Suggestion: Purple Energy Pyromancer's Mask at 162.5–182 keys

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~1200 keys

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First suggestion, but I think I got this.

Trade 1:

-Sold for 7 pure and beams merry. http://gyazo.com/0de5ee3fbd022652aa23bc424c6554b7

- 7 + 7.5 * 0.9 = 13.75, rounding to 14.

Trade 2:

- Sold for scorching brigade, aussie flamethrower, 3 buds, and 10 keys. http://gyazo.com/f18d200c6e8efb7de947e4f47b52b7e6

- 8.33 (see mini) * 0.9 + 1.4 + 3.66 = 12.6, rounding to 12.5

Mini for brigade:

-Sold for 6 buds and 35 keys. http://gyazo.com/5ae7b1aa826dc32061755a72b6ee73fa

- 6 + 35/15 = 8.33

Also I sold mine for 2 burning fros and 7 keys. Then I sold a burning fro for a burning scotch and 2 buds. That's another sale over 13 buds, closer to 14

Did you put overpay on aussie flamethrower? 1.4 * 0.9 = 1.26 ~ 1.3

~~You won't blame me if I use calc, will you?~~

Someone told me I didn't need to. Anyways, that doesn't make a difference as the the 2nd trade still rounds to 12.5.

Only buds, keys, clean HOUWARs, non-level 1 max's heads are exceptions. But alright then.

Okay, well like I just said, I rounded 12.6 to 12.5, so it doesn't make a difference either way. But thankyou for telling me I will do that in the future.

Bought a clean p.e. mancer for 11 pure, gotta downvote. Price got a refresh not that long ago and price is still fine imo.

From what I've been able to find, you bought your mancer a couple weeks ago around when the price was brought down with the last suggestion, and traded it in a package deal for the crones. Good luck getting a PE mancer for 11 pure anymore. Current owners are declining pure offers in the current range, and the 2 very recent sales both over the current 12 bud upper range are an indication that the price is not still fine. In fact, the 2nd sale should be even higher, as I believe the scorching brigade is worth more, but the only recent sale I could find for the mini was a quicksell.

I'd suggest you wait before making a suggestion, other suggestion is 1 month old, so sales are still valid.

Why wait? The price is clearly inaccurate if the two most recent sales are above the current high end range.

What about what I got mine for, which is 2 weeks old? Price of a hat can't bump by like 3 buds in 2 weeks.

The guy with the scorching brigade wanted a p.e. mancer real bad, imo he was overpaying. You even bought a p.e. mancer to get the deal of the brigade. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24714242

Yours was likely a quick sell. Many people give great discounts for pure, even if they do not explicitly say they are quick selling. And why can the price not go up 3 buds in 3 weeks? Buds went up by like 5 keys in a day, anything is possible in a market like tf2. Yes, the guy probably wanted a mancer real bad. I also wanted a mancer real bad. The thing is, what he paid and what I paid is the cheapest that we could get a pe mancer for. As well as those two 2 sales ABOVE the current high end range, there have been countless declined offers ABOVE the current high end range. Yesterday I declined an offer of a vivid mancer (I sold one of those 7 pure like a week ago), 6 pure, and 5 keys. That's essentially a 13 + pure offer. When I get an offer like that on a hat with a current price of 11-12, you know that the price is outdated. In fact, I've declined multiple offers in that range. I'm sure other owners have as well. Now, what do multiple sales and offers above the current high end range indicate? A price in need of an update.

No need to get mad lol. We'll wait for a mod to see, but even after taking the offer you gave :

Mancer + 6 buds + 5 keys = 6.3 + 6 + 0.3 = 12.6, which's just above the current range.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24519639 added a spec KS strange festive : sticky&grenade, spec KS strange machina&original for a beams company man (outdated, taking 15.5 * 0.9 = 14 ), adding 1 key for spec KS to normal festive

14 - 1(sticky) - 0.5 (grenade) - 1 (machina) - 0.5 (original) = (mancer) 11

Why would I be mad? Also, that offer is not just over the current range, it is over a bud over the current average of 11.5. And that's why I declined it lol, I know I could easily get more. Also, the beams company is outdated so the sale is unusable, and also the sticky wasn't even added, he still has it. You need to get your facts straight. Also I could be wrong, but overpay on the company doesn't need to be calculated because the mancer was offered on it. Thus, that sale (if the company wasn't outdated) would be at least 12, and possibly as much as 13.5.

I took 90% of the CMs value as it's outdated. There are 4+ sales and you're only putting 2 in your suggestion. Doubt it'll pass.

Luckily, I'm using the most recent and viable. Also, not sure why you took 90% off cause its outdated. To update it you'd need a mini. But then again, you couldn't even figure out correctly what the sale was.

Says the guy using 2 sales out of 10+...? It's hard as I'm on phone. You can't update a price usin sales within 2 weeks but you must put every single sale within 3 months, put a range when it appears. Not using 2 sales like you did. As you seem to not get it, I'll leave you there and let a mod tell you the same thing.

3 months? Why would I use prices covered in the last price update? And what makes you think prices can't change in 3 weeks? Judging by recent sales and offers, it's pretty clear that they have. And there is a pretty clear range, especially if the company is still worth around 15.5. That'd be three extremely recent sales all in the 12.5 - 14 range. Heck, the brigade trade should be even higher value as the scorching brigade is probably worth more than 8.33, but that quick sell trade was all I had to work with for the mini. And these two recent sales should be enough to get the job done.

No I did not buy a PE mancer to get the deal with the brigade. I have never owned a scorching brigade in my life. Idk what you are talking about.

Nieroda got me mine for 12.5 Pure. Upvote

Nice, and yeah the scorching brigade sold for like 12 pure recently as well, so the 2nd trade is a bit low but whatever aha.

Every single clean sale in the last two months (not counting complex sales involving high tier hats) --

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24006358 - secret fez + 2 ~12

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24465184 - 11 pure (sold in a day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24543010 - 12.5 pure

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24626342 - this is the brigade trade (you don't need to apply overpay on the 8.33 for the brigade because that was its pure value - ~13.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24519639 - offered with ~2 buds in sweets for duped beams CM ~13.5-14 (mini for that here - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6817-bpbs-mini-suggestion-thread-for-gifted-duped-hats/) ~12

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24157565 - your sale of 7 pure + beams merry ~14

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24717732 - your sale which is probably close to 14 given how outdated the fros are

So that gives us sales at 11, 12, 12, 12.5, 13.3, 14, 14. I'm fine calling 11 an outlier. But 12 won't be one. Range should be 12-14 here.

so is 12.5 -14 instead of 12-14 close enough?

and also the brigade recently sold for 12 pure. I guess that makes the 13.3 trade around 15 now (Taking the brigade as 10 buds by averaging the 12 bud sale and 8 bud sale).

Well, 8 and 12 are far apart. If you intend to use that sale formally, it will need a formal suggestion first. I would resuggest at 12-14. There are two sales at 12 that are getting missed by your current range. Don't worry, it won't take more than a day to accept your resuggestion the second time around.

Alright, is it okay if I just copy and paste what you posted above and say that was you in the new suggestion?

Yup

Alright, will do, thanks.