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Unusual Bonk Boy Poisoned Shadows
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Poisoned Shadows Bonk Boy


#justgotup


http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198037202356?time=1409986800

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22439702 - sold for 15 pure (one bud appears to have sold for keys + other stuff)


It's on the market currently, has been for nearly two months: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23112941

    sold in less than 2 days and he stated it was a quicksale (which doesnt necessarily make it one), making it seem rather low

      Only sale in 3 months.

        better unpriced than priced with a quicksale price

          You're entitled to your opinion.

            It's not his opinion, it's the rules. You cannot price an unusual on a quicksell price.

              Only sale in 3 months. Please read.

                No. You read. ""Quickbuy" trades and buyouts (B/O) do not count towards evidence. Quickbuyers do not look for a specific item in particular. Buyout prices are set by the seller and therefore do not reflect the actual price of the item." The same can be said for those that quicksell.

                You will have to wait for a valid sale in order to price this item.

                  Okay, I'll level with you. Most suggestions that don't adhere to the rules tend to be closed immediately right? We know this.


                  http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5463dc2ab88d88af128b45ed


                  This was my previous suggestion for this, made a slight error. Was up for 17 days. Generally it's to allow for time just in case the item re-sells. Now, if I knew I was in the wrong, I wouldn't have suggested, and it definitely wouldn't have taken 17 days to close.

                    You make a point about the re-sell part just in case it somehow sold for 14 (even tho that suggestion was incorrect too) but it didn't, and that does not excuse what I am trying to explain. I'm talking about this current suggestion saying that you have not provided proper evidence.

                      I've provided the only evidence man, and apart from that offer of 18 (which was rejected, and the offerer didn't have any buds at the time) we don't know if it can go for any more or any less. Yes, this value can be adjusted after another sale and it most likely will be, but for now, this is accurate enough.

                        But that's the thing, because it is a quick sell it is NOT evidence and therefore this will have to remain unpriced because there are no other sales other than a quick sell. That's just how shit works man.

                  the rule dont say that you should price a hat with via quicksell, doesnt matter if only sale in 3 months or not, pricing a hat via quicksell is not valid

                  Wrong. http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2093784277,451,5 Mine isn't the only one around. You haven't done enough research here. There has been another sale within the last three months.

                    Thanks, wasn't on OP at the time of commenting. Haven't even been tracking the PS Bonk recently either. I'll take a look at the sale.

                      Looks like it sold for a Circling Heart BoA:

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21343380

                      http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197992887879?time=1412146800

                      http://backpack.tf/item/1784619550


                      BoA is ~25, with yours being unsold at 20 it's an outlier.

                        It wasn't a one-for-one trade. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22490065 More was involved. Also, whenever you've got only two sales, you can't arbitrarily call one an outlier and not the other. If a lower buy-out price makes higher sales outliers then selling at this value in a couple of days despite the existence of higher offers can also be argued as the outlier.

                          The difference is that quicksales can still be rendered as valid in exceptional circumstances, whereas a sale above a B/O that's been unsold for a while is totally invalid.


                          Also, CV Bonk has no price set, and is 1 of 1 (meaning that we can't possibly make a value for it, looking at its history, meaning we can't use this sale)

                            I don't suppose that this is a good time, but I didn't pay 15. I got me a good quick-sell price. Those have been acceptable when increasing an item's suggested value in the past, sure (Noh Mercy examples exist), but you're proposing an initial value rather than waiting for another sale, based on the logic that I've not sold it yet so we should assume that I'll never sell it.

                              You didn't pay 15, yet I have explicit proof that was the payment. First off, I've had a PS bonk suggestion open for basically a month now, and you decide to bring it up now?


                              If you have any counterproof (bear in mind that backpack histories don't lie) then by all means, prove me wrong. :)

                                I didn't pay 15. You don't have explicit proof of me paying 15. You found 14 pure earbuds in the last suggestion but you didn't find a 15th pair of earbuds. That's because I didn't pay 15 pure. I've never kept secret what I paid but I'm not going to gratify your attempted provocation now. I've dropped plenty of my own unusuals over time but in this one's case, you're attempting to assign a value based on a quick-sale. That's why many people have objected to this suggestion. If you want to know what I paid then search around and find out for yourself. However, this suggestion still breaches Part 3 of [url]http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/[/url] so you'll not find anything useful.


                                Also, my sincerest of apologies for not joining everyone else in pointing out that this suggestion is based on a quick-sale initially; I simply wasn't looking for it so I didn't see it. It is somewhat disappointing that you argue that I haven't complained until now being a reason why I shouldn't at all. The purpose of suggestions remaining open over time is for broader community input. It saddens me to see anyone objecting to this practice.

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23112941

        An offer of 18 pure on the Bonk

          He has no buds in his bp.

            I'm fairly certain he'd be able to get some, check his bp.

              Collecting offers aren't valid.

                Not a collecting offer, the owner rejected it before they could even start collecting.

                  Ehhh touche. If it wasn't rejected it'd be a collecting one regardless :P

          http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197982569301?time=1411110000 - these two for - http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197992887879?time=1411110000


          I can tell you that the chiroptera bonk boy is not worth 10 buds more than the shadows one. Perhaps 15-20 would work, but might be best just to wait.