Suggestion: Refined Metal at $0.16–$0.17

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23766651 [Mysteriously comes back from a 1 year absence from trading, and the entire backpack consists of 54 refined and an unusual who's previous owner is an alt of an alt of an alt of an SR tagged user with 5 pending reports against him.. VERY trustworthy...]

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=32554.0 [duplicate of http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23887972 ]

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/8597-refined-metal-ref-017-%E2%82%AC014/ [duplicate of http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16142610 ]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14901748 [Webmoney, qiwi or yandex only]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23531731 [has 4 refined]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23741706 [has 1 refined]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23385198 [has 2 refined]

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Your actual suggestions links, factoring in the above problems, is something like this:

0.16:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23823621

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23714181

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17588815 minimum $50

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20125821

0.17:

http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/161623-Refined-Metal-0-17-and-Keys-1-9

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/24218-selling-refined-017-keys-190/

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/23975-buying-and-selling-refined-and-keys/

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23781595

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23887972

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23903495

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23844886

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16142610

0.18:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23776524

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23651936

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23650166

0.19

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23552480

0.20:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23752428

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23584682

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23661928

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22539640

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12419098

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23471646

0.21:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23833964

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I do not disagree with your pricing, based off my own experience it seems accurate... but this should be closed -on principle- by a mod or yourself and reopened by yourself, or someone else.. who is actually going to spend time and proof read their suggestions before posting it.

-> Polar: This halfbaked methodology of suggestors pasting links without thouroughly checking what they are posting has to have a line drawn under it at some point. How will voters otherwise get an accurate reflection of a market they know nothing about, without spending an hour going through every link.... Allowing this stuff to fly quite honestly makes bp.tf look bad by people who go through the suggestions in detail instead of blindly voting.

What's wrong with webmoney?

Pretty sure links are only allowed if paypal is an option to purchase with... I will double check and if not, will edit the above post within the hour =) If I take longer than an hour I will ask a mod to delete my post, and repost it with them correctly added to proof

Other than that, and the duplicates, everything else seems good.. I respect the fact someone with cash trading experience has done this suggestion instead of someone with 0 knowledge of the market ;)

@ Hunion Knight: I have also made a comment on the 16 sellers, see below...

Thank you Neo, Ive been incredibly busy today, your feedback / counter to the suggestors evidence is welcomed :) *thumbs up*

Of your 16 sellers:

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=32405.0 => WMZ only, not valid (people in many countries such as the UK cannot use WMZ)

http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=32586.0 => only 29 ref in backpack (said 1000+, sold it all I guess), quicksell, most likely invalid because of that

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/23850-selling-keys-refined-185-%E2%82%AC152-016-%E2%82%AC013-via-paypal/ => 15 ref in backpack, invalid.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23823621 => duplicate of http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/23850-selling-keys-refined-185-%E2%82%AC152-016-%E2%82%AC013-via-paypal/ which is invalid anyway

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23714181 => duplicate of http://tf2-trader.com/index.php?topic=32586.0 (invalid proof)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17588815 => doesn't have $50 of refined in his backpack

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23766651 => is selling for $0.17 in his name? ~55 ref in backpack, fine, but no proof that this is actually being sold. trust issues with SR marked friend as described above

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20125821 => 0.165 is not 0.16.

One or two 0.16 valid proofs are not enough. I suggest you close this and try again.

I would not buy my refined metal from someone with 15 ref in their backpack and very little rep. This is why they sell so cheaply.

16 low end is invalid.

When you see sellers with 1 page of rep+ and 100+ ref in their backpack at a time selling at 0.16 and *multiple* sellers with that criteria doing that, then that is the time we price ref at 0.16.

It is not enough. (My opinion)

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/545ee5dcb88d8867658b476e

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5446d364b88d88bb148b49b8

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53707b474cd7b8bd118b4a22

u wot m8

Why so? Look on TF2OP.

EDIT: double-posted for some reason.

Buying premium and now this, bp value = 0. .-.

Nonetheless, upvote.

As much as I hate to admit it, your proof is pretty d#mn good, *upvote*

Holy h*ck, RIP refined metal, upvote :P

RIP Buds, RIP Metal, RIP Bills. RIP everything not named Mann Co. Supply Crate Key.

Off-topic aside, pretty nice proof but more $0.16 sellers should be found if given the chance. Upvote nonetheless.

This is scary man! We need to find the floor already!

Did you really have to censor h*ck? And anyway, I think eventually its going to stop falling, don't know when, but sometime. Once TF2 gets old, less people playing, less refined generated.

hey, atleast tf2 economy much better than dota 2 economy. Rares that were like 10 cents above are now 4 cents. My inventory basically got slashed in half and dota 2 gives out complete sets for the new minigame so yeah.