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Morning Glory Head Warmer
Submitted by dot
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Unusual Head Warmer Morning Glory
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The price range was either too broad or did not accurately reflect how the item was traded. Therefore, this suggestion has been closed.

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You are having a range from one sale. Besides that, i highly doubt that the Prof Killstreak Australium Rocket Launcher is worth as much as you think. You are just using sellers on scm to determine the value of it. Scm values of such items are normally higher than what people are selling on outpost. You will need to research more into the value of that.

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My first price suggestion, so apologies if it's a bit messy.


This is a 1/1 hat, sold to me by http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198143614864. I payed a Australium Rocket Launcher with Professional Killstreaks applied to it. (Sheen: Flames and Villainous Violet). The RL is worth about 8 buds. The range of the hat is around 8-9 buds (as estimated by unboxer + a few of his friends + myself).


The RL I priced due to its value on the Steam Community Market. Take a look at this - http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Strange%20Professional%20Killstreak%20Australium%20Rocket%20Launcher. Lowest is selling for $239, and that's Singularity/Mean Green. My sheen was on the same level, if not more high tier, and that's why I priced it as such.


My reasoning for pricing this hat so high is as follows:


- It's a Head Warmer, which is normally a very high-tier unusual


- It's a new effect, released in an update that was 4 months or so back


- It's 1/1 in the world, making it very rare, and consequently, very valuable.


- It has an extremely short history, with myself being the second owner.


If you have any questions, please post them in the comments below. I'd love to hear any critique you guys have for me ~ again, I'm new to this whole price-suggesting business.


-Dot

    You need sales for this to go through and also, even if the RL was worth 8, I don't see where you got the high end (9) in a reasonable way, because estimating isn't a reliable method what so ever.

      It was what the original owner suggested, and the unusual, after all, was overpay. I know this isn't very strong reasoning, but I'm trying my best.

      Can't have a range with one sale.

      Also, you need to make a mini suggestion for the rocket, you can't just make a random price out of it.

        Hm alright. I'll edit the post with the additional details about the RL. Thank you for the help!

        umm how do you know the rl is around 8, and even so u need to apply overpay. (8x.9)=7.2. that is ur price.

          Updated the suggestion with reasoning.

          If the rocket launcher is worth 8, why is the range 8-9?

            Because the unusual was overpay. On top of that, that's what the owner suggested.

              I've heard a couple people saying that you can't make a range out of 1 sale.

                Problem is, the hat is 1/1, so that changes it quite a bit. Or at least I think it does, haha.

                  I don't think that matters honestly, but I'm not going to argue, since I don't know much about unusual suggesting.

            http://backpack.tf/u/76561198139461388

            http://backpack.tf/u/76561197995194055


            Prof KS Aussie Rocket sellers for less than 7 buds...

              Problem is, it all depends on the sheen/killstreaker and what the owner deems it's worth. I'd say my killstreaker is pretty high-tier, and as such, I priced it at 8 buds. Also, they could be quickselling, you never know~

                Yes, a specific combo for an unboxable killstreak kit can be worth a whole bud more, and yes, two sellers are obviously quickselling even when one states "In No Rush to sell so it better be a good offer!".


                Might as well make a suggestion for this hat to be worth 100 buds since you're the only owner and therefore 'can deem what it is worth'.

                  Obviously the price must be within reason, but with killstreaks, it's much more open and up to the owner.

                some of your comments are based on faulty reasoning, such as;

                "Problem is, the hat is 1/1, so that changes it quite a bit. Or at least I think it does, haha."

                ^ the hat being 1 of 1 doesn't change anything as to the suggested price being a range with only one sale


                http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-new-unusual-price-suggestion-guide-the-cheat-sheet/ this may clarify a lot

                  Yes, you have no idea what you are doing, I suggest you shut this down and apply overpay correctly.

                    How do I have "no idea what I'm doing"? I'm an avid trader and I'm trying to get into price suggesting. I think all the proof I provided, with its flaws, was relevant and contributes well to the suggestion itself.

                      You're being ignorant. You want the price to be high like you said earlier and tell me where you're getting a range for 1 sale? and being a good trader has nothing to do with price suggestions. If you really need it, I'll dive into further reasearch and make my own suggestion. But it sure won't be what you expected.

                        being an avid trader doesn't imply understanding of how bptf suggesting works, do read the guide link I posted


                        (eric is definitely being too harsh though)

                    scm still leaves a tax, still requiring overpay. and plus u have a range with 1 sale. price manipulation is what im about to conlude. just because an item is on the market, deosnt means its actually selling as well

                      "price manipulation"


                      You wanna know the real reason why I'm doing this suggestion? I want to get my damn hat priced that I just bought. Okay?

                        Well, then get external proof, that'd help, but make a new suggestion, there are way too many downvotes

                          How are you determining the number of downvotes this has simply from looking at it? There's no real way to see as far as I'm concerned.

                            simply bc all the people making complaints, this suggestion can also be seen as a big opinion. it shouldnt be what u think it should be at, it's what the public thinks it should be at. the hat is ~7.2 with overpay applied. deal with it.

                              "with overpay applied" He overpayed for the RL, I didn't buy the hat from him, and so he overpayed, leaving it at 8-9 buds.

                                if he offered on your rl, that means the rl gets the price increase (if you could price a pro one). the hat would be around somewhere slightly <8, since the hat was traded for in that value.