Suggestion: Ghastly Ghosts Jr War Pig at 121.8–134.85 keys

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~470 keys

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Resubmitting due to furthur sales:

Sale 1:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24188836#latest

Sold for 5 buds + Stormy Storm villain's veil (4.8)

5 + 4.8 (0.9)

5+ 4.32 =

9.32 rounded down to

9.3 buds

Proof: http://postimg.org/image/fi1vxiafp/

Sale 2:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24440926

backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198038666068?time=1420358400

backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198038666068?time=1420531200

1:1 with a lucky shot morning glory

9.3 x 0.9 =8.37 rounded up to

8.4 buds

Sale 3:

backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198158937442?time=1420358400

backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198158937442?time=1420444800

1:1 with a time warp Towering pile of hats (7.75)

7.75 x 0.9 = 6.975 rounded up to

7 buds

Sale 4:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23998945#latest

Warpig + a bud sold for a vintage Tyrolean vivid Plasma (3) + Blighted Beak Searing Plasma (4.55)

Warpig was offered on the above unusuals thus no overplay calculated

x + 1 = 7.55

x = 6.55

x= 6.6

Proof: http://postimg.org/image/z1mar39mr/

Taking sale 3 and 4 as outliers thus range 8.4-9.3

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Mini on lucky shot morning glory:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24395199

backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198107536486?time=1419926400

backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198107536486?time=1420099200

Sold for a harvest moon drill hat (9.2) + 1 bud

(9,2)0.9 + 1 = 9.3 buds

The Morning Glory Lucky Shot also sold for 11.8 in items (Demonflame Samur-Eye + Nuts & Bolts HWNN + 1.5 in items) which after adding overpay is 10.62. maybe you should add that for the Lucky Shot mini and re-suggest.

Samur-eye is outdated, and even if it wasn't, if I were to take an average of both the luck shot's sales it would still fall in this range after overpay calculation.

I am pretty sure an average is the two numbers added together then divided by 2. That would be 20.1 divided by 2 which is 10.05 for the Lucky Shot.

10.05 x 0.9 = 9.45 and that's not including the outdated price of the samur-eye. Second time you posted on this suggestion, I understand you own one but stop trying to manipulate it's price to be higher. There are 2 sales at close to 7 buds that are being ignored.

Your first calculation is not needed. Overpay was already included, as it sold for 11.8, and the overpay made it 10.62. You should really consider this sale as having one sale at 9.3 for the Lucky Shot when it has been sold recently is not very good.

You obviously have not read the rules and have no idea how unusuals are priced. The first overpay is for the mini, the other is for the actual warpig sale. As I said before, please stop trying to manipulate the price. Oh and feel free to post a screenshot of the samur-eye trade because from what I've found there's no evidence of the '1.5' buds in items.

http://puu.sh/eeJYZ/931c6c2317.png

Image of the trade. There were some strange parts on things, so look it in my inventory history on backpack. I have looked over the rules and "How to make a price suggestion" posts, and I did not find anything about needing to apply double overpay to minis, so if you could provide me a link to where that is at I would like that.

Just look at other accepted suggestions. When making a mini you still calculate overpay and treat it as any other sale. Feel free to list those items in your 'proof' with the current backpack price next to them so we can see how much they add up to 1.5 buds. Also from my recent mini on the samur-eye it sold for 6.8 buds recent after overpay, will edit it in here shortly.

Mini for your samur-eye

backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035446591?time=1416470400

backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035446591?time=1416643200

Sold for a massed fliez fez, haunted ghosts bubble pipe + 4 keys + bud

haunted ghosts (3.6 - current updated suggestion)+ fez 2.5 + 1.3

0.9 (3.6 +2.5) + 1.3

6.8 buds

Fez:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22679651 2.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24516115 2.5

two 2.5 buds 'quicksells', one has been over 2 months so It can be taken as the high end.

Oh and here is a recently accepted price change showing overpay calculation on mini suggestion:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54adf994ba8d88f9338b5597

You claimed that applying double overpay was within the rules. I could not see it anywhere, and you should really give proof to that as it seems at the moment it is not needed.

I just provided you with proof above. And as I said a mini follows the same rules as a regular suggestion and thus overpay is calculated on it if applicable. Feel free to ask an admin or moderator about it. Please stop pulling at straws. Also with my mini on your samur-eye it would again fall in my range even without overpay in the mini. Here you go: Samur-eye: 7.4 + 1.5 +1 = 9.9 buds. Then calculating overpay for the ACTUAL sale = 8.9 buds, and this is assuming that everything you want is considered even though I don't believe those items are worth 1.5 buds ( and you have yet to give me the prices) and I'm not calculating overpay in the mini.

Oh and here more proof that overpay is calculated in the minis:

http://backpack.tf/vote/details/5493fcf4b98d88ab0e8b488f

http://backpack.tf/vote/details/5493f80bba8d88a8278b48ee

Overpay is calculated, but not twice. I already calculated on my previous comment, but you are doubling the overpay. I am not pulling at straws, I am informing you of a huge error where you are applying twice the overpay.

And I'm informing you that you didn't even bother to read my last post as I didn't calculate overpay after updating the samur-eye price and it is still less EVEN THOUGH you're meant to calculate overpay. Now if you want to manipulate furthur feel free to counter suggest and get shot down. I'm not wasting my time anymore arguing here you've got all the evidence above feel free to be bothered and read through it and HOPEFULLY understand it.

Please read back at the comments. Notice when I said that the Lucky Shot sold for 11.8, I then applied overpay which is 10.6, but you kept applying overpay to the 10.6. That is a huge error, and I was correcting you on that, but instead you have not bothered to mention your error and instead accuse me of manipulation.

No I'm accusing you of being an idiot who isn't bothering to understand my above posts. Your 11.8 price is using outdated prices on the samur-eye a 9 months old price. Anything more than 3 months is considered outdated and can not be used unless a mini is performed. If you bothered you read I made a mini on the samur-eye also using hats that are actually priced as quite a few sales recently have been with other 2013 Holloween effects. I'm going to just copy and paste it again here, hoping that you actually bother to read this.

Mini for your samur-eye

backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035446591?time=1416470400

backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035446591?time=1416643200

Sold for a massed fliez fez, haunted ghosts bubble pipe + 4 keys + bud

haunted ghosts (3.6 - current updated suggestion)+ fez 2.5 + 1.3

0.9 (3.6 +2.5) + 1.3

6.8 buds

Fez:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22679651 2.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24516115 2.5

two 2.5 buds 'quicksells', one has been over 2 months so It can be taken as the high end.

I am not focusing on the fact that the Samur-Eye is outdated, I am focusing on the fact that you made a mistake previously (before giving proof of the Samur-Eyes recent sales) where you applied overpay twice. Calling me an idiot is very rude, and uncalled for. I am pointing out your mistake and you are just ignoring it and insulting me.

"I am pretty sure an average is the two numbers added together then divided by 2. That would be 20.1 divided by 2 which is 10.05 for the Lucky Shot" you said that.

10.05 x 0.9 = 9 buds

AND that overpay is calculated for the 1:1 trade of the Warpig. You're just not understanding the numbers above and the explanation behind them. What I find rude is that I'm wasting my time repeating myself to someone who's trying his best to manipulate the price of his unusual.

You are again ignoring your own mistake. I reported your rude comment on me being an "idiot" and I finished talking about this. Let this suggestion go through, I really don't care at this point, but don't go around calling people "idiot" for pointing out your mistakes.

And again you're ignoring that there is no mistake, feel free to post my comment where the mistake occured. And if there's one thing that ticks me off it's manipulators who just keep insisting they're right.

Bring popcorn before you read the comments. Upvote.

Thanks, I had got tired of repeating myself :p