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>12 refined shouldn't be in range
>first currency suggestion lol
>all research by myself
>i love how it says i own 0 when i kill 12 ref from the range :P
INSTA-SALES & SALES
Insta-sales @12 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966983 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23967565 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23967156 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966817 x2 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966789 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966534 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966274 8+ w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966215 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965829 8+ w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965846 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965498 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965069 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23964931 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23964496 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23964173 x2 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962497 x2 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962492 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962461 x3 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962408 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962348 x3 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962302 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962032 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961649 x12 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961546 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961374 8+ w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23960128 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23960118 w/o bump
Insta-sales @12.22 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23968594 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23960013 add add add
Sales 12.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23968219
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966753
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966416
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966235
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23943991
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23944660
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966176
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965448
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23964814 x5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23964779
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962659
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962593 8+
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962529
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961880
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961001 sold many
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23960313
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23953338
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23943558
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23943981
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23955127
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23953258
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23953201
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23956335
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23957752
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23957237
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23955623
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23955625
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23957887
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23957617
Sales 12.66 ref
http://prntscr.com/5ckt0p
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23967113
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23967037
http://prntscr.com/5ckx53
http://prntscr.com/5clt33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966491
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965554 sold many
http://prntscr.com/5cl5ca
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965127 2+
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23963492
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23963246
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23955002
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23956456
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962809 x5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962731 x7
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962700 x5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961955
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23955329
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961907 multiple
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961779 sold all
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961729 (sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961324
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961317
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961203
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23956993
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23957856
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23960991 x2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23959717
http://prntscr.com/5cmeff
Sales 12.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965500
http://prntscr.com/5clrfe
Sales 12.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965994
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965423 sold all
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23964001
Sales 13 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23968517
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23966150
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965479
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23964925 x2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23964137
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23963996
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961955
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961800
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23961243
BUYERS
12.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23516759
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23924399
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23963517
12.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23863022
12.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23780348
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23873273
rest be lowballers & unsuccessful buyers at 12 ref-
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ew go away 12 ref you're a quicksell.
Even though 12.33 sells fast, it and 12.66 are clearly the most common trading points at the moment
>Classifieds go for 12.33+
12.33-12.66 should be fine
Feedback appreciated
x)
Kinda lacking proof for a key suggestion as it is now
Check the other 2 suggestions, about the same amount of proof, most sales in the past 3 days were quicksells at 12 ref.
Much better and accurate range than the other two suggestions, but could use more proof.
Although it needs more proof, an admin could look at all people selling and decide that he or she likes this price range and accept it.
Tell me why 12.00 ref shouldn't be on the range with all these sales.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23958119
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23937384 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23937995
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23937789
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23937677
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23938301
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23939397
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23939303
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23939226 (x10)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23939661
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23939511 (x6)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23940782
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23941472
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23941389
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23942053
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23942416
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23942573
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23942870 (x7)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23943497 (x5)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23943943
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23943830
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23944208
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23944159
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23944672 (x3)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23944980
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23946277 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23945991 (x6)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23947299
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23947619
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23948086 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23948822
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23949102
http://bazaar.tf/trade/1132002 (x3)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23948843
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23949409
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23949262
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23949968
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23949901 (x4)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23949864
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23950128 (x5) (ADDED, ADDED, ADDED lol...)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23950116 (x7+)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23950280
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23950868
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23950804
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23951310 (x3)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23951249
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23951591 (x4)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23951742
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23952005
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23952475
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23952721
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23952956
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23953213
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23954122
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23954405
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23954763
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23954797
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23955487
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23955434
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23955761
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23956348
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23956218
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23956682
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23957657
Yep with your copy-paste from other suggestion, aaaaall of them sold w/o a bump, also did you bother checking classifieds? Try listing 1 single key at 12 refined, wait 5 minuts and tell me how many adds/trade offers did you get.
Yes, 12 ref shouldn't be in range, surprised this is coming from you
Yes, I copy pasted this from the other suggestion. Also, backpack is after common trading point, with all the sales at 12.00 ref it shouldn't be removed however, if all these suggestions are up for another day or two this might change and most likely will. Your range might be right if the suggestion stay up for another day or two.
"Also, backpack is after common trading point, with all the sales at 12.00 ref it shouldn't be removed however, if all these suggestions are up for another day or two this might change and most likely will."
Love this quote... Implies the suggestions themselves influence the low end to push higher towards the suggestion. gg Plaxorous, glad to see youre finally getting it <3 Come and add me for some free refined, for seeing the light :P
And so what if he copied and pasted? Still proves you wrong
Because every one of them I clicked on was already closed?
Your point is?
My point is if I can search old trades, I can probably find some closed for 10 ref, should 10 ref also be in the range?
eh I won't answer this question
Yes basically I agree with your comment earlier about copy-paste, I think you misunderstood me.
Even polar stated, he had a difficult time getting a key for just 12.77 refined.
Doesn't make any sense, you can send an offer for 12.77 to anyone and it'll surely get insta accepted, this even sells for 13 ref as I proved
true....sold a crap ton of keys for 13 ref in minutes and cant buy a single key for 12 in an hr :/
12.66 buyers
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key
We report the price. Tell the traders who are inflating the price to burn to ashes.
Take to a private chat please!
Maybe later.
Edit: The usual response is "Take to the forums" btw ;) Please edit your comment to conform with the usual response for people trying to explain bp.tfs influence to people, thanks.
The real range is more likely 12.66 to 13 ref but people are afraid to suggest the real one since it's far off from the current price.
Update
12.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23970713
http://i.imgur.com/d4ot0XX.png x4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23970534
12.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23970585
+ tons more
shouldn't really say tons more, better to get as much proof as possible
Adding "+ tons more" does not help your suggestion in any way at all. As Blaze said, get as much proof as possible in order to help your own suggestion and show that your suggestion is correct out of all three. ^-^
If we set price to 12.33-12.66 , nobody will sell it for less than 12.55(not including fast trades)
and that affects us...how?
Update #2
12.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23978788
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977109 x2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23975345
12.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23978448 x5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977664 x5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977198 x2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23976959
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23975504
Quicksales @12 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23979169 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23979137 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23979099 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977797 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977737 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977266 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23976926 x4 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977009 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23974609 w/o bump
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Dem proofs doe. Upvote
Lack of proof compare to previous suggestions. Downvote.
lol okay
Yeah, I'ma stick with the Mann Co. Store from now on.
The price suggested is actually $2.50 so Mann co store or not your still paying the same
' I AM AN ECONOMIST
I WENT TO UNIVERSITY '
If you were on university, you should know this is a fiction economy right?
Lol okay den
I highly doubt keys rising make people stop playing. This game is about the gameplay, not hats and riches (which people tend to forget). If they play the game for hats only then there is no point in them playing at all. Also the economy won't be "ruined". In all honesty I think some traders may stop trading because of it but it won't ruin the economy. The only way for the economy to crash is if people stop trading. Also if keys are 2.66 it would equal .40 something cents which is SUPER low. If backpack tf does remove key prices the price would still be 12.33-12.66 ref because this is equal to $2.50. To actually remove key prices from Bp tf then you would need to remove refined price as well. I'm very surprised that if you did learn economy then you would no supply and demand. Ref is unlimited but keys aren't which is why ref is dropping. And because I'm curious, what will happen next according to you? This is all just my opinion so some of it may not be correct
Still very curious how the Econ will crash. As for gameplay, everyone has different tastes.
http://prntscr.com/5d0kh6 >says you're economist and you finished university
http://prntscr.com/5d0klq >says you're still in university
you're just countering yourself...
Just felt like quoting this to say, yes I got my upgrade to premium gifted, same as my first unusual, now thanks and calm down! x)
Is it just me or does almost no one complain about bud drops yet massive amounts of people complain about key rises?
More people can afford keys than earbuds
3 key suggestions on the front page, great.
Nice proof, upvote
Update #3
12.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23983491 x2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23983352
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23981486 x2
12.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23984519
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23984223 8+
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23983586
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23982644
Quicksales @12 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23984257 x2 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23983900 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23983886 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23982587 x2 w/o bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23982288 x2 w/o bump
12.33-12.66 remains as the most common trading point at the moment.
I bought 9 keys for 13 ref in less than 1 hour http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977975#latest
Maybe you can mention that