Suggestion: Haunted Vicar's Vestments at 0.66–1 ref

Price Suggestion

~1.3 keys

133 votes up

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This suggestion was accepted Fri, 06 Feb 15 22:53:54 +0000 by polar.

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http://prntscr.com/60pswh - 1 ref

sold it for that much,just too lazy to actually take a pic of my history <.>

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24432456 - unsold for .66

Should provide trade history, just to clarify.

Should still provide a picture of the item trade history.

Edit: The picture is a trade offer btw, you really need to prove it actually sold for 1 ref then.

Edit 2: Since your so unwilling to provide proof that the item really did sell for the offer (which can always change) you provided, I see no reason why the price should be changed until we have proof it really sold for the same 1 ref offer you provided in the screenshot.

i'm dying to manipulate a halloween misc by 0.17

Never said you were. You shouldn't just leave it out just because your "too lazy" though.

i'd agree if the change in price was meaningful

Does not matter if the price seems insignificant to you. You know the rules for suggestions and what is considered valid proof, being "too lazy" to take a picture of the item trade history is no excuse. (you even bother taking a screenshot of the trade, it would have been like 4 more clicks at most)

ask the buyer to provide the picture,it should just be a few clicks for you

You might want to read this again.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/792-how-to-make-a-good-suggestion-bullet-points-version/

"Do not rely on others to provide proof for you."

The suggestor is the one responsible for the proof, not everyone else. :)

i provided proof that he sent me an offer

and he now owns the thing http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/872672

case closed

Offers can always be changed, is there any proof you have that it went through with that same offer?

~~Also, you claim he sent you the offer, but why does it say that he would be notified of the offer?~~

It says "Change offer" the guy sent the trade offer, I still agree that he should supply a screenshot of the actual trade as it's not hard. I think he's just being stubborn to spite you.

pretty much,as it would be easier for me to just take the picture and post it - instead of trying to reason

Well, he is right. You should supply a picture of the trade since it's your only sale at 1. I'm not saying this is right nor is it wrong. Just because he owns it, doesn't mean you sold it for 1 refined. Also, you took the time to take a screenshot of the trade offer, why not just take a screenshot of the actual trade history instead? Are you looking to pick fights or something?

of course not

http://backpack.tf/item/3456544763 history of the ref

the last one in line. the ref lying next to him wasn't from him

Not my point, you could have simply taken a screenshot of something different with little to no work. But, instead, you take a screenshot of something with more controversy.

that is absolutely correct

Ok, so why'd you do that?

because i wanted to do it quickly.

after that i just can't accept that the guy can't accept rational thinking instead of the picture of the trade history

i mean,most unusual suggestion have only backpack history proof and it slides

edit: thinking back on it,i shouldn't have closed the tab w/ accepted trade so quickly,but oh well lol

option a) i sent him a trade offer back w/ lower than 1 ref and i lie that it was 1 ref

option b) i sent him a trade offer w/ higher than 1 ref and i also lie that it was 1 ref

also it's like that in every trade offer. check for yourself,i barely noticed it acuz it's above the giant accept trade button.

the reason is simple. because i can simply fake my trade history http://prntscr.com/60raoq

anyhow as i was saying http://backpack.tf/item/3456544763 history of the ref

maybe you don't want to admit,but trade history isn't reliable at all

Either way you need to provide real proof showing it sold like you just did now. Was it really worth arguing all this time about it when you could have just posted that in the first place?

that was a picture i made in paint. i pasted a picture of the reclaimed over the refined.

so what good comes if i can just "alter" my trade history

Im referring to your link of the item history of the ref, showing he bought it at a ref. Nice try though c:

i already posted the history once,you just didn't read my comment i guess.

Sorry, but it's kind of buried with the rest of these comments :\

Either way you showed the proof, and that was the only problem with the suggestion. Its all good now.

strictly looking it's not as decisive as you think

i could have sold for 1.33 :#

Your really wanting to argue further after there is nothing left to argue about? If you want to debate what you could hjave sold it for, go ahead. It will only hurt how accurate your suggestion looks. :|

my point is,you can actually never be 100% sure if i'm saying the truth,unless you ask the other side (which might actually be my friend ? mhm)

so the debate is quite pointless,yea

My point was you still needed to provide ample enough proof to suggest it sold for what you said it did (which you did not do till after numerous people pointed it out). It was a pointless debate, that could have been avoided entirely.

and mine is that whatever i post,it can easily be false

same as anyone's proof

i know what you mean, someone dropped my unusual price from 20 keys to 14 keys with mistaken proof. Sold it for 20 keys anyway so it's all good. still, you should post the proof whether it can be faked or not

kek,i made the firewall rise to 17-19 w/ your sale

anyhow i did post teh proof,the trade offer i received and later on the history of the ref

haha i see you did :3 ofc that's no use to me now, but it just goes to show how you get blind downvoted to hell if you try to legitimately rise your unusual with a white belt