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0.65 keys = 9 ref
credits to polar
http://imgur.com/pxh3tcb,EzgmI6h,rjjFwvW,KtX0yfa,cEEr1mo,FCDNJEc,u8ZDNBj,EMeySM6,SjePyPO,r1Mu1iR,kEEufIO
11 sales @1 key
Sellers
@0.65/9 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24147971
10 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24156445
@10.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24155352
Thanks!
A lot of stranges are being sold fro higher prices. Especially Soda Pooper, etc.
The vintage lochs are rising as well, only 1 for sale though.
Oh boy, do these ranges suck >.>
...But they are accurate...
I know right?! Upvote
Unlike most of the weapon's users
The range is 0.65-1 keys... You have 65 likes.. suggestion never getting accepted confirmed?
I'll say this tho- the cheapest seller on classifieds, where you can usually find some nice quick sells, is selling for 11 refined, and the cheapest on outpost AT ALL is 12 refined, most are 14 or a key. There does seem to be a serious hype going on
But why.....
what do you mean?
Muselk :C wai u do dis
He can influence the market singlehandedly.
Loch-n-Load got a buff on this new smissmass update, as if it wasn't O.P. before.. So that's kinda cool
buy one on scrap.tf
sell it for 1 key
win
Nice! I'm with ya
I sold one at 1 key earlier today Upboat
Sold 2-3 more in the last few days
A bunch of people were trying to buy my strange loch-n-load even though I wrote in the trade that I wasn't selling it separately. Strange hype is kinda following the key rise, I guess.
Sold it at a key up vote
http://i.imgur.com/TCuYODL.jpg
maybe they sold a Strange Loch-n-Load with part i dont know, i dont vote in this one! the price in the market dont help( $0.92). 5 Ref or 6 is ok, but 9 or 14 ref no!
ok thanks
Loch-n-load hype :D
random strange hype*
Muselk Loch-n-Load Hype*
Every recent strange weapon that had a rise in price can be parallelled in time to Muselk's video regarding said weapon.
So to stop keys rising so much we need Muselk to provide a video saying how it is the best item in the game. Hopefully refind would then go up and keys would come down :D
It could also mean that people are investing their keys into something with a stable value other than unusuals and buds.
now the price go to $1.40 with parts, this create panic in the people!
I can see you picture
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24163403#latest - Sold one for 1 key in less than a day
Nein, nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein.
Thoose are sellers, you, could even ask 1.5 million buds for a strange Loch-n-load, its not a proof untill a couple of clean strange loch-n-loads are sold for that price so were i was, yeah right,,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein.,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein,nein.
oke
Sold 2 in less than a day, becoming easier to sell.
Maybe after MrMuselk's video?
I don't know who that is, and I probably don't want to. Also if it's one of those morons who deletes a mass number of the same item, that doesn't do anything, but prove that you're an ignorant jackass who knows absolutely nothing about how an economy works.
Owner of Trade.tf he made a video on how "good" loch and load can be in a demo loadout pointing out pro's...
So it's the trade.tf owner using the loch-n-load and that somehow makes it rise? Wow, people sure are manipulated easily here.
It's the only explanation I can think of...
Simply, people don't uncrate stanges anymore, only the new hats to see if they have any luck uncrating an unusual, etc
(I'll just copypaste what I said on the Unique Loch suggestion)
I have heard many people complain about he Point and Shoot hype resulting from the growing popularity of the competitive TF2 player, Muselk. This could be for the same exact reason, due to this recent video:[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpyTK7j-3gg[/url]. This could also explain Powerjack hype, as well as Backburner hype:[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpyTK7j-3gg[/url]. His Soldier video also incorporates the use of the Escape Plan, which also has hype, but has remained untapped as of now. Call me an idiot, but I'm calling these parallels completely triggered. The Muselk Conspiracy.
actually u are so right! all this hypes that we've seen lately it's because of this recent videos at 1st i didn't get it (the price spikes) then after i watched some videos the truth has been spoken lol
Thanks! It is evident that he has many fans.
Competitive?
Being a pub star is competitive now?
I apologize if our definition of 'competitive' differed. I was going with the traditional definition which stated that two or more people/teams work against each other for a common goal. I don't see why you have to get mad at me though...
god why are people disliking your comment... its just your opinion
Random Strange Hype :/
all i see on outpost is people sellin for 1 key now .-.
it shouldn't be up to 1 key maybe an extra 6 ref we'll do or 7. Since if you look it in the community market it's only around $1.60~$1.80
We don't use SCM prices over here.
I sold one for 9 ref
http://imgur.com/mF63Psv
that would've been easy- so did I in like 2 minutes
Nice
I'm fairly sure this can be bumped up again almost immediately after this suggestion goes through, your sellers for less than a key are already sold out, despite being poorly bumped. Upvote.
Shit man, I bought mine for like 80 cents off the market,
Glad I got one of these and made it my baby recently c:
Upboat!
lets just have not spike in price
Let's have just proofs > your pointless opinion.
dayum! i got mine 1 year ago, it's laying down in my backpack, thanks god i didn't sold it yet
sold mines for a key, upvote
needs more proof, downvote
Ahh yes, 'the ignorant voter'. A child who's incapable of doing any bit of research despite the proof being right in front of their face and making wild assumptions out of their arse without even knowing how to make a suggestion, or even know the rules. We have dismissed that claim.
,,,,,,,,rood
ok thanks
good proof, up-the-butt vote
VIVA LE REVOLUTION!!!
Upvote.
11 sales is quite a good amount, but they're by the same seller.
Guess I'm staying neutral
so?
they're by the same seller, so he could've been selling to his friends, and I didnt want to say this but it could have been manipulated
It's something to consider, mate
inb4 polar manipulates
He's got three other trades too.
"It's something to consider, mate" - Spyro 2014
Range is getting unreliable now. After this suggestion regardless of it passing or not, new range will most definitely be needed if it's going for 13 ref to a key +.
Downvote, people can sell it for 99999999999999999999999999buds but it won't get any buyers. Lack of proof and most of them are sellers not solds.
' most of them are sellers not solds '
I bet my whole inventory you didn't even bother checking the 11 screenshots which are completed sales lol
You have 4 links, how am i suppose to know how many sales there are and if they were sold why didnt u title it solds instead of sellers ????!!!!
You know, the first link is to multiple images.
I like this comeback, he got wrecked. Wrecked the typical suggestion commentor. Well played!
i remember when this thing was 2.66! anyway, upvote.
dat huge spike, but accurate ;-; upboat
why are we even making our lives harder.
upvote ofc.
ok thanks
i sold one for 1 key:
http://i.imgur.com/kBX8cG6.png
Ok here's some help
Buyer above bp.tf price:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24197600 buying at 6 refined, hasn't successfully bought it yet
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24202689 buying at 5 refined, hasn't
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24197576 also buying at 5 refined
hope it helps, and please stop down voting my comments
Dayum. I should have kept that. Why is there a sudden demand? So many questions.
Muselk's video about the Loch-n-load being too OP. It happened with the Strange Backburner as well.
Sold a s loch n load + vintage loch n load for a spec ks strange loose cannon. I know the ks added makes it unreliable for a range but without the ks its 2 keys for the strange loose cannon. This indicates a rise as if we went by the old range for the vintage and strange loch n loads at around 5 ref at the high end, its 10 ref, nowhere near how much a s loose cannon costs.
http://i.imgur.com/GSNaQsx.png
I have no fuckin idea with the reason behind this sudden price rise. Could someone please explain?
I heard it's because some guy who owns trade.tf did a video showing how good the wep is and how op it is so his subscribes are all hyped now.
Na-ah. Voting versus. There are idiots all around you. If someone place usual weapon on marketplace for 99999999 dollars, its doesent mean its price that much high.
did you even check the 11 pages.
more like just 1 key but upvote :P
i upvote because i think this worth the price
Mike you are doing great with suggestions. Keep em' going . Upvote :)
Thanks!
Nice Proof. Upvote
some of which did'nt sell they still have it
I'm upvoting
I have difficulty finding LnL below the suggest updated price. My 2 cents.
I think this suggestion has gotten more voting done about it than the last key suggestion my god.
Upvote as it IS quite accurate.
why isnt it accepted yet? everyone is upvoating.
(ps. the range is good, just bought 2)
I'm quite rusty ...
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24156445 > closed by not sold ?
@10.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24155352 > closed by not sold ?
6 days ago this suggestion, perhaps, was solid, but I see "normal" buyers ignores the high metal market and buy from cm instead. So, recent sales please ?
I put a gifted one up for 8.33 yesterday on the classies and it instasold (less than 1 minute).
http://i.imgur.com/I8406aB.png
http://i.imgur.com/3BLrRmg.png
This is accurate, upvote.
just accept this bloody suggest, what do we have to wait for?!
Good proof , nice range in price too!great job mike upvote~
GREAT
now do a suggestion on the loose cannon to make it 1 ref!
I uhm, nvm- upvote.
Been keepin'nis for about half a year now. (With some noice killstreekz)
Sold 2 at 12 ref each
Are you able to provide screenshots? They'd be invaluable for the suggestion.
I thought I put the link in, I am not able to take pictures atm, but here is the trade, I had two available and the last sold yesterday, as soon as I can, I will provide pics of my trade history. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24214584#latest
No need to, I believe in you
well, your bp shows you only have 1 strange loch n load that has kills while explosive jumping on it (different from one on outpost), and it only has 3 kills meaning you got it recently, so its probably different from the one you sold. So yeah, you probably did sell it for 12 ref
I had 3, I remember having another trade for having both Loch's on display http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24203488#latest I kept the one with the strange parts since... it had that strange part.
thats cool XD
Whats with the downvotes?
I think someone is down voting all of the comments written in favour of this suggestion..... So many of them are like -1, I don't know
Wow, excellent proof, amazing suggestion! UPVOTE, UPVOTE, UPVOTE.
Proof seems to be legit and works out. Up-voting.
I knew buying that strange loch n load a year and a half ago would pay off eventually
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24156445 Sold in less than a day at 10 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24147971 Sold for 9 ref in a day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24155352 Sold for 10.33 in less than a day
Maybe 1 key flat is better.
those sell fast, but are common trading points, range is needed
Well, since this suggestion was posted, I haven't sold a single at a key. It may have been accurate at the time, but I'm not so sure it is any more. Selling for ~7-8 ref on SCM and there are loads of sellers at 9-12 ref on classies now. Probably should be priced in refined and the rise should be a bit more conservative.
First two pages of outpost:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24242728
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24239226
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24238668
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24229087
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24186327
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24191859
for the thing regarding the scm, at this point its kinda pointless to count the scm for now as the holiday sale influences lower priced items to sell. It happens with the stranges and it happened with vintages last year too. Some like the v. gunslinger which were around 30 cents a piece dropped to under ten cents each. So the scm is kinda unreliable for now. :l
staying neutral for now.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24201391#latest no luck either
a guy offered me some buck turner all-stars (balaclavas are forever), for my loch-n-load, guess i'll upvote
http://imgur.com/LaXoKDt sold earlier today
Wait, SCM can be used as proof now?
Depends on the circumstances. Often it's quite useful as supporting proof, and there have in fact been a few items priced solely on Steam Community Market sales, because they were rare items and the 15% fee was accounted for. Some suggestions have been closed because SCM prices countered it, other times it's overlooked.
As support proof.
well now all but 2 links sold, probably because of this post,...
His low end is 9 refined, and the solds are nine refined or above
wow, this thing just got nerfed haha, not sure if this price still counts anymore, goin to stay neutral for now
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand rip hype, thanks for the great update valve.
Priced way too high: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2013/02/01youtried.png
Well, valve added an update.
BACK TO NEUTRAL because who knows what people will price it now.
EVERYONE, i traded mine
http://imgur.com/LaXoKDt
that's like 2 keys in items, nice
thx m8 don't h8
I believe the alterations made to this weapon are going to effect its desirability, gonna be an interesting suggestion to watch
Loch n load was bumped. Price need to be higher.
Relatively sparse collection of material evidence, but seems solid. Sold one for 1 Key earlier today. Upboat from me.
4.5k votes, 8 days and no final decision? Even with the change to the loch just make a decision. After another week the price can be tweaked in account for the buff/nerf.
Okay Okay, put one up on classifieds for 9 ref and got 2 pure offers within 10 minutes, definitely uproot
omg did I write uproot? that was autocorrect, I meant upvote of course
8 whopping days, mods PLEASE, either accept this or
close this. Don't leave this hanging! c:still active since 1 week
illuminati?
I sold mine for 1 key in a few minutes and even bought a new one for 1:1 with a Lime Birdman. Stats change hype also exists. Upvote from me.
I guess I did good by buying mine for 4 refined last week. :)
Dunno why this hasnt been accepted yet, 0 sellers below 9 ref
So? range is 9 and above
I have sold 2 at 11 ref in under an hour
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24286509[/url]
Hope this helps you
Just sold one for 10 ref after 1-2 days via classifieds
I don't think 1 key should be in the range. This is most likely around 10 ref +- a little.
I can't just ignore all those 1 key sales
What polar said is correct.
Unsolds at a key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24254373 2 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24173976 week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24099696 don't think polar's sold any since
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24195238 6 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24231231 3 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24234939 3 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24229137 has parts, 3 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24238643 Claims to have sold 3-4, still has a couple remaining
Sellers below 1 key (some are young)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24286964 10 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24060251 11 ref, 5 in stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24278079 11 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24257411 12 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24270718 12 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24229087 12 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24248450 13 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24267170 14 ref
There's just way too many under 1 key, as well as 1 key is not a common sale point anymore.
I think this needs a more conservative bump at the moment.
How would you feel if you had bought one at 1 key? High end is supported by many sales and sellers as well as the low end, from my point of view, suggested range is fine.
There is a whole page in classifieds under a key, and the scm price is like $1.50. When you posted this suggestion 1 key may have been the common trading point, but I think the loch balance change may have killed some of the hype for it.
I think suggested range is fine, i couldn't find a SINGLE seller below 9 ref and I've seen plenty of 1 key sellers, and solds at 1 key. I don't think the change of stats affected the hype either, as it didn't change the high damage stuff which muselk was saying is awesome
While I do agree that this range may not be the most accurate, I think it bette represents the market than the current range.
1 key is just the high end price, and with a coupla good sells at 1 key, it should stay as the high point
I sold 3 on outpost for 11 ref in under 90 minutes
awesome
Just sold my last one a minute ago. That makes 4 at 11 over the course of a day.
that may be just because there are quite a few on classifieds at 9.66 or 10, so yours took a long time to be the cheapest price or something
No plz, Me no likey, I dun want
close this already
Why should I? I have a point
Indeed. 10 Days is quite long for a suggestion. well, your proof is enough to convince me. Upvote, mate.
I've seen suggestions standing for 20 days
SCM prices have skyrocketed as of today. Has Santa Gaben saved this suggestion?
na. The scm is unreliable atm, regardless of whether or not the trade market has influenced it or not. People are cashing out for games and money, hence why buds have fallen, yadda yadda all that fun stuff (not really if you dont like that sort of stuff :l). But there has definitely been increase in the price of a loch n load that is strange. (vintages too!).
ill just downvote
I could careless
for no reason? GG
Hell no
This weapon is not so rare it cost like 1 key
Just no, no
K, don't bother looking at the proof or anything.
$7 backpack
How does your multiplier reach 1 key?
with rep points, example: my bp is worth 10 buds, but I can vote up to 47 buds suggestions
I see
Most likely rising due to the demo changes. Good suggestion.
sold mine for 1 key even today.
Upvote from me.
Why it takes so long?
cmon just lower the price
I bought a Spec Killstreak loch'n'load some time ago for 1 key, right before Muselk's video I think. Lucky me :D
This is probably the longest suggestion I've seen.
Then you haven't been here for so long
True, true.
Sold a second one for a key. That's 2 now.
Is this ever going to get accepted?
Nope.avi