that.

Did you read my mini suggestion or did you just downvote... EDIT. Y U edit your comment now I look like a fool :(

I didn't downvote. I wasn't paying any mind to the bottom of the suggestion actually. It's 7:38 am here, just a little tired :p. But still a screenshot of your inventory history would help.

Its already there. I just added it.

I know, I seen it, It wasn't there when I wrote that comment.

http://backpack.tf/item/3011334519

There's 3 other recent sales (including yours) which you did not include. Instead of just updating the old trade, disclose your sale, and find out what the other 2 sales are. All of them are more recent than the proof in this suggestion.

Also:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22869156 - b/o 45 buds pure.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23091697 - your sale (secret stash + beams juju)

Clearly the recent sales are all much lesser than the current suggested price. Downvote unless all sales are included.

Well the reason I didn't do the other sales is because due to many of them being pretty much 1:1 trades with unpriced unusuals (AF gibus which was purchased for a secret tc which isn't updated.) The unboxer of this unusual sold it for http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22869156 which was apparently 65 in unusuals but he has not disclosed the trade to me. The one with b/o of 45 sold for an apparent 65 so Sales>b/o.

My sale includes an unusual that has risen in price recently the secret stash which bp.tf has not updated and a beams juju which also is not updated due to it being 1 of 1 for a while.

If it's 1:1 with unpriced unusuals, that doesn't mean you can omit them from the suggestion. Do mini suggestions for all of them, there are surely other sales that took place for the unpriced suggestion. Also, for http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22869156 , it doesn't matter if he sold it for 80 in unusuals, the fact that his pure B/O is 45 buds, means that sale should be counted as 45 buds. It's writen in the rules.

Also, it wasn't 80 in unusuals, read his trade notes instead of coming up with a value yourself.

Sorry I was reading it back when the sale was still open and if you read the offer, fashionist claims it to be 84, it was not a claim I made myself. I have included most recent sales in the post however how can I price unpriced unusuals when they sell for unupdated unusuals?

You should probably read the rules first:

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/

Whatever anyone claims what their offer is worth is meaningless for a price suggestion. Do your own calculation as to what that sale is really worth, keeping in mind that the B/O was 45 buds pure. Backpack.tf prices unusuals in pure, not unusuals.

Also, if the unusuals that the unpriced unusuals sold for is outdated, then update them first before making a price for the unpriced unusuals. This is what all unusual suggestors do when they face this kind of situation. No sale should be omitted as proof just because they sold for unpriced unusuals.

I understand but no where in the post does it say to use b/o's over actual sales. I deemed this sale to be the median sale within the past 2 months (i.e. One sale for 65 and my purchase within the last week). With such varying prices and bp.tf irregularity in updates for hats that don't sell, I thought that this sale would be most appropriate as it was the sale that was "incorrectly used" as the last price suggestion. If you do not agree, feel free to view this suggestion as a correction for the previous suggestion

It did state in the rules:

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/

Part 2. The essence of overpay

Overpay in its purest form

No sale should be valued higher than a hat’s buyout in pure. If a person in the comments of a trade states a willingness to sell for "x" pure, the trade should not be valued above "x."

You are making a price suggestion. Yes, the last suggestion was incorrect, but it was also the only sale at that time. However, we have more sales since then, the one that went for a so called "65 buds" is in unusuals. That's the overpay. I said before, backpack.tf prices its unusuals in pure as stated in the rules.

If you want to correct a sale, you're welcome to do so, BUT you have to include the other sales as well. 45 buds sale isnt an outlier, and I don't see why it can't be 45-49 buds.

This was what he said it sold for, it is nowhere close to 65 buds as he claimed:

SOLD FOR BURNING LUCHA// HARVEST LUCHA//POISENED SHADOWS TOQUE//SPELLBOUND VALLEY FORGE//SF SP KILLSTREAK KNIFE// CHIROPTA VENTURA TITANIUM PILLAR AND A 13HOUR TROPHY BELT!!!!!// Worth About 65 Ish!

Estimates:

Burning Lucha: 14.5

Harvest Lucha: 14.2

PS toque: ~ 4

Spellbound Valley: ~ 6

Knife: 0.8

CV pillar: 9.6

Trophy: 5.7

Total: 54.8 * 0.9 ~ 49.3 buds

Seller's b/o: 45 buds

There is absolutely no excuse not to include 45 buds in. Sorry, still a downvote.

you need to include your sale, if it is valued at 65 in unusuals, the sale can only be valued at 45 due to the b/o hence why this should be in the range

He bought it for a secret stash + beams juju which is only around 30 buds. Read my last comment for the other sale, it's nowhere close to 65 buds.

If you price, the stash at 20, thats pretty insane seeing how I've rejected multiple offers of 30.

"Reject multiple offers of 30"

I took this from your trade btw:

C/o -

Moon modest + Beams Hive if you add ~ definitely below 30 buds after overpay.

Arcana gibus ~ 25.2 after overpay

Arcana bonk boy + ge thirst ~ 27.6 buds after overpay

Demonflame Boa ~ 25 buds after overpay

"Multiple"

Also, this already proof that 49 buds flat is already too high for this hat.