Suggestion: Cloud 9 Neckwear Headwear at 129.63 keys

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Cloud 9 Neckwear Headwear

Submitted Mon, 24 Nov 14 01:26:26 +0000 by ★ Monkey

52.88%

n/a

129.63 keys

~30.5 keys

cloud 9

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Pricing my own item for your enjoyment

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23831191

https://imgur.com/iJx22Hl

SF Minigun + 13 Festive Scatters + SF Pro Bat + 25k + Clean Max

15.5 + 22 + 20 (based on SCM) * .9

52 + 25 / 15 = 5.13 buds + 3.3 buds

= 8.5 buds

Only usable sale so far on the clean ones. Two are duped.

Hat is pretty cool might keep it

let it riddle griddle mc sizzle

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23262847

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23484840

2 bo's at 8 buds, both have been up for around a month

Plus yours is duped http://backpack.tf/item/2434854540

Didn't know the first one existed, wow.

Second is duped

the 2nd one is the duped version of yours. so if you think your sale is valid, then so is that seller.

The sale I used as proof isn't mine.

Then, well, where is yours?

In my backpack silly :p

The sale is in your backpack? Hmm..

https://imgur.com/iJx22Hl

Is what http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23831191 was bought for.

My buy cannot be used. My hat is duped along with another one.

You don't seem to understand what I'm asking, where is your sale? what you bought the hat for.

My hat is duped

So..? It can still be used to price the unusual in the first place, only time it's invalid is when you're lowering the price of the item...

The only times you can use dupe sales is when the hat is less than 3 buds, or if you're increasing the price and the dupe sales are higher than clean ones. It doesn't make any sense to unfairly price the clean one at a lower value based on sales of a dupe.

That said, I'm a little hesitant to upvote this, since there is only one sale listed, which might very well be an outlier given the price difference between the dupe sale and the clean sale.

That doesn't determine either of them an outlier?

That's what I thought.

Edit: I believe the owner that I bought it from owned it for less than a day.

Well, given the b/o at 8, 8.5 flat is certainly too high. As far as progressing this suggestion goes, there are a lot more usable clean sales than the one listed:

http://backpack.tf/item/2355404722 - 2 recent sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2912798808,30307,5 / http://backpack.tf/item/2817209714 - also 2 recent sales

If you can find one or two of these sales, and establish that the 8.5 isn't an outlier (and include 8 in the range), I feel you would have a much stronger suggestion.

Both are 3 months old and look quite complicated since none of the histories match.. Yet all hats at that time were clean

http://imgur.com/v7z3YQP

This is what he got the hat for.

For the duped version btw.

Thank you.

Since when are we allowed to price unusuals based on dupes if there are clean sales?

Because you're technically raising the value of the hat, which is allowed with duped hats. Dude, you bought it from someone for ~3.5 pure then go find ONE sale of ~8.5 and try to price it... that's hardcore price manipulation.

I have another outdated sale of 8 for the clean one. I'm not trying to manipulate the prices, the owner that gave me the screenshot asked if I would price it since I owned one.

If I knew that I could use dupe sales I would have used them :p

As of right now, you cannot price it until there is another sale since you bought it for pure and there is no way to determine if it was a quicksale since you and the seller were both banned on outpost.

Just clearly state ur pricing for the clean version cause I got confused too

https://imgur.com/iJx22Hl isn't this what he bought it for...

alright, should of put that in the notes eariler. anyways theres 1 seller for less at 8 buds now. neutral.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198029352880?time=1411282800 - duped overclocked lid + of mining + planets conn cap ~6

Lid: ~4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23530205 - added a buds for a GF modest ~4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23074537 - duped KAW kiss king? (b/o was 6 - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22564029)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198072075420?time=1412838000 - offered on a MN cannonball ~4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23262847 - and can't sell for 8 in a month?

8.5 flat is high here.