Suggestion: The Quäckenbirdt at 1.55–1.66 ref

seriously almost every seller and buyer has been listed in the proof/ comments, its hard to find confirmed sales due to trade offers existing and automatic 24x7 trade offer scripts/ bots existing as well

only has 2 pages on outpost, which is a small number of pages for a craft reskin (sharp dresser has 11+ for comparison) a good bit of the buyers at higher prices are fresh trades ( like from 1.33 to 1.44 buyers) and the sellers from 1.55 to 1.66 have fresher trades while the buyers at low prices (below 1.11) are older trades that have had their trades set up for awhile

all (should) go in order from most recently bumped to most unbumped (maybe a few outliers of this rule due to time of upload and auto bumps and whatnot) (at time of suggestion @ 2/23/15 12:22PM USA eastern time)

conclusion:

28 for 1.55 (good bit have sold)

4 for 1.66 (2 have sold)

1 sold for 2 ref

any above 2 ref have no confirmed sales

bonus..duck?:

http://imgur.com/TGk0JWb (i sent 2 trade offers to 2 sellers at 1.55, cuz im buying one, so you can maybe consider that a proof of (only 1) sale? although i can easily and hypothetically cancel the trade offer, but im not cuz ducks are rad and so are watches :p

No need for buyers to decrease a price.

That header did make me blind downvote though xP

i figured people would haha xD, i guess ill edit notes and warn people not to blind vote xP ty for notifying me c:

Heh, I did have a laugh.

No problem :P

For a first suggestion this looks great.

They're all quicksells.

thank you <3

I have sold at least 7 for 2 ref yesterday

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25164310#latest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25160689#latest

(further proof is in my own suggestion, the last accepted one)

the whole buyer section is redundant and unnecessary - it just shows that people are readily willing to pay the shown price (or even more than that - see 2.33 buyer). any "confirmed" purchases you have pointed out are at least weeks old. basically, you're counterproving your own point

from your own sellers:

1.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25018030 - quicksold ages ago

1.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25165543 - has sold at least 10 within the last day - see http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/15524

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25169434 - quicksold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25173549 - quicksold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25173549 - relist of the prior link's seller. unbumped, young. other relists show that at least 6 have been sold within the last day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25166022 - young

1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25167194 - sold out (less than a day)

2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23947070 - quicksold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25169680 - young, also sold one

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25172816 - young

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25129492 - sold (+inactive)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25126195 - inactive

2.33+ is out of question

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Qu%C3%A4ckenbirdt&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1 - as pointed out, no valid sellers below 2

also,

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25166467 - 2 ref sold

i.e. 2 ref clearly sells well (should be kept in range), no proper proof to support including 1.55/1.66 in range (both are proven to be quicksells and are scarcely available save for a couple of mass sellers who get cleared out of their stock quickly)

thank you for your helpful criticism, i will keep this in mind :)

yeah, basically you should check out for what people are willing to pay; and how quickly listings below listed price go - if the item sits around without selling for long, then it means that it should be valued lower - though the opposite would mean that current price is okay, such as in this case.

Seeing your sales and mine shown, perhaps a range of 1.66 to 2 ref should be preseted, because ive never seen so many quicksells on an item unless the item is dropping in value and they plan to sell it before it drops, of 1.55 being a quicksell and 1.66 tp 2 ref being the in range sale, i see no quickbuyers at 1.66 either, i will probably resuggest this tomorrow unless this get accepted, again, thank you for the additional info

well, my point is that both main bulk sellers (basically the only steady source of 1.66 watches) have very young listings (and have been offline for a while) yet still get a good amount of adds - other than those, pretty much all of the market for these is at 2 ref flat.

perhaps we should wait for a mod to give their view on this

i agree on you with that one :)

Buyers should not be included when suggesting prices . Also , 1.66-1.55 is not really a good price range , should keep the 2 ref since 2 ref is still an acceptable prices . All in all , the proof is great and good luck on your 1st suggestion :P

thank you for your feedback c:

You counterproof'd yourself, 1.55 and 1.66 are quicksells, they sell in less than a day

thank you for your helpful criticism, i will keep this in mind :)

Soooo tempted to downvote due to the header...

Buyers usually don't help when lowering a price, and sellers above your listed price should be called unsolds.

Note-- some of your sellers seem to be young or unbumped.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25169680 - 15 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25173549 - 7 hours

Not bad... though you may have countered your self... Neutral for now.

thank you for your helpful criticism, i will keep this in mind :)

No prob .o/

I'd recommend to edit your trade. Get rid of the junk at the top and place them on the bottom. you'll be blindly downvoted if you dont get rid of them.

thanks for the additional info! i shall <3

...unless you want to be a troll... ehhh screw it, you'll do well as a pricer in the future.

I was actually buying one of these for myself yesterday and saw 5-10 of them for 1.55, including the one I bought.

Counterproof:

http://postimg.org/image/6qkjgsqrx/

2x 1.88 sales without needing to bump at all. You should probably just close this. Good effort though. :>

thanks for your feedback :) i shall close this, ill probably make another one tho, it rlly needs a drop its too hard to sell at 2 ref from what ive seen