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Counter-Suggestion
muh 70 cents
Proof:
Sellers below 2:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24105510[/url] – 1 key 8 ref (really young, unbumped, 3 views)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24107185[/url] – 1 key 8.33 ref (really young)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21617523[/url] – 1 key 9 ref (bot, out of stock)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24101881[/url] – 1 key 9.33 ref (very young, unbumped)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24104790[/url] – 1 key 10 ref (really young and poorly bumped)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24083554[/url] – 1 key 10 ref (quickbuyer, has sold one)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24054434[/url] – 1 key 10 ref (quickbuyer)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977986[/url] – 1 key 11.66 ref (horribly bumped)
Sales at 2:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24005766[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24006708[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24098185[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24097401[/url] (sold for keys)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24095386[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24085229[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24090127[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24087078[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24034419[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24034354[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23791249[/url]
Sales above 2:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24091983[/url] – 2 keys 1 ref
Anything below 2 keys is a quicksell
2 keys is the most common trading point
2 keys sells well
Feedback is appreciated. ^-^
There are still plenty of sellers below 2 keys that cannot be ignored. 2 keys flat will not suffice.
They dont last very long. The only sellers below 2 that I have seen last less than a couple of days, and are also quickbuyers. 2 keys is the strongest trading point.
It's still shown as a common trading point.
3 active sellers at 1.75 keys, 1 is very young, the other 2 are also quickbuying dc comms. That doesnt seem like a common trading point.
As well as 8 sellers at 1.6-1.7 in classifieds as well.
I had been told classifieds cannot be used as proof, only as support.
Also, the only active sellers (with good bumps) dont appear until 1.75+ in the classifieds.
I'm aware of that, but they're support proof with multiple sellers under the suggested price. Even if they do all sell, that's even more proof that it needs a range.
There really isnt another strong trading point to enforce a range.
Three active sellers at 1.75, (one had two and sold one) two are quickbuying the item, and the third is too young to support 1.75.
No more than 1 seller on outpost at any other price.
Tons of sellers and sales at 2.
There are still quite a few sellers under 2 keys.
On outpost?
Yes....
I have only found the eight I provided in the suggestion.
Five of which are young, four are poorly bumped, one is out of stock, one has sold one, and two are quickbuyers.
Only three below 2 are at the same price. But two are quickbuyers and one is very young.
I, personally, would be against creating a range of 1.75-2 based off of those three sellers.
The trade age doesn't make much a difference, as there's still quite a few sellers under 2 keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24080952
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24107185
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24097479
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24111480
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24108681
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23983252
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24110011
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24079980
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24108623
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24104790
Still need more? Let me fix that for you.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24080952[/url] - 1 EOTL key + 10 ref = 16.66 ref + 10 ref = 2 normal keys
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24097479[/url] - just closed
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24107185[/url] - only 7 hrs old
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24111480[/url] - only 45 mins old
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24108681[/url] - only 4 hours old
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23983252[/url] - quicksale, and by the looks of it it hasnt been bumped well (24 views)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24110011[/url] - only 2 hours old
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24079980[/url] - poorly bumped by the looks of it (32 views)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24108623[/url] - only 4 hours old, unbumped (selling together or separate?)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24104790[/url] - only 12 hours old, poorly bumped
Eotl keys are 1.2 keys = 2.66 ref. and 10 ref = 12.66 ref, less than 1 key.
How old they are doesn't matter, there are more sellers below 2 keys than there are at 2 keys.
EOTL = 1.15+1.35/2 = 1.5/2 = 1.25 = 1 key 3.33 ref
+ 10 = 1 key + 13.33 ref
13.33 ref = 1 key
1 key + 1 key = 2 keys
And age does matter, if theyre young, not a lot of people have seen them, meaning they havent been given a chance to sell.
If you have links, please provide them, and maybe I can create a range.
More you say?
SKADOOSH
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24105510
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24101881
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23930607
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23898318
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24021562
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24085401
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977986
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24031209
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24072877
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23676793
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24028674
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22665918
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24021509
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23982579
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24001449
In order: (too lazy to bbcode)
young and poorly bumped
young and unbumped
sold
only 71 views? poorly bumped from the looks of it
poorly bumped, not selling for pure
1 day old, unbumped
really badly bumped
range on a b/o?
unbumped
horrible bumping
unbumped
horrible bumping
unbumped
unbumped for 6 days
no price
Sellers are sellers. BP.TF price = 1.85
I'm sorry, but the way I had been taught to create suggestions included being advised against using "bad sellers."
Sellers of this denotation:
Bad bumping
Lack of price
Selling for items
Very young trades
Sellers that have sold all of their stock
I'm goin to bed now
Bad sellers are for when you're raising a price. The current range is even starting to look bad with all these sellers.
I am raising a price. Check the top of the page.
*facedesk*
^~^
g'night now