Suggestion: The Kringle Collection at 0.5–1 keys

Price Suggestion

~2.44 ref

2682 votes up

1688 votes down

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This suggestion was marked as bad evidence and closed Tue, 30 Dec 14 07:00:06 +0000 by Puddilicious.

There should always be enough evidence to back up the new proposed value. However, it appears that the evidence is not strong enough, or cherry-picked in a way that does not represent the actual market value of the item. Therefore, this suggestion has been closed.

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Hello, how’s everybody going? today I will try to raise the price of this lovely item. Im still learning how to do good suggestions so any tips or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks and hopefully I did things right. More solds will be added on as I find more. Welp here goes:

Solds at a key:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23701015 - SOLD x5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23977171 - SOLD x4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24030658 - SOLD x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24006662 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24057871 - SOLD

Solds at 8.33 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23892447 - SOLD

Solds at 8.00 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24032610 - SOLD x2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24042672 - SOLD x3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24188806 - SOLD

Solds at 7.33 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23937459 - SOLD x5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24037216 - SOLD

Solds at 7.00 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24054110 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24057375 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24118959 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23991236 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24041191 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24145702 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24064977 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23985123 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23936382 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24031933 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24018917 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24057375 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23991407 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23612566 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24031983 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21617523 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22951382 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24188957 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24036818 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23937459 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24189687 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23936382 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24034046 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24065787 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24051186 - SOLD

Quicksolds under 7.00 ref:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24043122 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23993494 - SOLD

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23883608 - SOLD X 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24043122 - SOLD

thats really odd, how is that possible, could u explain?, one says its been sold to another while the other says its still kept by its original owner and yet they have the same Craft number

They're both different items. If you check their item IDs and compare them, you can see if they are the same or different item listed. Also, the second one sold.

ah i see, thanks for clearing that up for me, also would that guy who said it was relisted be wrong?

yes, but enjoy the extra 7ref sold anyways http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24222736

(I assume it's ok as proof here since it sold at 7ref, even though it's gifted)

I wouldn't say completely wrong. Yes, the same kind of item was listed in another trade, but they were two different types in terms of ID where both of them sold for different prices.

alright, that makes much more sense now

ooh awkward, didn't notice that

oh ok thanks :)

7 ref looks like a quicksell to me :P

So would that be a good thing or not?

edit: if there are alot of sales at 7 ref, shouldn't it be within the range?

If it sells within a day, then it would be a quicksell, I believe. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong.

seems like a very common trading point, so yes

If they're quicksells, I don't think so.

So could someone please tell me with confidence whether 7 ref is a quicksell or not? and whether it should stay in the new range

edit: if it is a quicksell, what would be a suitable range for the item with the sales i listed?

What's happened here is the same as a few other items (loch-n-load, hashashin) where it's easy to buy at half a key but also sells at a key. Range isn't too horrible.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/548f7a76b98d888e708b47a8

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54850183b98d88c7498b4fbb

You know it should go up when the item is getting sold for twice its normal price.

Upvote I guess

thanks for your kind comment :D

Did all the 7 ref ones quicksell?

I can confirm that I did actually sell two each for a key. Personally, I have no issue with the range. It's like the dashin and s loch n load. Lots of sellers at 7 ref, but for the sake of convenience, a lot of people pay a key. But I'll let another mod take a look. There are probably more sales happening at 7 ref than any other price

Thanks :D, your solds really helped me out

here my trades at bazaar.tf

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1147104 sold 7 at 8 ref each

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1139977 sold 10 at 8 ref each

thank you so much, also are the 2+2=??? that was selling the bunch of kringles on tfop?

i got mine for 6refined ._. wow i got lucky

Perhaps you got it before it was 7 ref or maybe the person was quickselling it?

A few seem quicksold and a few badly bumped ones. Not bad but I dunno how to reply (MagicKarp.exe is not working, please standby for random garbage to happen)

Neutral I spose for now

Um, im not sure if they have to be bumped up extremely well, Im pretty sure u only apply that to suggestions that lower prices because when u are dealing with suggestions that raise prices u just look at how many have sold and not necessarily how well the trade has been bumped

I guess, but dat huge range doe :3

Yeh, had to, it sells for twice its price XD

Oh well, despite the huge range, not bad. Upvote

Not the best range, but there's a good amount of proof. Upvote.

thanks for the good comment, I did have trouble making a range considering that the item sold for twice its usual price.

Good enough, cheers. Upvote.

thanks and merry smissmas :D

Its easy to find it for less than 7 ref. Look for example at classified. New suggestion should be in ref not in keys. Thanks.

yeh but then there are also solds at a key, and if i used ref to represent a key it would be outdated very quickly as keys are always changing so thats why i used keys instead

edit: also you are right about using ref as keys rise 0.5 keys would also change, now i wished it was possible to do 7ref-1key but unfortunately it can only either be in keys or ref or buds and not a combination of any

5 pages in the classifieds for less than 1 key should mean that 1 key is most likely an outlier

Dat range tho. Upvote i suppose.

You own one :(

Sold for a key:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24024485#latest

http://backpack.tf/item/3262864882 - History of Kringle

whoa did u check the classifieds? those mean everything really, downvote sorry, a lot of proff but still the classies mann

those are like 7 ref quicksell but upvote I guess

Just to tell you from what I've heard (Might be wrong but seems logical) Quicksells do not affect the pricing of items. I assume this is correct because the person is in need of a couple of ref for something they really want and they sell cheap so they can buy.

Goodluck with getting this through and merry Christmas (Upvote from me)

Range is really ''wide'' . You should do this suggestion again in ref or just at one key . And because the trade is completed doesn't say all items or sold . for example , the last on of solds at a key , still in backpack .

The hype is gone and so should this shenanegan. Downvote

.5 keys =/= 7 refined

Ugly range , but ill upvote .

A bunch of sellers at 7 ref or less.

Sold mine for 6.33

DOWNVOTE

You just sound salty. Take a look at polar's comment.

Nice proof. Upvote

Sorry, but there's quite a number unsold between 6- 6.33 that have been bumbed multiple times. More specifically in the classifieds because Im banned on outpost. Going above 7 seems weird.

Not sure how I feel about this price bump, I got mine for 7 ref just yesterday. Staying Neutral.

http://imgur.com/IhjH6S2

NO EVIDENCE MUST VOTE NO

Uhm maybe u should take a look at the top of the page........

Edit: I accidentally posted this twice

Uhm maybe u should take a look at the top of the page........

You could've requested a ban instead.

I'm afraid you are the one getting the ban XD

downvote, no evidence

Christmas hype is dying out, it's going to start dropping now.

I'm for it.

I can clearly say that 7 ref is enough or more than enough. I've been selling 4 of them for 6.66 ref each and today I sold second Kringle (it took 3 days). Maybe I had a "bad" days...

//EDIT Yeah, bad days. The rest of them got sold within 15 mins after posting here. :D

That's a hell of a price range XD

Still upvote

I mean, it would make sence for christmas, but christmas already pass

It doesn't really matter what time of the year it is as long as the evidence is valid to show that the item is sold for higher

Plenty of classifieds below 7 ref, and even more at 7 ref. The price shouldn't be higher than 7 ref.

Those would be considered quick sells and quick sells can't be used as legit evidence unless you are planning to lower it

But if two were bumped 7 days ago and are priced at 7 ref then surely the price can't be higher than 7 ref.

Um it should be fine as 1 week isn't too old

but surely 3+ days means not a quicksell? I am fairly new to pricing items and I don't understand how a price can be a few ref higher than 7 ref if it is buy-able at 7 ref from like 30 different people.

Your evidence is very good. Well done! This item should be raised; it is beong sold two times more than its worth

Thank very much :)

Because of how the value of a key is changing all the time I think the suggestion of this will be difficult to work. Although you have good evidence if this was is actual price it could be between 9 and 18ref which is a massive difference for someone to know what to sell it for

Upvote, yes plz

Sorry, what kind of hater dislikes this kind of comment? Grow up, pal

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24345821

unsold :/ more comming :D

just saying that this suggestion was started before the christmas update so maybe some kind of christmas hype encouraged buyers for key. thing is when you look on classifieds there are 3 pages of them for 7.33 ref or less. therefore if every sale at 1 key is balanced by one or two available at 7 ref that means people would be stupid (yes, they often are) to buy at 1 key. also your range goes from 7 ref to 1 key but sales actually happen from 7-8 ref then huge empty range and then 1 key. if this suggestion got accepted 7 days ago it would be fine. but at this moment range seems inapropriate

This suggestion is overdue to be closed or accepted :/

Hype is ded.

A lot of listings at 7 - 8 ref, like some people said: "If the suggestion would have been accepted before Christmas it all would have been fine, right now the hype is over and this suggestion is out-dated"

You Are Trying To Raise The Value Of Your Own Item. Down Vote.

This seems a bit outdated now.

Classies have a page of 6-7, 2 pages of 7-7.66ish, and then 2 pages of 1 key... Outpost seems to be similar.

Trade.tf price is 6.77.

Eh.