Suggestion: Blizzardy Storm Virtual Viewfinder at 120–150 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24073705 Sold for o. fire exec (outdated 4.55) + anti-freeze trilby (suggestion active at 7.5, I think) + p. energy hoodie (outdated at 3.7) back when buds were 11ish~ keys. So this would work with your 150 keys.

Suggestions: 120 - 150 keys.

Suggested with key currencies as more proof with keys than with buds.

Another sold for 128 keys:

- http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197988330806?time=1421049600

- http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197988330806?time=1420790400

Buds would've been a better currency.

A 10 bud hat should be in buds, not keys.

Idk where 150 keys came from, but 120-130 should be fine.

I have use recommandation to put a high-end sligly higher than sold to have a range. But to be honest it's not clear yet what is "sligly"

You can't just make up either end of the range. Resuggest it at 120-130, and if would be fine.

If it was sold for keys, you are definitely allowed to price it in keys.

True, but it's still ugly, and it'd be easy to convert it into keys.

Also. where is 150 keys from..

That's not the point. The point of pricing it in keys is so if buds do ever so happen to fall again, the hat value technically will go up. If buds go up, the hat will decrease. It's a gamble.

Everything else has been reported in buds, despite some being sold it keys.

He's converted buds into keys, whereas he should've honestly done the opposite.

Most sellers are looking for buds, and I'm sure the keys would've been taken at the equivalent.

Please show me the bud sales. Not that it matters. He can price is in whatever currency he wants, if he wants to do keys, he can do keys. Not everything has to be in the same format.

High end is based on a hat sale, not a key sale. That alone is reason enough to not price this in keys.

Where is said 150 key item sale? If you're talking about this one( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24073705 ) There was a B/O of ~130 keys. http://i.imgur.com/EWNm3nE.png <- from here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24497085

I'm not supporting this suggestion, I'm supporting the fact that pricing an item in keys is allowed.

Can you help me to understand why you don't support this suggestion.

Most of ppl seems to have two problem with this suggestion:

- estimated in key (easy to fix if I need to ressugest)

- Hi-end should be 130 keys.

Do I have to fix anything else ? (proof ? link ? etc ??? )

This is my first unusual suggestion and my "first" proofed suggestion (my other two was error when I was young)

Your high end is unsupported. If you're using Flutterslut's ~150 sale, you cannot since she stated in another trade that she was looking for ~130 for it. So, after overpay, the sale was ~150 but had a B/O of 130. Sales cannot be used as proof to increase a price past the sellers B/O if he had one. In this case, she did have one. If this were to be resuggested at 120-130, personally, I'd be perfectly fine with it. Originally, due to shitty resolution on the screen I was on, I thought it did say 120-130.

Oh, but the princess have two different trade listed here for two different hat.

- One have a B/O of 130 (and is unsold)

- The other one have been sold for ~150 keys

Again, it had a 130 key buy out which she mentioned in another trade. http://i.imgur.com/EWNm3nE.png <- from here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24497085 Under the first offer.

Again, this is not the same hat.

The 130 keys B/O is for the hat with original ID: 2586425930

The 150 keys is for another hat (with original ID: 2124993128 )

One have been sold, the other not yet. I know it's perturbing to have the same hat sold by the same person on the proof, but this is two different trade and two different offer.

"I sold my last one for ~130, but I WAS AIMING FOR 150" It's a B/O of past tense.

Oh, ok, my bad english fault....

Ok if this one is not revoted I will resugest (in buds ...) with 120-130

I'm gonna be honest with you. Since it has as many comments as it does, mods probably aren't going to pass it until it reaches around 15 days. Then, you'll have to resuggest it and have to re-read all of this so you can remember what to resuggest. The sooner you resuggest it, the sooner it will get accepted. If you wait to resuggest, you could be waiting 3-4 weeks.

I'm not in a hurry for estimate. And with 4 more week I will probably have more proof.

You don't seem to understand. I don't even know why I try to help people anymore, they just argue with me.

First, I really enjoy your help on this suggestion and on the previous one.

I'm sorry you think I argue with you, but I'm new to suggestion and want to understand how to do it correctly.

As part of this learning curve, I think I will let this suggestion "finish" to better understand how everything work (when someone give you directly the correct answer you don't learn a lot). At this point, I don't understand why a suggestion with comment will take 15 days, when one without take less. (Should I not reply to any comments ?)

Again, thank you for your advice.

"but I'm new to suggestion and want to understand how to do it correctly."

This is why I was commenting, buy again, people just argue with me in general. I'm not directing this to you. Another thing that bugs the crap out of me is when people tell me to read, and they can't speak fluent English themselves. Again, not directing this to you.

Most seller for this hat have trade them in key.

I have even a B/O in key.

Why try to convert in bud, when seller and buyer use key instead ?

I was hoping to get 130 keys to move it quickly, but since I've not had any takers in 2 weeks I think that's pretty moot :p

I also hope you will take my offer ;)

I'm not sure 1 sale without pure would overcome a sale at 130 in pure. Along with another unsold at 130. Still going to have to stick with 120-130. That, and your B/O was 130 which would null out the other ~25 keys. http://i.imgur.com/EWNm3nE.png <- from here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24497085 Under the first offer.

Yes, that's a valid point.

I really don't wanna be that guy but is the only reason you're attempting to drop this is because you wanted it yet there's no real valid sellers willing to take offers of less than a certain amount...?

Idk i find it quite strange how you happen to be the one to make a suggestion about a Blizz Viewfinder right before you offer on my trade.

Anyways, if the mod finds enough proof to drop it, they're welcome to accept it if the proof's there.

Yes and no.

I suggest this price drop, because this is the price I have found when searching to buy my hat.

The princess have a B/O of 130 keys pure, I just don't have them. If had 130 keys, I will became another "proof" of this range.

This is now unsold for 3 weeks at 130, so that confirm the 120-130 range.

PS: My first offer on your hat was 3 days ago and this suggestion only 1 days.

I also have offers on pretty all viewfinder to sell :D I'm probably just the guy who look the more the viewfinder trade nowaday (current and past). So, with an outdated price I have take the opportunity to share this knowledge.

high-end based off a sale containing outdated unusuals?

Yes, my high-end is probablu to high. look like the 120-130 is a better range

you can always re-suggest

First of all, please price this in buds. It is ridiculous to price hats of such value in keys.

Now to your proof.

1. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24497085 Princess has sold it for 106 keys + DBD Electric Escorter(1.1 buds * 0.9 = ~1 bud) + ~1.7 keys in sweets as shown here http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198034183306?time=1421175231

This sale will come out to be ~8.2 buds

2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24460798 Sold for 103 keys as shown here http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197988330806?time=1421049600 . Making this ~6.9 buds. (Outlier)

3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24387966 This sale that you mentioned was actually sold for 6 buds + 26 keys pure (Sold in 2 days. Calling this a quicksale). Making this ~7.8 buds. (Quicksale)

4. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22443324 Sold for 120 keys (~9.6 buds) This is not a quicksale if he has been selling it for a few months.

5. Regarding princess's sale http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24073705 , I would call that an outlier with her willing to sell for 130 keys for the one she got more recently. (~9 buds) which she ultimately sold for 8.2 buds.

With all those said, please resuggest at a range of 8.2-9.6 buds. Thanks.

Closing this.