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Counter-Manipulation is fun! :D
Sale #1: 10 * 0.9 = 9 buds
Sold for a KaW Team Captain
Backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198119341815?time=1418630400
Backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198119341815?time=1418764873
Sale #2: 3.2 * 0.9 = 2.9 buds Rounding to 3
Sold for a Molten Mallard Salty Dog
Backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066714498?time=1418396273
Backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066714498?time=1418803200
Sale #3: 4.5 * 0.9 = 4.1 buds Rounding to 4
Sold for a Frostbite Drill hat
Backpack before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198050785450?time=1418310352
Backpack after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198050785450?time=1418371200
Mini for Drill hat: 4.5 buds
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54ef8fa8b98d887f328b4d38
This makes me happy.
lol some nerd offered this for my dbd antlers, glad I rejected
If you didn't reject it, I'd have to smack you.
Both these price suggestions are bad. Using 3+ month old sales with modern pricing (if they are priced).
Just leave the thing unpriced until there is a more recent sale.
lol? They're not outdated otherwise I wouldn't have used them. You're just mad because I countered it and put a legitimate suggestion up to make it ~3.5 buds
Also, must I ask what other suggestion you're referring to when you say "Both these price suggestions are bad."?
The other suggesting im refering to is the one put up by zxvipers.
This is far from legit, both are. You have 3 month old sales with hats that weren't priced at the time or their prices have changed dramatically. In fact, you're actually referencing a price that you are suggesting so that alone is not valid. Even if you throw out the age of the sales, you have 2 sales with confirmed prices that differ by 7-10 buds (depending on pricing). There is no accurate measure for this hat atm. For the record, I never asked zxvipers to put up that suggestion. If I did, why would I ask him to put the price at 4 buds under my B/O?
The only problem I had with you on the last suggestion was you claiming my hat wasn't themed.
"The only problem I had with you on the last suggestion was you claiming my hat wasn't themed." Yet you assume to think it is? Anyway, that's not why we're here. We're here to suggest prices. Now, yes, I'm going to be cocky as I'm more than certain this will get accepted.
For today, any sale made between now and November 26th are more than valid. Don't try to tell me that these sales are older than 3 months as they're not. Also, I have no idea where you're getting 7-10 bud price differences. If you're referring to the TC then it was outdated in December and would have required a mini. That mini would've been ~10 buds. Again, you're trying to doubt a suggestion without knowing what you're talking about. There also is most definitely an accurate measure for this hat and I've supplied it. I don't care if you asked your friend to price this or not. He chose to price it, and do a terrible job. I also don't know what he was thinking when he chose to make a range as he only had 1 sale. Where did the other value come from? Anyway my point is that I made the suggestion, if that's a big problem, counter it or try to explain why you're right even after I just showed you why you're wrong.
The price diference I was refering to was between the TC sale and the Duck Salty Dog sale. Those are the only two sales with a price currently listed.
I never said the sales were older than 3 months, I said they are 3 month old sales. In every "proof" you have, it shows the user's backpacks from 3 months ago. The problem I have with this 3 month span is that the hats sold at the time were not priced (except for the TC) until 3 days for the other salty dog. That is the only accepted price of your two low trades, the other hat is currently in suggestion by you. To say those are the same prices as 3 months ago when the effects were new and hype was high is assinine.
You can keep trying, but I'm pretty sure this will get accepted.
^ Has yet to disprove a single one of my arguments and just arbitrarily claims correctness
I don't care about your arguments. You keep saying the sales are older than 3 months. If a hat is outdated at the time of sale, it needs a mini, the mini here would be the updated prices. Now please, stop trying to tell me I'm wrong.
Again I have NEVER said the sales are older than 3 months! I have NEVER said the hat price was outdated at the time of the sale. There was no price set at the time of sale for 2 of your proofs and the TC price was set at 13-15 buds. I don't understand what's hard to understand. If you feel as if the TC price was outdated at the time of sale, then the burden of proof is on you.
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You continue to arbitrarily claim correctness while consistantly providing red-haring type responses.
Cause I really don't care what you're saying. Gonna be honest. I really just don't care. It doesn't matter if the TC was outdated, if it was higher, it'd be considered even more of an outlier.
Then you have helped me forever prove the ineptitude of this site
I don't care what you're saying because I know the suggestion is right. And you, someone who has never even made an unusual suggestion, is trying to tell me that it's wrong or something, not even sure what you're trying to tell me because you keep talking about the TC being worth 13-15 buds.
Well if you were able to read what I have said about 3 times, at the time of sale when I sold my TC for the Salty Dog, the price of the TC on here was 13-15 buds. Since then, that price has changed.
Holy shit.. You obviously don't get it. If it was even higher, then it'd be considered an outlier even more. You're basically trying to tell me that I should make the range 3 - 14 buds. I'm not gonna do that, because that would be extremely idiotic. I read that you said it was 13-15 and I continued not to care as it doesn't matter if it was even higher, but you don't seem to understand that.
So 33% of your proof is outlier, another 33% of your proof is an unconfirmed price. I have never said that your price range should be 3-14 buds. I'm saying that your price range, or any price range, is incorrect as any and all previous trades occurred when there was an older price point set (e.g. the sale with the TC), or no price points (e.g. your other 2 sales). Again, you continue to throw out red-haring answers.
If you're going to reply to this, please read carefully what I said. If you don't care, then you should never be making price suggestions in the first place as you don't have a firm grasp on logic.
I just wanna tell you something, logic normally doesn't mean shit here. There are rules, which are logical, so I guess you could say their is logic. And I care about the suggestion, I just don't care what you're saying as it's only telling me things I already know. You can believe what you want, but I've done the other 155 unusual suggestions the same way I made this one, and they all passed. Just give it some time, it'll all pan out. :)
pls stop being salty because you paid 10 buds for this
you make a good unusual suggestion if you think you're so smart
Can't tell who you're replying to.
Hoid. The reply lines ran out XD
Ohh, I was gonna say, I've done a lot of unusual suggestions before.
my only unusual suggestion is this http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54e4c141b98d88e77f8b4d3c
i wonder who downvoted it...
Yeah, that's not even a real item..
not even this? http://backpack.tf/stats/Collector's/Burned%20Banana%20Peel/Non-Tradable/Non-Craftable/13
sorry to spam
And as I said in the last suggestion :
"The TC was outdated at the time of the sale, meaning that the actual price was closer from the reality at the time"
You overpaid, your sale is an outlier, and you just don't want to admit your mistake.
Oh god, I thought you were him because I saw TC and other crap.
ew forced theme
How is this suggestion still open? It's been 8 days
Because the frost bite drill is incorrect Im just waiting for a mod to tell me what i should do.
Ah ok. Nevertheless, I thought you should know I sold the salty dog for well above this suggested price. Sold my unpriced hat with a B/O of 16 buds + ~1 bud in mixed for his unpriced hat with a b/o of 16 buds.
My BP before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198041368829?time=1425456000
My BP after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198041368829?time=1425628800
His BP before: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198084871730?time=1425542400
His BP after: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198084871730?time=1425628800
Screenie of the sale: http://imgur.com/gallery/FI9G9jT
My OP trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25258767
His OP trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25243094