Suggestion: Saxton Hale Mask at 1.66–2.33 ref

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~49.72 ref

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After over a week, 2.33 ref is still based off a single sale. It isn't enough to include in range.

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Re-suggesting with new proof.

Rather big range, but the mask that sold for the highest was 2.33 and the lowest was 1.33. If anyone can find any proof to counter this please leave them below so I can make a new suggestion.

Sold for 2.33: http://i.imgur.com/MQDqhwC.png

Young trade that sold for 1.33: http://i.imgur.com/uJQc0yT.png

Several screenshots proving a 1.66 sell.

Mask still in backpack: http://i.imgur.com/K4erAvc.png

Note the metal count: http://i.imgur.com/kSJ65Oc.png

Now count the metal difference: http://i.imgur.com/Ii8PpSn.png

A 1.88 difference. Thomas confirmed he did sell his mask for 1.66, but he also traded something else for .22, explaining the 1.66 sell.

Thomas's Trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23503666

Last but not least a young trade that I saw and immediately bought: http://i.imgur.com/iJMwStN.png

Proof from Blue Rain:

Couple recent sales:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23504325 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23471209 - 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23503666 - 1.66

All of these sold very quick.

Conclusion: At first, 1.33-2.33 seemed like a good range. After doing more research I found there was a sold at 1.66. All of the masks that were listed for 1.33 or lower got sold fast. 1.33 Is what I would concider a quicksell price. With that 1 sold at 1.66, that marks the low end price of the new range.

I'm gonna downvote although most people seem to be upvoting. The proof for the high end is too weak in my opinion since 4 people on outpost and 5 in the classifieds are selling for lower than what you're suggesting, without success.

Do you have proof of trades that are struggling? Go try finding proof to counter it instead of saying that I don't have enough proof.

Not really that hard to find those sellers with there only being one page on outpost and in the classifieds. But sure, i'll link them if you really want me to

That would be wonderful. Please stop stalling and please do list them.

Selling for 1.22 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23568091

2 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23433004

2 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23522419

Sold for 1.33: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23532279

There are also 4 people in the classifieds selling for 2 ref or less currently

I definately don't think that 2.33 should be included in the range.

First one was sold

Second has been poorly bumped

Third one has been sold

What's the point of the "sold for 1.33"

Anyways, thanks for more proof supporting my range!

How is the second one poorly bumped? It has 216 views... And what about the classifieds? Btw, try to be a bit more polite towards people countering your proof insted of being aggressive towards them. Your 2.33 proof is still too weak, considering all the people selling and all the solds for less. I'm keeping my downvote.

1 unsolds compared to all the others that have. That's hysterical. Also you can't find any proof to counter 2.33 so that makes your argument invalid.

Rechecked:Someone bought the hale mask on the second trade. All of them are sold.

Additional sellers:

1.77: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23577710

1.33: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23584628

Classifieds:

5 sellers at 1.33

1 seller at 1.88

1 seller at 2 ref

1.77 has been sold

1.33 has been sold

The rest on classified haven't been bumped for one hour or more.

Nice try bud.

Also I love how people are hating my comments because of my previous suggestions with my past experiences and when I make valid points. Gg haters.

More sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23594662

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23595372

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23597909

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23592390

I know that they haven't been bumped all the time but there are constantly new ones on the market for 1.22-2 ref as soon as they sell. We're getting to a point when we need to look at common trading points instead of one sold for 2.33 which is an outlier.

All sold. Nice try again.

I give this comment 3 minutes before it's hidden

Here's why your proof is iffy at best:

You're basing your high and low end on one sale each.

While a raise seems in order, you're basing your ranges on just one sale. While that might be acceptable with rare items, the Saxton Hale mask is hardly a rarely traded item.

If these links QS, consider a range of 1.66-2.00.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23626829 - 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23638861 - 1.33

This range is better. That 1.33 sold was prolly an outlier.

Upvote.

132 offers? lolwut

Anyway proof is fine.

Alas, the range is better.

Proof is proof.

Upgoat.

Can't deny this suggestion when there's proof.

Here's my upvote.

Well Time to bring bazaar sales here we go

Unsolds

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1093274 Unsolded for 1.33

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1091993 Unsolded for 1 ref - 2 Days old

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1011797 Unsolded for a 1.66 Modest Hat - 1 Month Old

Theres more in bazaar as well if you want me to bring more sales contact me or reply

Those first 2 are indeed unsold (checked invs), but the guy wanting a Modest Hat has a private backpack. Another thing is all of these trades are poorly bumped. (22 hours, 2 days, 1 month)

There's a reason why people don't use bazaar.tf in proofs. Bazaar.tf is significantly more unpopular than tf2outpost and thus it would take long to sell on bazaar. Come back with proof from outpost then we'll talk. Also like Derf said, they are poorly bumped so not many people who actually use bazaar would see it!

What's bazaar.tf ?

another trading site like outpost, but significantly less popular

I was trying to be funny...

Oh, my bad XD

Bazaar.tf is a trading website

is almost like tf2 outpost but less popular

Nice work but there are a few things i find off about this; the range and the number of proofs. 1.33 is definitely wrong but anything above 2 ref just doesnt make much sense to me given that most of the ingredients to craft are .22

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Demoman%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .22

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Engineer%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .22

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Heavy%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .11

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Medic%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .11

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Pyro%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .22

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Scout%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .11

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Sniper%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .22

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Soldier%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .16

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Spy%20Mask&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - cheapest: .22

So with the cheapest ingredients on bp.tf you could craft one for a total of 1.66, even at .22 each it'd be 2ref and even at .33 for the Sniper Mask it'd still only cost 2.11

As for the proof, what's there is good but there isn't very much of it and if 1.33 can be discounted as an outlier then shouldn't 2.33 too?

Neutral for now :p

When have traders ever used logic? Anyways, its what people buy and sell for. If you see a profit, go for it.

I've seen some stupidity on backpack before, but this is just... I sigh. It's not worth explaining it to you other then telling you to read the rules. Oh wait I forgot more than 90% of people read rules.

Actually, i thought i was fairly balanced and neutral. I was hoping for some further discussion or more proof supporting 2.33, instead you decide to resort to childish name calling.

Glad you mention the rules, rule 1:

"Global

Be respectful of other users at all times. Insults, harassment, ad hominem and so on will result in a warning or a ban."

"Childish".

Rule 2:

2. Comments should be constructive. The following is considered to be spam: ◦ Links to image macros

◦ ASCII art

◦ Comments such as "free rep" or "owns one, downvote"

In short, leave that at YouTube.

Your comment doesn't seem constructive.

Lemme get this straight.

You're saying to someone rather rudely to read the rules yet you don't follow rule #1. The logic...

1.66 link seems to have quicksold

Currently one guy selling at 1 ref.

Do you have proof?

Sufficient proof, good price range. Upmoat.

you have 1 sold for 2.33 rest for 1.66 or lower, that range is totally off, it should be something like 1.33-1.66, you can't set it to 2.33 just because of 1 sale

Read my conclusion. 1.33 or lower gets sold VERY quickly, there fore it should be considered a quick sell price.

if you had 1 for 1.33 and rest for 2.33 then yes, but most are selling for 1.33-1.66, it doesent matter if they sell in 2 seconds if everybody is selling for that price

even now, you have this in classifieds starting from 1.22, the price range you're suggesting is way way off

It really is hard not to be insulting. A price is based of of SOLDS mate. There has been a sold at 2.33 so that supports the high end. Stop saying "how can you base it of of one sold" and find me proof to counter this.

i dont have to find anything, you posted yourself tons of 1.66 or less

currently on classifieds 1 for 2 ref and 3 for 1.88 or less

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23592390 - 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23611862 - 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23597909 - 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23611998 - 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23433004 - 2 ref

thats literally all of OP ones, rest of them have no price/no offer

2.33 should not be in the price range period

PS : 1 overpayed sale does not support anything when there is a sea of sales for way less

PPS : i suggest you get proof that 2 sells and resuggest for 1.66-2, 1.33 seems to be quicksales and the one 2.33 its simply some guy that overpayed, the vast majority seems to go for 1.66 or 2

All have been sold, but hey you weren't an ass, I'll definitely do that if this fails.

The conflict going on is immense however the price would best remain where it is, mask prices have not gone up and this being the product of crafting all the masks together by no means needs an increase in price -Downvote-

lmao op is so agressive

I sold mine for 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23586278#latest

Thanks for supporting me!

I think that this guy is having his friends downvote everyone's negative posts

More like the opposite. Look like everyone here is an ass, down voting me when I make a point, and up voting everything else. ~~KB makes a good point, upvote!~~ Fuck Kb, lets upvote every comment and dislike all of Bile's!

^^ Proves my point. Go ahead down vote this comment too.

upvote for the proof but the range is much high :(

Downvote, because most people that are selling for craft hat get quick sells. And you have no proof for your suggestion. All I see for 2.66 is some guy trying to get a better profit out of it.

The proof is write in front of your eyes, if you know how to read this is.

I give this comment 5 minutes before it gets hidden.

Good proof and everyone knows that proof is proof. Upnote

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And you're saying thay this is not for personal winning? You have 1 and youre trying to almost double the price, really? Downvote.