Suggestion: The Ebenezer at 1.8–2 keys

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~52.93 ref

1663 votes up

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This suggestion was accepted Fri, 21 Nov 14 12:36:51 +0000 by A Distinctive Lack of Vincent.

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Very rarely sold at the current price. Needs a small drop. :D This is most of the market I could find, ignoring any irrelevant trades (e.g. painted, above 2 keys, very young, very poorly bumped)

Unsold/Sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23685907 - 1.8 keys (2 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23682703 - 1.9 keys (2 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23586993 - 1.95 keys (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23678410 - 2 keys (2 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23668442 - 2 keys (3 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23659452 - 2 keys (4 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23654984 - 2 keys (4 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23654374 - 2 keys (4 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23596265 - 2 keys (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23583255 - 2 keys (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23580684 - 2 keys (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23572470 - 2 keys (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23574335 - 2 keys (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23486249 - 2 keys (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23480555 - 2 keys (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23421129 - 2 keys (2 weeks)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23389506 - 2 keys (2 weeks)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23383042 - 2 keys (2 weeks)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23342748 - 2 keys (2 weeks)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23197291 - 2 keys (1 month)

Sold:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23701244 - 1.7 keys (quicksell)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23698254 - 1.8 keys (quicksell)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23513363 - 1.8 keys (in 1 week, a little unclear; not in user's BP)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23510700 - 1.9 keys (in 1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23702888 - 2 keys

Not too much proof for the low-end, but 2 keys rarely sells. Thoughts/counter-proof appreciated. ^.^

Good proof IMO. Upvote. Also a nice looking cheaper hat. GG

1 Seller at 1.8?

Neutral, if it really did need to drop there would be more people willing to sell it for lower. At the very least I'd bet on 1.9-2.

And that's what I thought.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5437375db98d889c168b4bd5

This suggestion had about an equal amount of proof and passed. :p 2 keys is still in the range due to the high availability at that price, but a range may be needed due to how difficult it is to sell at 2 keys.

I had another link at 1.8 keys for 1 week, but it seems to have been sold to someone buying them at 1.4 keys which is a little unclear to me so I excluded it, but feel free to draw your own conclusion on it.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23513363

Nobody wants to buy for 2 keys. If this were a suggestion to raise the price to 2 keys, I doubt it would pass. I waited a good day or two to look for solds.

And now the only seller at 1.8 has already sold...

Rare to see you suggest.

I agree, way too many sellers for 2 keys, loads of unsolds, but you should find a bit more solds for 1.8 atleast ^^

You don't need solds to drop the price, but I like the range. The one issue really is that a lot of these unsolds are poorly bumped. The trades that have been up for a few days are partially because people don't like to pay full price for more expensive items, which makes them sell slower. I bet if you waited another couple of days the ones that less badly bumped should be able to sell.

You countered yourself.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23698254 -Was a quicksale as you stated (1.8 keys)

You have one valid seller at 1.8

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23685907

But that's not enough. Downvote.

*Sigh* I'm selling one for 2 keys. *small cry*

why is this disliked? i'd be sad if i wanted to sell something for high price and it gets reduced by suggestion.. come on people.

Seller at 1.6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23691500

Nice to see you suggest every now and then, this is very well put together.

Now, it's not as though the market for this is exactly small - there are tons of these readily available. Here's a few examples of conservative price drops that DID go through:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53af6cd74cd7b8813f8b4678 - back then 0.95 was 8 refined

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5389576e4cd7b8704b8b4877 - had about 4 low end sellers

Now, the market for these three items are very similar - they rarely sell at their current price. However, with the Ebenezer, there's not as much proof to take it down even slightly (maybe the market doesn't know that 2 keys doesn't sell yet? or they're all just being stubborn)

I'm going with Mindacos and saying 1.9-2 may be better, if anything (1.8 quicksold, after all) - from there, the sellers will bump their price down, it's inevitable. So yeah, I'd suggest re-suggesting at 1.9-2. :D

Thanks for understanding my main point. :p On further inspection, the 1.8 key "quicksell" actually ended up going to a scrap.tf bot (they buy for 1.5 keys) which explains why it was gone so fast.

I asked a friend what range to suggest and he said 1.8-2 keys was fine. 1.9-2 keys may better. In addition, the 1.8 key and 1.9 key sellers in my original post seem to have sold theirs. That wouldn't leave many sellers in the suggested range, though I'm certain more would show up.

Newer stuff

Seller at 1.7 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23727742

Seller at 1.95 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23724803

Proof for 1.8?

Not enough proof for 1.8. You need more proof. I best suggest you close this and remake it using 1.9-2 keys.

I quickbuying Ebenezers for key and 6.66 ref, and I must stop buying it, 'cause I has this too much and next I can't to sell this.

Well, price key go up, so am I for change the current price.

you countered yourself by proving that it quicksells for 1.8 keys

On further inspection, the 1.8 key "quicksell" actually ended up going to a scrap.tf bot (they buy for 1.5 keys) which explains why it was gone so fast.

true however, you still need more proof for 1.8 as 1 link is not enough

Every (or most) seller under 2 keys in the past day.

Sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23754576 - 1.7 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23731808 - 1.9 keys (never bumped)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23745346 - 1.9/2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23745016 - 1.95 (poorly bumped)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23750589 - 1.95 keys (never bumped)

Every (or most) sold in the past day.

Sold:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23732255 - 1.5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23731380 - 1.6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23736103 - 1.7 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23727742 - 1.7 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23734430 - 1.8 keys (http://i.imgur.com/RhArl4k.png)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23747903 - 1.9 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23720540 - 1.95 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23729310 - 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23728847 - 2 keys (had some nicer Halloween spells, if that matters)

Classifieds: (rounding everything off to the nearest 0.5)

http://i.imgur.com/bjd2yW1.png

2 x 1.7

1 x 1.8

1 x 1.85

3 x 1.9

1 x 1.95

21 x 2 (including painted ones, 11 excluding painted ones)

For the 18 ref listing (using high-end key value (10.44 ref): 18 / (10 + (4/9)) = 1.723 keys

Eh. :/

Yeah, 1.9 - 2 may be best here, even if the trades are a little young

I agree with this, been trying to buy one, and ones without spells have been dipping below 2 keys, most of them will take 1.8 too

upvote... been trying to sell mine at 2 keys for 2 weeks now

Now I'm glad I sold mine while I had the chance...

...Upvote

Some stuff to keep an eye on. ^.^

Sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23769471 - 1.8 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23771359 - 1.8 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23771671 - 1.8 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23771868 - 1.9 keys

Finally some sellers that budge at 1.8.

Though if they all sell in less than a day get ready to resuggest at 1.9-2.

I sold my Ebenezer 1.8 in 1 day

Looks like it. ^.^ The other 2 ones are still up though.

Enough proof now for a range, along with the sales at 1.7-2.

Got my vote now :)

*faints*

i sold an ebenzer like 1 week ago for 2 keys...maybe 1,9-2 keys is better...not sure

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23383042 got sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23389506 also sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23480555 too

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23572470 too

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23580684 too

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23586993 too

well they are selling slowly these days at 2 keys so and it does look like people are bitting at lower so It looks like an upvote to me at 1.8 to 2.0 or 1.9 to 2.0

Was gonna post that. :p

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23724803

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23580684

Those 2 were actually relisted and sold for a bit less if you check the seller's trades.

You have my vote, I think there is plenty of proof, and it's a nice range not a drastic change. :)

this is good proof and new price for now. but im telling you just wait til christmas time. it'll be up so much. lol

Initial proof would not have been enough, but the added proof through the time the suggestion has been up validates suggested price.

Accepting.