Suggestion: Strange Winger at 4–4.33 ref

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Strange Winger

Submitted Sat, 21 Feb 15 20:15:25 +0000 by ★ DoctorDingDong

68.65%

5 ref

4–4.33 ref

~3 ref

173 votes up

79 votes down

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Strange Wingers being sold below the set price of 5 Refined Metal:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25143470[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25129523[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25139702[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25121784[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25141634[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25130436[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25139634[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25124492[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25139716[/url] = 4.00

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25143335[/url] = 4.33

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25138721[/url] = 4.55

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25111806[/url] = 4.66

Strange Wingers listed for bp.tf price of 5 ref and not selling:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25137448[/url] - Listed for 16 hours at 5 ref and not sold.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25135523[/url] - Listed for 19 hours at 5 ref and not sold.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25133972[/url] - Listed for 22 hours at 5 ref and not sold.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25122192[/url] - Listed for 24 hours at 5 ref and not sold.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25122164[/url] - Listed for 24 hours at 5 ref and not sold.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25048005[/url] - Listed for two days(with the last accepted price) at 5 ref and not sold.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25079602[/url] - Listed for two days(with the last accepted price) at 5 ref and not sold.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25092492[/url] - Listed for two days(with the last accepted price) at 5 ref and not sold.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25115352[/url] - Listed for two days at the price of 5 ref and again unsold.

Note: Last price suggestion accepted for the winger was two days ago at 5 ref.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54e63115ba8d88136f8b4576

All my proof recognizes the time and value of this price suggestion being accepted.

Note2: (with the last accepted price) meaning it has been listed longer but only that long with the accepted price of 5 ref.

About half of outpost's listings for strange wingers are for 4.00 ref.

Please leave any constructive criticism or extra proof in the comments and I'll try to take it into account.

Why not go for 4 flat?

I was going to but didn't due to a few sellers still at 4.33. I probably should've done 4 flat. Thanks for your advice.

Heh, you have more sellers for 4 than all other sellers.

Was giving advice, not criticism =)

I did it a different way. I got the mean of all sellers below 5 ref and that was 4.14 so I just made this range.

Based off your proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25143470 = 4.00 - Quicksold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25129523 = 4.00 - All 3 quicksold in an hour

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25139702 = 4.00 - Quicksold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25121784 = 4.00 -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25141634 = 4.00 - Untradeables

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25130436 = 4.00 - Still young

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25139634 = 4.00 - At least one quicksold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25124492 = 4.00 - Still young

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25139716 = 4.00 - Young and unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25143335 = 4.33 - Young

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25138721 = 4.55 - Young

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25111806 = 4.66 -

Looks like 4 ref is a huge quicksale. Rainford also provided a sold for 5 ref as well.

Strange Wingers listed for bp.tf price of 5 ref and not selling:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25137448 - Young and unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25135523 - Young and poorly bumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25133972 - Young and untradeable

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25122192 - 2 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25122164 - 2 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25048005 - Untradeables

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25079602 -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25092492 - Looks poorly bumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25115352 - Unbumped/Invalid

Most of your proof for unsolds at 5 are too young and can sell at anytime (if they were a week or older, it would be very different).

One problem with your opinion. Where you say "Most of your proof for unsolds at 5 are too young and can sell at anytime (if they were a week or older, it would be very different)." The last and only price change for the strange winger was two days ago so I kept the unsolds proof below or at 2 day old for it to be relevant anything past that would be irrelevant seeing as how the Strange Winger didn't have a price before that. Thank-you for your counter-proof, but it is non applicable. And also, most of those you said were quicksales were not based off [url]http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/969-psa-how-to-help-identify-quicksell-buyer-trades/[/url]. They were just people who thought that was a reasonable price and should be the price. Lastly, it doesn't matter if the 4 ref ones are young, they will easily sell faster than 5 ref ones due to lower price.

Your missing my point. My point is, these are old enough to not be considered quicksells, but at the same time too young to be considered unsellable. Plus, if you say using sellers older then 2 days is irrelevant, why did you add sellers older then 2 days?

Either way, your proof shows that 4 ref is a quicksell, meaning 4 ref should not be in the range.

A quicksale is a item that sells in less than 2 days, you just listed a fourm on how to identify quicksell buyers (or as i call them, quickbuyers), which are completely different. You did not list buyers, but sales that quicksold (sold within less than 2 days).

Looking further into the trades you listed at 5 ref, found some more info about them. (Removed the invalid trades from the list)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25137448 - Item not in his/her BP, sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25135523 - Only strange winger in his/her bp is non-tradeable, sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25122192 - 2 days old, poorly bumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25122164 - Item does not seem to be in his/her bp either

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25079602 -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25092492 - Looks poorly bumped

http://i.imgur.com/dwqxu5n.png

Sold mine for 5 ref pure this morning

That's fine and good, but you got lucky. Cause there are plently of others with better deals below 5 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25137448 - Item not in his/her BP, sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25135523 - Only strange winger in his/her bp is non-tradeable, sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25081915 - Sold

Plus, there are still many more young sellers that can't be used as proof that the item cannot be sold for 5 ref.

Already too many sellers at 3 refs (just a quick look at the Classifieds). I think I've got to dawnvote this one. Re-suggest at "better" range?

Way more accurate than 5 flat, votes are posititve. May be a slight bit high looking at classifieds, but it'll do for now. accepting