Suggestion: It's a Secret to Everybody El Jefe at 292.5–357.5 keys

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~800 keys

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54 votes up

42 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Thu, 01 Jan 15 16:58:32 +0000 by polar.

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2 Downvotes. 1 for 21 buds and 1 for 18-21 buds. both got 92.78% and 95.58%.Also a 2 year old price. Why wasn't it accepted? Link to screenshot http://imgur.com/SNX0Yee Needs some fresh new prices.

It's a 1 of 2, 1 of 1 on market.

Sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23934676 Looking for 35 buds.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20431432 B/O of 21 buds (old) it also was the only clean one existing.

Solds

http://imgur.com/X1Wozah Sold for a scorching pillar of hats + orb fire antlers + planets steel toe. (23 buds)

http://imgur.com/ChUxQg0 Sold for a Terror-Watt hot dogger + Planets hotrod + Bubbling beanie + Time Warp Hard Counter + Unusual Taunt: Fresh Brewed Victory Silver Cyclone + C9 Swagman + Latern pillar of hats + Gifted demonflame modest + Steaming Executioner ( 27.5 buds) The pillar was overpriced, anyone was quickselling it for 4 buds and got unsold for 1 week!

I think that this suggestion is more then fair. Thank you :D

Please help me with what i need to do better next time.

needs overpay, and a mini on the pillar, toe, gifted modest, and probably more, Im too lazy to check. downvote.

At that time, was anyone selling the pillar for 5 buds. Got unsold for 1 week!

' 2 Downvotes. 1 for 21 buds and 1 for 18-21 buds. both got 92.78% and 95.58%. Why wasn't it accepted? '

Have you heard about blind votes?

Why is 95% of the people then accepting the suggestion? Please help me, don't do it like this.

offer?

I mean, the suggestion.

Mods accept/reject the suggestions, not people, votes don't mean anything

Thanks for the help :D

Actually, votes help moderators in tough situations in deciding on a suggestion. Although its not too common, votes do have a purpose.

I have this hat, and Although these sales are low, the offers I'm getting are much higher. I was going to take an offer of a Duped Scorching Stash + 3 Buds Pure after he gets the Buds. That is easily in the 30's still. Also a Clean Burning Front Runner and a Clean Harvest Merry. I wanted him to add, but he could 2:1. Again, easily over 30. So yes, some sales were quite cheap, but this price drop is a bit ridiculous after seeing the offers it gets.

Also, that Clean one you mentioned has had offers in the 30's range, he was cashing out, and wanted to Quicksell it. So, you can't create a Price of of a Quicksell either. (I know there wasn't a sale for that particular Jefe, but it's still invalid proof)

The hat is overpriced man... I just made this because it really needs to go down.

@ LamboNando8219

"Also, that Clean one you mentioned has had offers in the 30's range" -now no clean -all It's A Secret El Jefe DUPED http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5456b678ba8d88922c8b4f72

36-38 bad price now , but here ^^ not all okay "needs overpay, and a mini on the pillar, toe, gifted modest "^^

You're correct there, they are mostly Duped, which means it cannot be repriced until thrre have been Clean sales.

The price is old, amd needs updating, but this proof is invalid and quite difficult to price.

Both the Sales are, technically, Invalid. The Jefe I bought is Duped, and you can't create a New Price for an Unusual based off sales of the Duped version. Of course it will be less. The 2nd Sale, is the Same Jefe. This is just what you bought the Duped one for, and what you sold the Duped one for.

You need Clean sales, and heaps of Mini's on most of the hats in the second sale, and the Planets Toe was also Duped, so you'll have to make a Mini for that, as well.

But considering the Jefe in both sales is Duped, there's no point.

The hat is overpriced man... I just made this because it really needs to go down.

Just because you feel it's overpriced, it doesn't mean you can just drop the price. Also, Considering the proof you have is invalid, it's essentially a dud suggestion. Downvoting sorry.

You downvote because you own one.its so hard overpriced. I'm not the only one who feels this.

No, I downvote because both sales are invalid proof. I understand the price needs updating, and with sufficient proof, that would be fine, but considering it's not a valid suggestion, I'm not going to Upvote. You see my point?

No, I don't see it.Why do you lie? You own one. I understand that you downvote.

If you had sufficient proof of Clean sales, then I would Upvote. But because your whole suggestion is based off of sales that you cannot use for suggestions, then I'm Downvoting. Just like I would with any other hat.

I have sales and that stuff. You will never upvote for this because you own the hat. Do you think i'm stupid?

Yo clearly haven't payed an attention to anything I've said. Both Sales are of the same, DUPED Jefe, and you can't price it off of Duped sales. I respect the fact that you have gone to the effort of making a suggestion, you have shot down my first few polite attempts to let you know that the sales can't be used as proof, and you have just ignored them and reverted back to calling me biased over the fact that I own the hat. I didn't think you were stupid, but after this immature display of rudeness, you are making me second guess my original opinion. Thank you for your conversation, best of luck c:

I have a sale, of the jefe who wasn't duped. B/O 21 buds. Read again

That's a 2 Month old SELLER. Not a sale, too old to Use, and he was QUICKSELLING for Pure...

he sold it for 23 buds in unusuals, btw did you sold your one?

Yes, I did sell mine. You can check the 'New Items' of my Profile to see what for if you'd like C:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061128112

Why didn't you taked the scorching stash?

He bought something else while he was Collecting Buds :s

ah not good :p

I bought this for a Sulph Tc no way its worth less considering how good the hat looks and as of now me having it on the market as 1of1 and to drop 15 buds in price is insane.

That was not a good deal for you. Make some good researches next time!

no need for research on a god tier hat with a 1st gen god tier effect that has been sold for this much in the past and now.

if you are looking at what the jefe has sold for in the past and here i bought it for a sulph tc which is price at 40+ on bp.tf and b/os of 35

while the jefe is offically 1of1 on the market and possibly for a long time.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23838557

~~Clean sales~~

Both in existence are duped, so this price can be based off duped ones.

Additional Sales:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20431432

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048439614?time=1412146800 Sold for stormy 13th regg + duped ks kabuto + harvest baker + gifted vintage luger

Using Eraser's suggestion from 2 months ago, this sale ends up at 21

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23262822 scammed

http://backpack.tf/item/1201072652 I'll look for more sales and minis on the outdated hats tomorrow I guess

Kind of an interesting case. A lot of people don't realize that this is duped: http://backpack.tf/item/1250031567. Which is probably why it is consistently selling for more than the obviously duped one: http://backpack.tf/item/1201072652. The second one is probably closer to 20-25 from previous suggestions.

This is probably closer to the "clean" price of the hat.