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It's ya boy Mike Hawk and his first currency suggestion.
Sorry for breaking the unusual market
Classifieds is FULL of 13 key sellers, about 4 pages
The majority of these are probably young, but thats because buds are seriously fluctuating and dropping, so I personally think young would be best but i'll provide the best mixture I can.
One more thing everyone, how about we don't panic sell because of this suggestion, and keep it constant at 13 keys? ;)
UNSOLDS >13 KEYS
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23215479 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23401420 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24338458 17
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24327574 17
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23963283 17
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24302346 17
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346214 16
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24345152 16
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22400300 16
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24338183 16
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24164708 16
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24343406 16
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24332178 16
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24347797 15.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24347559 15
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24341944 15
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24338068 14 + a tod
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24326788 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24343447 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24342246 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24331776 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24336504 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24343897 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346962 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24347884 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346922 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24325071 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24342607 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24342808 14
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24343903 14
SELLERS AT 13 KEYS
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24339912
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24347158
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24345199
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24342597
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346346
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21767448
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346281
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24344421
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24347733
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24347059
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346724
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24347406
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346797
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13168732
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346832
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24343050
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24347279
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24341828
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24344568
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346574
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20033620
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24346206
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24344977
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24342905
Finding more proof as you're reading this :)
Any help is appreciated!
A ton of your sellers are less than two hours old AND never been bumped. Also, your 14 key links have serious activity. Furthermore, why even include 17+ suggestions?
Like I said, the majority of sellers at 14 just came out because of the huge drop in buds after the dead cat bounce. Give it a while and they'll most likely remain unsold.
Buds were 14+ earlier today, so he has to use young sellers at 13. If the market does not change and buds stay at 13 keys, this suggestion is fine. If buds drop further, then this suggestion will not pass regardless of young sellers.
This won't get accepted till Puddington sells his Buds for profit.
Tru.
Not sure if troll or not but a day ago I sold over 60+ for 17-18 keys even long before the bud suggestion was accepted, not to mention there were many bud suggestions which had a decent amount of proof. Proof needs to be pre-existing and the market shifts fast it's dropping because everyone realised the rise and entered the market and all the cheap untradable buds from a week ago on scm are now tradable. and they continually undercut each other
If you had noticed that last bud suggestion puddington added on 20 sales and there were multiple bud suggestions open at the time with proof so because the market was changing so fast he simply accepted the one which fit the range best based off his on sales, trades open at the time and proof from other suggestions.
I won't argue with people like you, if Puddington is a saint, then he should pass this within a few hours, like he accepted that shitty suggestion that had over 50% negative votes within a few hours ignoring the cooldown rule. Did the buds needed a push up urgently? Ok, I get that, but right now, they urgently need a push down, but he won't accept it since he still have buds to resell.
shhh don't let puddington see this he'll ban you
Really hope buds stabilizes soon.
Not with Puddington in charge.
Looking at the proof I believe I have roughly 20 different links from 20 different people..
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Earbuds
I counted ~10 different people on the first page selling at 13 keys or less (no gifted). So it's not just me buddy. I just happen to own a TON of buds and can flood classifieds if I want to. Plus the links on Outpost are all different people selling at 13 or less. Believe me, I want buds to go up (I've kept a large amount of buds without doing anything for almost a year or more), but when people start panicking and selling low after an increase, I think it's best that I get out with what I can. Sure, I might be the bigger name on classifieds that is contributing to a price drop, but there are plenty of other big-name sellers (including Puddington himself now lol) at 13.
EDIT: Classy delete-post-when-you-realize-you-are-wrong lol.
Stop misleading people. Puddington isn't selling for tf2 keys. Thanks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21767448
How ignorant can you be? Lol. Clearly says "Price: 13 Mann Co Key each / 13 CS:GO keys each (any CS:GO key) / 11 Treasure Keys each" as of posting.
i don't agree to drop the buds again the unusual market is being destroyed and a crap tone of people are osing to many mone why we wont stabalize the price at 15-16 keys i sod a bud in less of 12 min that i got it for a 1.1 bud =16~17 keys and if the buds drop at 13key's people think that be buds then are gana drop to 12 keys so they quicksell them and they esely become 12 keys then they go to 11 keys the price that they had til erlier yesterday and then the unusual market is gana reduce people will loos money i arledy lost $20 somthing about that and the last thing if the bud's are going to drop again they are gana drop an other time becaus epeople will tray to get keys so the quick sell and don't lose money but at the and some people will lose money just like me so we shall stabalise them just like this price
That hurt to read.
Sorry bud, Just how the market is going.
You are gonna need to throw in a lot more proof than that.
Honestly, he's probably not going to need more than this..
Agreed. Lots of proof is nice, but when it's clear that buds are now 13 keys (4 pages of classifieds), this amount is fine.
Pretty much.
Well, I'm still looking for more proof anyways!
just when you thought they were rising, upvote
Upvoting, 13 seems to be the best range here. It's taken me a while to sell some at 13, however, 12 quicksells.
this was accepted with the worst proof i ever seen... so, why not
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/549dcc53b98d88b63c8b4c38
That was accepted because the admin who accepted it wanted profit, so he manipulated the market on his favor to get profit from his buds, he had over 90 buds btw.
Is that admin Puddington and what happened to him he clearly manipulated the market and gave backpack a blow against it's reputation
yes it was puddington. nothing will happen to him...
So because of him these buds won't change as he can just close this any time
HOW in the hell that pricing pass with a 64% downvote and basically every comment says "not enough proof", "downvote" and "mind the cooldown"??? Seems like people just follow whats on classifieds...and OP adjusts their prices with classifieds...
Exactly a lot of people out there worship price list like its a god so one greedy scumbag can accept one dumb suggestion and then there you have it. People panic buy and then some people make a lot of money. But the majority of people just loose money. A day later we find out it was a dead cat. When the dust sets people will look for someone to blame and i believe that person is Puddington.
so shouldnt this site be classifieds.tf then??? Since that seems to be the driving force and main pricing reference for everyone and on OP. Its funny that people use OP links as proof (which dont get me wrong are very valid) but most of them are just following to the pricing on classifieds since that is the most live trading visually available.
I'd trust classifieds over what a few people get together and agree the price should be for everyone else.
and apparently just showing off a few dozen sold between 20 traders determines the price range for the other thousands of traders in the TF2 community. Its pretty easy to manipulate the classifieds. (messages friend) - "Hey want to buy ALL 50 buds on classifieds that are 17 keys and lower and that way everyone thinks buds are skyrocketing and we can sell them for 19+ later and make massive profit since everyone just jumps on the classifieds pricing bandwagon!" :D
sure there's manipulation. Just like there's manipulation when an admin has to approve price suggestions here in the forum. Just like there's manipulation on the real stock markets around the world. So what? I'd still trust actual market forces than a bunch of people sitting around making price suggestions and an admin then picking and choosing which suggestion to approve.
I just dont like the fact how much power the classifieds have and how easy it is to manipulate since it is the only place (other than maybe the community market but even thats skewed cuz of 13% steam takes from sales) that is live and up to date. All it takes is a few people with lots of pure and authority to just buy up any and all buds under say....17 keys. If they do it long enough, everyone joins the hype train and see that the cheapest bud is 17 keys...then the suggestions move in and get insta-passed...
Ayy, lmao, Buds go down, then up again, and now they go down again
Anyways, upvote
Thing is, Festives will be tradable soon. I wonder if this is causing a second crash
In sorry to say but the classifieds is just the same 4 or so people selling. Even then they most likely bought at around 10 keys and can drop a key to make sure they stay first. Lots of proof I'm gonna stay neutral.
Plenty have sold for 14 today, enough to keep that in range. Remeber, this is range, not cheapest price around..
13 keys is the common range on classifieds and OP. Upvote.
i don't agree to drop the buds again the unusual market is being destroyed and a crap tone of people are osing to many mone why we wont stabalize the price at 15-16 keys i sod a bud in less of 12 min that i got it for a 1.1 bud =16~17 keys and if the buds drop at 13key's people think that be buds then are gana drop to 12 keys so they quicksell them and they esely become 12 keys then they go to 11 keys the price that they had til erlier yesterday and then the unusual market is gana reduce people will loos money i arledy lost $20 somthing about that and the last thing if the bud's are going to drop again they are gana drop an other time becaus epeople will tray to get keys so the quick sell and don't lose money but at the and some people will lose money just like me so we shall stabalise them just like this price
People keep undercutting and leaving their classifieds/trades up when they're sold or offline so people will keep undercutting, except they won't undercut keys. TBH if buds drop under 10 the unusual market will prob switch to keys or tf2 trading is dead, luckily I'm cashing out.
I like your proof boy. upvote ;)
I sold 3 today for 13 it was not that quick so I agree with this suggestion but not the other two.
As much as this suggestion is accurate, cooldown really needs to be in effect for these sudden jumps in prices. Looks like 13 is a stable price for now
Dropping by greater than 2 keys, so cool down isn't in effect :)
Puddington went against the cooldown and jacked the price up.
And there is a rule that can revolt against a latest change in price of currency without cooldown.
So, no cooldown is necessary.
Buds are still easy sells at 13. Almost a quicksell. They sell for 14 too. 13-14 is the proper range imo
needs more unsolds at 15 keys
Hey guys! I am here to tell everyone a secret on how to bring the buds up.
Let's say the buds are 15 keys on bp.tf, everyone has to sell theirs above bp.tf and they can not quicksell. If they quicksell it brings this whole trick to the dump. After not being able to find any keys at 15 keys they will strat buying above bp.tf price. When that happens buds will go up, so people sell higher than bp.tf price and not quicksell. This will repeat again and again just like what happened with the keys. A brain is required to know what I'm trying to say
You can't force people to sell them under 15 keys. What are you, Nazi Germany?
Sigh* can't believe people cant believe people cant read anymore. (also i typed in a brain is required to know what im trying o say, funny right? you don't have one) What I was saying is to sell buds higher than bp.tf price and if no one can find any buds under bp.tf or above bp.tf then the price will be forced to rise. Also Nazi Germany was the name of Germany under the rule of Hitler and the NSDAP, Nazi Germany was Germany, not Hitler or any of his commanders/generals/lieutenants. (Did I mention you needed a brain to know what I was trying to say on my first comment? Well you're going to need one for this also, good luck Einstein. Also, you're welcome for the history lesson, you ignorant teens need them.
apparently you dont proof read any of your posts since it hurt my brain trying to understand your broken English and repeating words and phrases over and over. Although what you are saying does make sense, it is impossible unless you want to contact every person that owns buds to sell them for 15+ keys and to NEVER sell for less. The fact is right now some people with buds want keys so they can unbox, buy new end of the line things and buy games etc. Its not as easy as telling everyone to just sell for more than bp.tf price since they can do what they want with their buds. Much like keys...people complain about them going up seemingly non-stop...theres only one way to stop it, and thats to tell people to stop buying them for more than they are worth on bp.tf. but thats impossible since keys will always be in demand and ref is infinite. Much like buds...unless you can convince people to stop selling for less, its not going to stop.
sold 4 today for 13 keys took while with it on outpost, bazaar, and bp.tf i say upvote
hey man theres also proof in the backpack.tf sales, check all the offers for 12.5 keys too
Your 17th unsold link is mine. Sold both, one for 14 keys yesterday, but im guessing that was a fluke because the other took forever to sell for 13 even after i aggressively tried to sell by jumping servers for more than 2 hours and browsing outpost, and bazaar. Upvote.
You really think this will pass? Puddington needs to sell his buds first!
i bought a pair of buds for 15 keys and tryed to selll it for 12 for 7 hours -_-
Upboat
DOESNT EVERYBODY SEE ALREADY THE MARKET JUST CRASHED BACKPACK.TF IS LYING ABOUT THE PRICES WTF]
i got that out of my system.