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Sold for AF KE + 22 pure


Backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061374527?time=1415260800

Backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061374527?time=1415347200


Mini on KE:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54659678b98d88912a8b47ad


57,5*0,9 = ~52

52 + 22 = 74


Pretty much the last time it sold, other one is in collector's bp.

    Thank you for making that counter-manipulation ;)

    ("[Ryfg]Lucifer|Tf2Gamble.com" spotted for the "-1")

      Solid proof. Upvote of course.

        where do you get 22 pure from? It appears that 15 buds and 147 Keys were involved, which is is closer to 24.5

          At the time of the trade buds may have been worth a different amount, idk. I didn't check lol

            it was 9 days ago, just when buds were updated to 15.5

        Looks good

          good proof

            The owner himself gave proof that it was 25 pure, not 22.

            http://imgur.com/pVGSflV

            http://imgur.com/L4l7Tza

            http://imgur.com/Zd7j6St

              Correct me if i'm wrong but I count 126 keys (divided by 15,5 would make ~8 buds) and 15 pure. That would be 23 I guess?

                It was 151 Keys, not 126 Keys.

              Such a good suggestion

              Upvote

                Up vote, good proof

                  No consideration of the previous sale which came out to be around 107 in unusuals including Overpay.

                  "Sold for 20 buds pure + Clean Sunbeams Veil + Clean Burning Stahlhelm + Clean Burning Fedora + 1 of 1 Clean Sunbeams Hat of Cards to a known collector, Voo."

                  Neither any reference to the sale for Two Burning Hazmats [ Wayne added a Scm belt]


                  You are basically trying to price a hat based on a single sale not taking into consideration any other sale.

                  Also,

                  Not that it matters but Neutron sold it to me because he really wanted to have a ton of keys to unbox in the Haloween Update.


                  Also the price tag is all wrong considering I paid 25 pure with the Ke not 22.


                  So with all the aforementioned things in mind. Huge Downvote.


                  P.s - Please do not make assumptions on what you think this has sold for. When you suggest please make sure you have actual facts regarding said sale. Your basic argument for Af Ke + 22 pure which is the only sale you mention is itself invalid.


                    All these "good proof" comments, but a complete disregard of the other recent sales? A bigger range would be suitable as opposed to a specific price because recent sales have a varied range, cant be picky or choosy.

                      In my opinion.

                      Any update on this hat should be made after yet another sale to bring up a stable price on said unusual.

                      I say that because there are way too many variables and outliers on said hat and another sale ( if that ever happens ) would probably be the deciding factor on the price tag of the said unusual.


                      Also all these "good proof'" comments, care to give a reason why a suggestion which just has one sale, that too an outlier as proof, that too not valid since I paid 25 pure be considered as good proof.

                      This kind of behavior just shows the deteriorating conditions of the community.

                      But with that being said. Id really love to see any and all reasons why you consider this as "good proof"


                      Sincerely Lucifer.

                      Calm yourself down, and don't be a dick like you were in the chat. Somebody else made a new suggestion.

                        Even that suggestion does not make sense and hence has been closed. Since it considers my sale as an outlier but not VoO's or Wayne's.


                        Also Im just trying to point out the mistakes in your suggestion that would help you be a better suggester in the future. So please dissuade you self from using any derogatory statements on me as that is not in any way professional of you and just shows what kind of a person you are.

                          Wow what person am I? When I asked you if you paid the ke + 25 pure you said you didn't. You started calling me names, and even told me I just made up things and tried to trick you or something? Even when I had proof you told my proof fake.

                            If I re call correctly this is what happened.I have no proof of this whatsoever but since he wants to bring this up in a price suggestion which is not place for such discussions, so be it.

                            I had just bought this 1 of 2 [Second prolly never for sale] unusual and Eriksson randomly added me out of nowhere without any prior notice and bluntly started asking about what I had paid for the said unusual.

                            He goes on to mention that he wants to suggest a price for it because it would help him price some other unusual he owns.

                            I politely tell him that the deal is private and will be made public when I deem fit.

                            He then says and I quote " Fine, I will just find out myself with your backpack history."


                            I tell him to try. Then he comes up with absurd conclusions of Af Ke + 30 buds or Af Ke + 22 buds.

                            I mention that I am not going to comment on any of these conclusions since Neutron and I had decided to keep this deal private for a while.

                            He then rages and goes on to add Neutron and ask him about it. Neutron tells him the same.

                            I politely ask him to respect our privacy and tell him that once I put it on sale I shall make the price public.

                            Yet he rages and rages.


                            That is not at all professional and is really a bad behavioral move on your part


                            Eriksson. Try denying anything that I said here because we all would know that you are lying.

                            But Again this is no place to bring this up. This is a price suggestion and a very poor one at that.

                            I wish you the best of luck with any other suggestions you make and hope that you get the Vinatge Shortstop you owned priced at 70-80 as well, as you have been trying.

                              I actually have both proof of when neutron told it and I have our chat logs. If you want i will post them here but it you will pretty ashamed if you compare them to what you just told above. But of you want ill post them both here.

                                Regard less. This has nothing to do with this suggestion.


                                The pricing on the suggestion is not adequate. That's all I am saying.

                      http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54659678b98d88912a8b47ad closed , probably here more than 74.

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                      Sorry that are question off topic http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,3151879080,116,3 vint Gibus you sold for Som. Burning Muffs ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23275815 ) or for GE TC ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23445539 ) ??

                        Actually, the sale value here is probably less than 74. There have been multiple sales under 50 for the AF KE including one for 40 pure with another b/o at 43. 50-60 is probably high for that. The sale here is probably closer to 70. And the third sale for the burning hazmats? Who knows what those are worth now.


                        I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a wide range of 70-100. But if the community wants a tighter range, they should wait for another sale.