Suggestion: Purple Energy Brown Bomber at 320–368 keys

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~101.5 keys

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I have owned this hat 3 times, and sold it 3 times.

I am re-suggesting this suggestion, in hope to finally make an accurate price for it.

There is a lot of proof below.

Proof is all below. (i promise all problems solved. hopefully!)

Sale 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22752026#latest

Purple Energy Bomber for Clean Moon Braniac (24)+Steaming YWNM(1)= 25

25*0.9= 22.5 (round to 23buds)

Mini Suggestion on braniac.

23-25 =24

After looking at

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/543d488eb98d88da0d8b4e43

There was a valid point saying that majority of the sales lied in the range from 23-25.

4/7 sales were in the range of 23-25. 2 were at 17. and 1 was at 15, however these were outliers.

Sale 2

What i bought the bomber for:

Secret Softcap(9.5)+Cloudy Moon Scotch(6.85)+Demon Flame Marauder(4.8)+Cloud 9 Blackwatch(2.6)=23.8

23.8*0.9= 21.42 (round to 21buds )

http://prntscr.com/475h19

Sale 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21566183

-Sold for

Burning Whoopee + Burning Big Elfin Deal + RA Pot + Hearts Reggae

http://imgur.com/ahysTSM

=6+5.3+5.1+5.8=22.buds

22.2*0.9=20buds

Sale 4 (me again)

http://prntscr.com/4w0a1u

Sunbeam Thirst Blood (14) +6 buds= 14*0.9= 12.6+6=18.6 (round to 19 buds)

~~http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23047074~~

Now the sunbeam thirst has been lowered to 12 buds, from 12-16.

So 12*0.9=10.8+6=16.8 (round to 17) *may be an outlier, as its quite low compared to other sales.

Sale 5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22899308 sold for scorching belt (duped) + 2.5

17*0.9=15.3=2.5=17.8 (round to 18)* outlier

This sale should be an outlier, looks like the owners on Outpost have rejected more.

Proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22242231

look at this for example.

declined

-scorching belt +4 buds.

-scorching belt +planets ke

those are all higher than the sale.

Same goes to this guy:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22515724

-declined

-scorching belt+3buds

-scorching belt+planet ke +1 bud (look in the comments)

-declined 18 buds pure

Offers to help back up the proof/sales above

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22515724 (all offers below are declined)

- Highest pure offer HOUWAR+7 PURE +18 CSGO KEYS

~ 10+7=17+1.1 =18.1 buds

~Scorch Belt (17)+Planet Ke (4.3)=21.3*0.9=19.2+ bud =20.2 after overpay

~Flies Swatter's Swagman(23)+ bud+ 4 Keys + 50 Refined + White Track Terrorizer

~23.6*0.9=21.2+1=22.2+(9.55/16)=22.8+sweets= (round to 23 buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21296115

Offered

-17 pure *2

-18pure

-19pure

-20 pure

- Clean Scorching Stalhem (26*0.9)= 23.4 (round to 23)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21566833

-Flies KE (16)*0.9=14.4+8=22.4

Overall Sales were

Starting from the largest

-23

-21

-20

-18 *is an outlier (look above)

-17 *outlier (would be 19, if not the new suggestion for sunbeam thirst)

*The best offers were at around 20~23+ buds(after overpay), indicating some proof that the range should be around there.

Thx for reading. Will try to read ur responses thanks.

solid proofs! upvoted ;]

Looks like a good proof! ~Upvote~

Looks pretty decent. I'll stay neutral for just the moment.

Off-Note: Could you make your evidence a bit neater? I had a bit of a hard time reading it.

The 18, 19 and potentially the 20 pure offer were all made by the same guy. That guy added me to pay pure on my GE Rack, but said he would take some time to collect and didn't seem awfully credible. In other words, they may not be legitimate offers.

With this said, I can agree 17 is an outlier but I'm unsure 18 is.

Edit: 20 offer is from same guy, too

Alright.

However there were

2 other people offering 17 pure (both declined, one was me)

1 guy offered 18 pure, also declined.

As there is quite alot of pure needed to buy this hat, pure offers will be harder to come buy, as most people with pure would be looking for quicksells.

So I wont be using the pure as my evidence. Ty for reading.

'So I wont be using the pure as my evidence.'

pure takes absolute precedence over everything. backpack.tf is rough guideline of the value of the hat in pure.

These are puro offers dezi. The main things to concern ourselves with are the sales. Offers help back up evidence.

"pure takes absolute precedence over everything. backpack.tf is rough guideline of the value of the hat in pure."

ur statement only applies if there is a sale in pure. After all , rules says cant base prices on offers.

you're biasing outliers.

regarding the second pure offer, it's likely to be a duped houwar which is valued at 19, bringing the offer to 17. 18 is not an outlier.

You can't throw the low sales as outliers and keep the high ones. That's biased.

Something like 18-21 is more balanced imo.

Why dont u read, it explains why they are outliers.

And no its not bias. Read all of it explains why.

Look at the sale for 18 for example.

The person offered 2-4 buds higher on all the other trades, which were declined.

Yeah, but it was sold for 18 right? Just because others declined doesn't make the sale imaginary.

You are cherry picking the 3 highest sales and ignoring the low ones. The range is supposed to represent the average price, not the 3 best or the 3 lowest.

No he is not, It's 3 sales vs 2 sales, which additional proof towards the three sales, and proof of why the other 2 sales are outliers.

Read the comments above from Dezi. The majority of the "declined pure offers" were collecting offers from the same guy. Probably not very legit.

As far as the rejected mixed or all unusual offers, you can't put a ton of faith in those to establish "value". Many people actually care about the hats they own and aren't interested in the hat offered regardless of the value. Example, back when I was selling my scorching modest I rejected tons of offers that were 25% over my pure price because I liked the modest and didn't like/want the stuff being offered. Many ppl do this, especially on this kind of hat, (1st gen, all class, etc)

Sales > offers and the sales indicate a lower range is more representative of "average value".

If you're saying that people care about their offers in terms of aesthetic content to monetary content then surely it's just as bias with the low values? I mean, if they reject high valued stuff because they don't like it but accept low valued stiff because they do, that surely makes all the values inaccurate due to them "Liking the lower offer more than the higher offer" I understand sales>solds but if you start bringing in reason as well, you're not going to get very far. It's quite clear that it is massively opinionated with this sale. From here it's probably best just to let moderators decide.

I agree, all mixed sales probably have some sort of aesthetic value attached. That's why pure sales are best. They were trying to use the rejected mixed offers to justify eliminating the low sales. My point is that "collecting" pure offers and rejected mixed offers should not be used as any sort of proof because there are other factors involved such as credibility of a collecting offer and the aesthetic issue.

If any of the higher sales (or any of the sales for that matter) had a substantial amount of pure I would have a different opinion. These are all mixed or all unusual and I'm fairly certain if you had all pure you could buy one for lower than this range.