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Welp. I just sold mine. Finally some genuine proof.
(and good luck finding any counter proof.. haha)
(thanks to carnage for the resuggestion!)
http://bazaar.tf/trade/1121026 Sold for 1.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23809397 Selling for 2 refined. (Young)
Currently From the 12th to now I'm the only one with a sale! I have looked for a 5 days. And have not found any traders or sales or sellers. So i'm confident to put this suggestion up.
Out of tf2 items tf2 outpost bazaar.tf backpack.tf trade.tf tf2tp.com There has been and is currently one sale, (mine) and people three people trading these. 2 for 1 refined and 1 for 2 refined.
>> 2 for 1, 1 for 2, And sold for 1.88. are the currents. And the rest are collectors / not selling ever.
Toxinn, owns most of the majority if anyone knows him.
PS. I'd like to make 2 the outlier with the current other trader. But it's to young And hasn't sold. If you want me to do this post below.
Reposting this from the last suggestion you made
You tried to auction it twice, both failed because you tried to remove your taunts at the last second.
http://bazaar.tf/trade/1112015 and http://bazaar.tf/trade/1112391
You then created a trade where the bidder from the last auction simply offered what he bid in the first place. Making the trade is pointless, and is only here so you can manipulatively say that you sold it through a trade.
http://bazaar.tf/trade/1121026
This essentially means you traded the item through an auction, which does not give any reliable proof at all. Your sale is invalid, and you have an unsold at a similar price along with unsolds at lower in classifieds.
Easy downvote.
Most of his auctions were closed due fake c/o's/
Or you can scroll down just a tiny bit where it tells you why they actually were closed.
Actually I know why they got closed, on outpost too, because I was the one who reported him.
Why you reported them is meaningless, the reason they were actually closed is what matters.
The point is he has absolutely no valid proof here.
sigh. it's valid. i'm not really interested in arguing. And secondly I'm the only sale at all. in a period of 12th to now. so its the most valid sale. Now if there was atleast ATLEAST. 1 other sale. Please. Downvote. And It wasn't essientally. The trade was closed by an admin > I'm not able to trade with anyone that offered (That's in the rule...) And i made it again in hopes that i would get a sale.. Which i did. It's valid... now please don't respond unless its with a sale. I'm really tired and not in the mood for spamming my own suggestion. You have made several comments on 1 suggestion > spamming.
It's not bullshit. and ask carnage (a very well experienced trader) He told me 1-1.88 is a good idea? I took his word for it.
So me proving why your sale isn't valid is spamming? I'm sorry I don't want a bullshit suggestion to pass.
My links that prove why this isn't valid is much more solid proof than you simply saying that it is with no proof.
You sold the item through an auction, created the trade so you could link it here, try to raise the price for it. You have unsolds at 1 ref, which would mean that 1.88 would be an outlier anyways. Please learn how to make proper suggestions.
EDIT : Also doesn't help that you got banned on OP because you were faking bids with your friend to make it seem more expensive than it really is. You possibly influence your buyer into thinking it was more rare than what it really is. http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/76561198067364483
I added him because he offered on my spell. I didn't accept because i had an auction up. so i was waiting down the time. AND after a bit of research this *"friend"* is an old arch enemy of mine. He knew i couldn't give him the spell with the auction up so he added me then put the offer.. Honestly. all in all not that bad of an idea.... (and no one would pay 5 keys for a spell because "influence" I dont see max heads selling for 1 key because of influence..I mearly thought it was a collector.... nothing more.) I mean fuck. i've seen level 69 hats go for a key.. and it was a craft hat. Why would i be suprised over something thats actually semi cool?
Other than the fact that about 80% of what you said has absolutely nothing to do with this...
You still have absolutely no valid sales. You have a sale that only occurred through auctions, which cannot be used as proof. And you also have absolutely no proof for 1 ref. Please, learn how to make a suggestion next time you try to submit anything here.
The 1 ref's on classifieds sold. There's your proof. <3
(L2 trade glitched and expiring items.)
Prove they sold and weren't just taken down or removed since they opened TF2 then. You don't have any valid links for 1.88, and barely any proof for 1.
And I see you still like to dislike to make you feel better.
Firstly. that sounds like harrassment. and secondly If 2 ref wasn't taken down. neither was 1. Find it your self or stop spamming my comments section.
Nope. You're the one trying to argue the fact across. And by saying "you're the one making the price" it means you have no proof that i'm wrong. If you're going to argue. get clear cut facts that i am wrong.. If some one whos not arguing asks me for proof. I'd give them the proof. If they're arguing with me. I'd let them get the facts them selves. Why feed the hand that bites you?
It's me showing that your links are invalid. If you want to hide that under the guise of harassment, feel free to do so. And it's your suggestion, it isn't my job to clean up your mess of proof here. You're the one making the statement it should be this price, you need to prove it. Show some valid proof, and I'll happily stop posting here unless its with counterproof.
Not only one seller can decide a price, if there are not any other sellers out there you can't make its price grow up.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23840993
http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/811383 Backpack now.
IF you want i can get more evidence it sold ;)
"Easy Upvote"
A link to a trade that doesn't support your range
You tried
It was sold for 1.88. according to history. Also. if it was 2 It'd mearly be an outlier.
I did try.
Great, prove it was 1.88 instead of just saying it was. If it sold, everything you've shown shows it most likely would have been sold for two.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198066044664 He hasn't been on since nov 11th. > it couldn't have expired.
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066044664?time=1416902400
And about 7 engineer spells are missing... I've checked tf2 outpost. tf2 items. ETC ETC... It wont budge any fact who it was sold to.
I'm going to attempt to add him and see if i can get some more information on his trades. Thanks for your time! I'll edit in the facts soon. Sorry!
Pic of trade history or didn't happen.
Also, where does 1 ref come from?
You are that guy with fake c/o's on spells and who offered his crappy spell on every high tier unusual?
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5399650e4dd7b8154e8b47c5 INB4 this suggestion.
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/546bb7e7ba8d88876a8b4753 inb4 this suggestion
It was up for 1 minute. And i closed it because i miss typed. His was clearly on purpose. (also Inb4 doesn't work there. :P Enjoy my like. :) )
mind showing some proof for the 1 ref?
Classifieds. Carnage said it'd be better at 1-1.88 ref. and that sounds appropriate.
fair enough
How did you give 10 buds worth of stuff? Also this suggestion needs work
(over a time period of 2 years to now. And this suggestion is A-OK considering the proof that i have at hand.)
Another sold.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23840993
You already posted that link.
You tried
just downboat.. he is trying so hard to manipulate prices with fake solds, and fake current offers
Manipulate prices?.. why would i do that? and 1 refined is hardly price manipulation.............................. considering that IS what people are paying for?... it's also not fake... And there are no trades with "current offers" .. Did you even read the comments? just curious O_O...
http://outpost.gg/vo/mnm2pl.png
There is your price manipulation attempt,
http://gyazo.com/6d559dbbbb3dbb0eac6fda0591fc7aab
and there is your punishment for it. And after that, you just come here, and post a price suggestion with little to no proof at all.
I had him added because he's been offering on my other trades.. It's pathetic they banned me for that. and i won't ever be using OP again.
They won't ban you just because a friend made on offer for your stuff. I have never gotten banned for that reason, so you are just making up things to get away with sharking
sold mine for 2.66 http://i57.tinypic.com/2me8qz9.png
Sold 2 for 2 ref each
http://puu.sh/dbi2C/5bc1939284.png
Nice. This should be enough proof all combined. Thank you.
He sold them for 2 ref, which is counter-proof, because 2 ref is not in your range stupid...
If i'm putting it to 1.88. and it sells for 2 ref. That's still good. All this price should be considered as is the low end. Such as keys being 12 ref.. and being sold for about 13 right now.
Heh. good thing you used your head and realized that though!(also. the random downvotes? All i said was thank you.. ( ͡° ͜ ͡°))Add valid solds, or downvote.