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Re-suggested since Marty Birdman showed a sold and told me to change the range.
Unsolds at 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25012533
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25025372
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25027352
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24777437
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25019456 has 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25024492
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24981654 painted
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24942266 2 in stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25005415
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24860549
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24946215
Sellers below 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24919367 15 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24963433 15 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25037984 14 ref
Sold for 1 key each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24796290
1 key is 15.33 refined so.
1) is this price change big enough to justify a suggestion?
2) does 2 sellers justify this change? considering that for the majority of their selling time they've been either selling for literally the equivalent of 1 key in metal or a scrap below it, i think that 2 sellers at 15 alone (and one 13 hour old completely unbumped seller at 14) should not justify a suggestion.
Pretty much this. This drop is practically unnecessary and this proof you've provided is not solid enough to justify a drop if I'm honest.
Unnecessary? 1 key barely sells. alright sure, 2 sellers at 15 ref for more than a couple days, and still haven't sold, if it doesn't need a drop, then be my guest and downvote :)
yes, it does need a drop. Doesn't matter how big the drop is.
Literally the equivalent? 15 ref/=/1 key, 15 refined is 1 reclaimed less than a key, so you are incorrect my friend.
Who said I'm using the 14 ref in the range, i'm using the 2 sellers at 15 to provide a drop.
"for most of their selling time" as in, they have been selling since keys were 15-15.33 or whatever they were, so for most of the time they've not been below the range; i.e. they only became valid proof when the latest key suggestion was accepted which means that they should be treated as young. i'm not saying you've put 14 in the range because i'm not an idiot, i'm saying it's irrelevant, which you seem to agree with.
Actually, how do you know how much they were selling for back then, they could have changed the price, if you have proof of how much they were selling for before, provide it. If you don't, then don't assume that they were selling for 15 ref for that whole period of time, they could have changed it.
I know 14 is irrelevant, but it helps the suggestion.
so by the logic that they could have changed price at any time we can't distinguish between young and old trades as valid proof for a drop?
Hm, true, but this suggestion will be up for another day, so if the 15 ref sellers don't sell by then I'm keeping this up.
I feel keeping 1 key in range would be better
15.33=1 key
I'm referring to something like 0.x-1 key, like the other suggestion
Yea, but .85 is ugly af
is not about it being ugly, needs to be accurate
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54850183b98d88c7498b4fbb
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54a23314b88d88cf6f8b47a2
2 links at 15 ref?
Both of them have had it for more than a few days.
fair enough
http://imgur.com/IbJwd05 sold for 1 key. also, changing from key to ref makes no sense when the value it's so damn close