Suggestion: Scorching Flames Villain's Veil at 375 keys

40 seems like an outlier tbh. Clean ones with B/O of 30 and 2 solds at 30. The person who rejected 30 I don't know about. Need feedback as to whether I should do 30-35, 30-40 or just leave it at 30 flat

Seems like that seller with 30 b/o quicksold for 21 buds pure? Not quite sure tho, but accoding to the buyer's backpack he's missing only 21 buds

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198122827285?time=1417939200 - before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198122827285?time=1418025600 - after

well i ain't sure of the price for 30 coz i recently rejected that also if you consider the most recent sale for a clean scorching scorching veil that is 44 buds (includes a gifted bud). Sharing the screenshots below. (the name of the new owner has been grayed out as he wants to remain anonymous)

the outpost trade : http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/238654

Screenshot of the trade history : http://i57.tinypic.com/2i04qp5.png , http://i59.tinypic.com/2v1uhqr.png.

I ain't sure on how to take out the exact timeline of the trade but i am sure you can do it :)

That looks like 41, and why would anyone pay more than 30 considering that's his buyout

oh yeah they are 41 my bad

about the sale well he wasn't selling for 30 i mean why would you buy something and then sell it for the same price ? he just mentioned 30+ which can be anything.you mentioned that it sold for 30 without any proof so i just posted it to let you know that the sale was well over 30 . I am not well versed with checking the backpack histories and timeline so you can do that and you will have your proof . A sale is a sale nonetheless.

41 though seems like an outlier considering B/O's and sales under 40

well yeah but clean ones are rarer to come by and one sale is 30 pure another is 41 pure so that seems a huge range

This is a tough suggestion to evaluate. You might be able to price a few different hats using the sales below -----

(1) To help evaluate whether 40 is an outlier, I have provided sales for the duped scorching veil at 30-33. Given the current b/o at 28 and a recent sale at 27, that's probably 27-33 in value, which suggests that 30 flat for a clean veil is probably low.

(2) The pure sale didn't have a b/o of 30. It was 30+ in pure. Hard to make any kind of assumptions. Plus it sold in a day. Guy might have offered 30 pure at first and he could have said I want to wait for more offers which wouldn't be a b/o of 30.

(3) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23789736 - the scorching veil was offered + 11 for a clean beams veil. Mini below. That would be 31

Personally, I think this is really closer to 30-35 and 30-40 is probably a bit high. But the sale at 40 is a pure sale that went fast. Given the duped sales, I think it should be included.

Duped Scorching Veil ~28-33.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198067834154?time=1415606400 - the 4 hats. all duped. mini on duped tossle in the duped hats thread at ~11-11.5 I think. Even taking chap at 8, belt at 7, and slug at 7, that's 30 after overpay, easily. Probably closer to 33 given they could all sell for those values in pure.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198042269636?time=1415865600 - PE veil + GE belt + scorching rifleman ~33 after overpay

Clean Beams Veil ~40-45

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23789736 - scorching veil + burning lid (which should end up ~43 if s veil is 30-40)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23905835 - 35 pure + ks festivizer ~40

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23229855 - http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198088210602?time=1414652400 - all those hats (don't show up together since he painted them). slightly over 45 after overpay. b/o was 45 though

- There is another sale for a scorching deep cover but this was used to price that

- Another recent sale for a beams dco, but the veil should be used to price that

Death at Dusk Dread

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24060626- looks like duped scorching veil, might have to check if stuff was added

Molten Mallard Dread

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24050394- clean beams veil