Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 8–8.33 ref

Price Suggestion

~64.56 ref

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297 votes down

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Want to explain why the key is to remain at this price or craft hats have to go up in price:

Take for example Genuine Foppish Physician.

Price on backpack.tf: 1.33 ref, price on market 0.42$

6 craft hats = 1 key, 0.42$*6=2.52$ (key price 2.45$ on market).

1.33*6=8 refs.

Want to say this, that if the vote is on a key, the people immediately or to sell it cheaper or more expensive (depending on the fall or to high price).

Need to either reduce the price of the key or raise the price of craft hats.

How is the foppish physician related.

I took a Random Craft Hat which can sell on market.

drop price of own bp?

wut?

may I buy your keys for 8 ref?

I want to explain why we don't care.

Your proof is bad

It's not even proof

We judge things on how much they sell for

Your logic is meaningless

Opinions don't matter.

I had to be harsh.

You're quite harsh.

I like that.

It is a pity that you do not understand this.

It's a pity you dont understand how pricing works on bp.tf

also you know you're supposed to close this?

http://backpack.tf/rules since it seems nobody else has yet

Thanks for free bp points m8

Conclusion : buy a lot of foppish physician and sell them on steam market.

You require more ~~minerals~~ proof.

Also the key price wont be dropping any moment. (The cooldown is still in effect.)

Downvote.

it's hard to tell someone that you respect his opinion but you have to vote against since the metal market isn't as you wished it to be :)

I admire your courage with no proof, but if you do the maths you are right

man if u want to drop keys to 8 ref then please id buy ur keys at 8.66 ref each which is higher than ur suggestion so will u sell ?

Some people earn by selling the keys for refs and buy craft hats,

9.33/1.33=7 craft hats.

7*0.42$=2.94$ (key 2.45$ on market and 2.50$ in game).

So?

Dude that's not how the gathering evidence part works. I learnt it the hard way

you're not even pricing refined properly

You know what the funny thing is? When this is closed, there will still be some yes votes.

... You sir, have now persuaded me into investing in the community market.

He did the monster math.

Dude that's one problem but you aren't supposed to suggest prices like that. You make a point which is the price of refined metal continuing to go down if the price of a key continues to go up but those aren't counted as evidence according to the "creating a price suggestion guidelines". Sorry but I have to downvote this one. Same to those who agree with this price suggestion, this isn't valid.

Just to let you know a genuine foppish physician is not a craft hat.

LOL wow haha

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Foppish_Physician

Ok, I'll show you another example

Unshaved Bear, craft hat, same price on market.

Genuine hats are not craft hats. ONLY unique craftable hats are craft hats. The geniune version would fall under the category of promotional.

http://backpack.tf/stats/Unique/Foppish%20Physician/Tradable/Craftable craftable using recraft headgear craft recipe

http://backpack.tf/stats/Genuine/Foppish%20Physician/Tradable/Craftable I think you could use them to make breadboxes but you can't make a new hat from genuine hats.

you could use them to make breadboxes as they're still "craftable" but not priced under the craft hat blanket (and craft hat buyers generally buy genuine craftables for less than unique ones)

Actually, most of Genuine hats/miscs can be used in 'Rebuild Headgear' recipe and this will grant you one Unique hat.

appears you are correct. I actually tried it btw (stupid check box).

What Toy Soldier said. You can actually use Genuine to craft or rebuild headgear.

1. You have to provide links with sells for the price

2. Market prices and backpack.tf prices aren't the same

3. Cooldown effect = 3 days

Yet this suggestion is better than the normal first suggestion: "i want keys to drop becos i cun't bui one. thanks" (Bad grammar on purpose)

I want to prove that some are wrong and do not understand the logic on which you can earn.

If this vote will take, we all know that the keys will sell at 8.33-8.66 refs and try buy at 8 refs then to resell it expensive.

you've proven nothing

"we all know that the keys will sell at 8.33-8.66 refs " no, that's not happening at least until after halloween

And why do people upvote this? Probably because they don't want keys to continue rising lol. Btw its rising because of selfish people who keep selling it at a higher price

it's rising because of Halloween probably, people want to get a lot of keys to unbox for Halloween effects

There are many reasons the one I stated is just 1. Its just economy the greater the demand, the more buyers will be willing to pay and that feeds the sellers to get more keys to sell for even more and more

Your opinion isn't valid proof.

Keep that in mind next time you make a suggestion.

One does not simply change prices with math.

then sell me all of ur 80 keys for 8.66 ref each go ?

Owns 80 key's*

Wants keys to be lowered*

Creates a terrible price suggestion with no proof*

The face on your name totally matches your comment.

It does not matter what sort of logic you use to state and elaborate on why keys/craft hats should be a certain price. In the end, it's the proof of sales that matters most. It's as bare-bones as that. I see a fair deal of people on backpack.tf making suggestions that x should be a certain price, with only their opinion or their 'logic' to back it up (especially with currency suggestions), that's simply irrelevant to correctly establishing a new price.

If you want to debate on why things should be a certain price without proof of sales, making price suggestions isn't the way to go.

Do you know what inflation is?

u focking own 80 keys

Suggestions don't work like this

Befosty, are you sure you are proofing? Keys are being expensive in a fast speed and you should post some links to show us that key is selling cheaper than the current price, not showing the steps of calculating a key's price.

I wish it worked like this.

key is overprice

i agree that key prices need to go down

Why in earth would you include steam market. As the price voting guide said steam market is not reliable.

And your basing your proof on an item. Btw this isn't the steam market its backpack.tf its a whole different situation here.

And does anyone find on how people who are trying to explain why it isn't

valid gets downvoted?

because they are in demand