Price Suggestion
Pyro's Boron Beanie
Submitted by fanta
~1.94 ref
Unique Pyro's Boron Beanie
132 votes up
58 votes down
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Buyer at 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24565141


Sellers at 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24467673

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24629527 - young autobumped


Feedback is appreciated!

    I think you should read how to make a suggestion...


    Because, you need proof of something sold to pretend a price, not seller ou buyer, it didn't prove anything that this hat worth this price.

      Did you really just tell that to a green belt...


      Also this is valid proof. If someone is willing to buy higher, the price should go up

        No, maybe i shouldn't explain it clairly.


        You can't up a price because people want to buy this for this price. The item itself didn't sold and it didn't prove to be this price. Read other suggestions, don't complain about my post, please, i'm trying to help you there.

          Yes, you can. Read other suggestions.

          I have over 50 accepted suggestions.....

            If your suggestions did all pass and the price is accepted, i blame backpack.tf for blindvote...


            How possibly can you pretend a price that people want / are trying to selling if they didn't sold it ?


            Oh, i know. Maybe i should try to sell a bud for 100 keys, maybe they will pick my trade up, and post it as a proof, as buds will rise, that's a good point out there.

            If your sellers and your buyers sold/bought this item, they will ( as i think ) count as proof to support your range. Don't be so kiddish...

              http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54b476dfba8d88ee7e8b45fe

              http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54b1fae7b88d889c5b8b5cc0

              http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54b1fe36ba8d888e478b5576


              How did this get accepted then?


              Oh I know, please stop spreading misinformation

              Voting doesnt change if anything gets accepted. Moderators control acception....


              Please read how to make a suggestion

                Alright, its accepted because :


                first link is sold ( see the trade history ? the seller got his ref, the buy got the item ).

                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24556711 this link isn't valid, thought.

                the buyer at 3.77 isn't valid, but in one week, he could sold it, but it isn't valid if i pick up as a exemple.


                But, if you saw commenters, one of them is interesting :

                The 3 ref seller has sold his already within 8 hours. It's a quicksell, but it supports the range.

                Also, I checked your last 3 sellers' backpacks. None of them have sold yet. Keep an eye on them, but since they are poorly bumped/unbumped, I doubt they will sell soon.


                Actually, with one link and a small market, you can support the proof of changing a range, without changing the lower or the upper price.

                For exemple, if one of your link, prove a sold, i will up vote, because 1.22 is still in the range, and we didn't have any counter proof to that, its still possible to find it for 1.22 but 1.33 is proved as a price to be sold.

                  My point is, buyers are valid proof to RAISE a price......

                    It can't.


                    Because, as i said, i can buy buds for 2 buds, and don't have any for this price, you can't prove something if its just a probability. You can't bet on luck everytime :/

                      ...


                      Didn't I just link you this suggestion by me: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54b1fae7b88d889c5b8b5cc0


                      It was accepted with only buyers.


                      IT CAN


                      Buds are a unique place, because they're CURRENCY items

                        Alright, i let backpack.tf answer that question :


                        What does not count as evidence?

                        Evidence must not be cherry-picked. If an item is easily selling at a price outside of your suggested range at the current time, you should seriously reconsider if your suggestion is valid. Your suggestion might end up being closed if wiser users opposing your suggestion point out a list of active trades well out of the range you suggested.


                        "Quickbuy" trades and buyouts (B/O) do not count towards evidence. Quickbuyers do not look for a specific item in particular. Buyout prices are set by the seller and therefore do not reflect the actual price of the item.


                        The Steam Community Market is great for buying items convieniently. However, the 15% fee on each sale means that item prices on the SCM are almost always inflated to compensate. Therefore, please do not use SCM prices as evidence.


                        Credits to : http://backpack.tf/help/suggestions

                          This is the only evidence on the market. It's not cherrypicked.


                          This is not a quickbuyer, he is buying above. Buyers above are viable


                          Steam market isn't even involved here....

                            So, i will use another exemple, i'm not here to be a devil or something like that... I'm here to help you.

                            ( Unless, sorry for my english, i'm not a native one ).


                            You take a criminal.

                            You need to make the time he will stay in jails.


                            If you take someone like "I did probably see him making the crime" will you belive him or not ?


                            And, you take someone else ( because, why not, its an exemple ) and put the weapon that the criminal uses, and the police did a complete scan on it, and it prove that its the weapon of the criminal.


                            Will you take the first guy, or the second guy to help you making the time he will stay in jail ?

                            I think its obvious, the second guy.


                            Its the same here.

                            You can't make a price out of a probability, its a fact.

                            Did you saw keys suggestions ? Buds ? Did they uses buyers ? Not really... Just a minor fact the help them prove a point.


                            You can use buyers, you're right, but if you don't have a solid proof, its like building a bridge of planks on a river with crocodiles... You can fall.

                            If you did have a solid proof, like, 1.33 sold, and, uses the sellers to help you making the range 1.22-1.33 as a new range for this item, it will be perfect.


                            Its just a suggestion based on probability, and thousands of peoples from the world uses backpack.tf, and if everyone are selling or buying out of a probability, bp.tf wouldn't have what its it now.


                            ( again, sorry for my english... :( i hope i helped you understand what i wanted to speak to you :) )

                              .... Still wrong...

                              d0 has the most accepted suggestions on the entire site

                              http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54a420a4b98d88051a8b4580


                              He used only buyers...


                              Please... at this point i'm trying to help you

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/511790

                                The amount of this hat he bought can prove it, its true.


                                but your buyer didn't buy any, that's why its wrong.


                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/511790


                                Buyer too, but didn't bought any, also, thats what i told you, he proves the 9 ref upper range, and the 8 was here to help him that this price is low.


                                But, in 14 days suggestion, everything can happen...

                                  I give up.... This is valid proof. If you want to lose rep, have fun losing it

                                    I won't lose it. Trust me. Just because i defend something out of a price and trying to understand someone doesn't mean i'm a bad person, rep don't have anything in this.

                                      Oh trust me, you will lose it. I have done this before, and it always happens

                                        Also, this one is a good one ( and you did it ! :) )


                                        http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54b6d01eb98d889d2f8b4643


                                        Because, you did prove a sold, 1.33 is possible because its been sold to this price, and your range 1.22 on the lower price is valid too, because you prove that 1.22 can be find, the buyer uses as an help to your sold.

                                          Once again, I have over 50 suggestions accepted. I know what I'm doing...

                                            On this one, i doubt. Its full of a probability...

                                              Dude dude dude. If someone is willing to buy it for more than someone is selling it for, it's practically a sold.

                                                Harute he clearly knows what hes doing so u shud listen2him

                                                Upvote

          Alright, so a person who has never had a passed suggestion (let alone even tried to make one) is claiming a green belt suggester has no idea how to make a suggestion, and endlessly argues with people about how they are right and the person who made the suggestion did it wrong. If you think your so well knowledged on how to make suggestions why don't you go and make some then Xyneron?

            +1 Glitch, I agree