Suggestion: Mann Co. Supply Crate Key at 13.33 ref

Price Suggestion

~57.22 ref

1486 votes up

1420 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 18 Jan 15 00:13:12 +0000 by polar.

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Buyers -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24481869 - 14.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24663506 - 14.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24663162 - 13.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24065887 - 13.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24565485 - 13.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24626873 - 13.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24305218 - 13.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24463263 - 13.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24344774 - 13.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24387421 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24662684 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24662937 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24495068 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24630405 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24440293 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24654703 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24655968 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23613227 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802959 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24664194 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24603019 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24463263 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23891348 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24651047 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23850730 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24664145 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24637628 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23988919 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23798941 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24648684 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24630349 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23741703 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24449573 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24650404 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24423454 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24600512 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23389432 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24610951 - 13.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24292035 - 13.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24630349 - 13.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24457055 - 13.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24570519 - 13.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24662910 - 13.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24606945 - 13.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24608677 - 13.11

Sales -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24114577 - 14.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24627457 - 14.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24663178 - 13.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24664178 - 13.44 (instant)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24663030 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24574773 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24662661 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24662867 - 13.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24662850 - 13.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24663310 - 11.00

Marked for asking for free rep? And I used to admire you. Anyways, staying neutral till you get a bit more of proof.

that's pretty old now, just a heads up :<

"Sep 7, 2014"

I don't think that qualifies as "pretty old". Even then, it's still something that happened.

Are...are you guys serious right now? d0 is the most trustworthy user on this site.

I'm getting downvoted for simply saying that you shouldn't forget when someone's fucked up lmfao.

If you've researched the story, you'd know that it was all an accident. It was a joke he was doing with his friends.

I'm starting to think this is becoming a flame war, can an admin stop it?

Also, I feel pretty sorry for d0's condition.

What does that have to do with this suggestion?

You cannot question d0's motives.

Proof is looking very nice d0, but could use more sales.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24440245#latest - I've sold AT LEAST 30 keys at 13.33 ref each, and 15 keys at 13.66 ref each. 13.33 goes really fast, and 13.66 has been going fast too.

I agree. Price looks good, but more sales are definitely appreciated.

I hope it's not a problem if I use this for my suggestion, too.

I know why

Because he is d0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Completely off topic

Because when you deal with alot of unusuals and people unbox new ones, or you quickbuy alot of high value items like Big Kills/BMOCs/Max Heads/Bills/Etc., it's nice to have alot of pure on hand to offer for them.

Im kinda surprised there are buyers at 14 seeing how often 13.33-13.66 shows up...

Maybe because he bought nearly 5000 of them over the last months via paypal?^^ http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22714857

Owning ~500 keys is not rare at all in high tiered trading. I personally try to keep 200-300 keys in reserve at anytime, and sometimes I spend a few hundred keys in a day. Not a big deal.

The power o.0

Anyways more proof always helps, yada yada yada, eventual huge debate and upvote.

Seems good. Upvote

Before any kid is gonna complain about keys rising

Please use the forums to do that

Really.

Proof looks good, upvote

Wow, a suggestion that isn't "guiz plos lowr da keis xd", but lacking a little in proof.

You should be putting in the sales at 13 ref pure, along with the sales at the price you are suggesting. You dont want to appear to be giving a biased view of sales.

why would he need sales at 13?

Because it's not impossible to get key for 13ref

13 ref isn't in his range

That's why he has to prove that it's not possible to get for 13 ref anymore

he showed multiple quickbuyers above that

Can someone please explain how the proof provided shows that 13.33 is the most suitable price and not 13.22-13.33 or 13.33-13.44 or something else :/

Without looking at sellers it is difficult to say if enough keys are available at the suggested price and if it is not a quicksell because many buyers are shown at the suggested price and some above.

The majority of sales are at 13.33, The buyers at 13 or 13.22 etc. are there to show that a rise is needed C:

But 13.33 might be a quicksell. I mean when there are many buyers at 13.33 (and some above) why not rise it till 13.44 or some other value. (amount of sales provided itself is very very low for keys) The "proof" says even 13.44 is a quicksell (instant) :P

Providing sellers always helps to show that supply meets demand.

Even though that 13.33 might seem a quick sell, its the most common trading point, which is what the price is supposed to reflect, regardless of its selling speed, as polar says.

~~owns 486, downvote because price manipulation~~

I guess I'll upvote.

Dats alot of proof. The more the better.

all of these are old ._.

So people with lots of a specific item can not suggest a price of that item? In a similar way, people suggesting a lower price of an item they don't have are also manipulating it's price? I think not.

It might be in the favor of the person doing it, but as long as sufficient proof is provided, it's just a regular suggestion.

Not nearly enough sales and additionally, 13.33 might be a tad too low.

inb4 unboxing streak

I've never seen you do a key suggestion. Proof is sufficient upvote.

got my upvote

"Owns 346 keys"

Meanwhile little proof of sales of 13.33 ref, downvote.

don't buy keys for metal anymore*

Fixed.

Also, rich traders' greed ain't something to argue with here. Why sell keys for metal when metal is useless for high-tier trading?

Keys tend to have a lot more proof than this. It is a currency after all. Downvote for now.

Feels like it needs more proof but might as well upvote. 13.66 seems hard to sell at too

They really need to stop allowing people with hundreds of keys in their backpack to put up key price votes

Everyone who keep accusing me of manipulation or sit here with terrible "keys should be X amount of ref cuz <bad reason>" shouldn't spam this suggestion.

If you wanna discuss key prices and all that, post here: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6090-the-one-and-only-key-price-topic/

Im not questioning you d0, i know you do it for the rep and in general to help the economy, not for personal gain

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24481869 - At 14 refs, he bough ~ 20 keys, and still out of metall.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24663506 - 1 day ago, bough those keys, just when posted.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24663162 - closed already

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24065887 - he buying at 13,33 NOT at 13,55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24565485 - buying at 13,55, trying to sell at 14. Still got his 6 keys unsold.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24626873 - out of metall, as everyone else

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24305218 - trying to sell his keys as 14,33 now. Still got all unsold.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24463263 - buying at 13,33 not at 13,44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24344774 - out of metall, got couple of keys unsold.

Most of other trades is bots, half of them only selling now, since out of metall.

I dont have that much time to check all of it, and make resuggest, but i just want to say:

You picked most stand out trades, which only ~ 5-10% on outpost.

You forgot about ~90% other, which sucsessfully buying keys from 12.66 and probably some lower, ofc you didint post that.

And you didint count classiciffed, where every day you can find tons of keys for 13 refs.

Im not sure, if my option ever counted, but i think your suggestion is most not fair + as i posted earler, most of your trades outdated, and changed (or closed) already.

All of the stuff you mention was correct AT TIME. It was over a day ago.

I cannot have 100% of the outpost stuff, but clearly not 5-10%. I also only use active buyers (bumped one's and all that)

Even tho there's sales below and above bp.tf price, if there's ACTIVE buyers at 13.33 and above, those should be valued over a 12.66 buyer (or below). All sales below 13.33 are going quick. How is most of my trades outdated? All of them at time was updated and bumped ~2hours when I made the suggestion. Poor counter with 0 counterproof links/sales.

I think this needs more sales. Great proof so far. Can't upvote

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