Suggestion: Power Surge Western Wear at 15 keys

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~36 keys

surge

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This suggestion was accepted Mon, 23 Mar 15 04:45:09 +0000 by polar.

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Only sale in months, Sold to a Western Wear Collector for 15 keys; none on outpost for sale

proof : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25202653#my

http://www.pic-upload.de/view-26314476/WW-PowerSurge.jpg.html

Thanks for your time and attention

NOTE : thanks to everyone who commented here,leave the final judgement to the mods,thanks!

Something tells me this is an extreme outlier. I'd pay 20 keys for that hat and have no problem moving it, I'm sure.

EDIT: Just checked the hat's history:

http://backpack.tf/item/1705564468

There are two more places where that hat was put into a different inventory, indicating there may be two more valid sales. I'd check into those before taking this as its price. Make double sure the last two sales were in the same area.

those sales happened almost 2-3 months ago,and they're not valid proof at all,as they're too old.

Anything under three months is fair game. If you only have a single sale, it's only valid if there are no other sales in the pas three months. All of these are in that timeline.

EDIT: Checked both of the other "sales" that happened within three months, but neither of the other two are traceable, so nothing on their part is required.

Still not sure that 15 keys is a solid sale. It still seems a tad bit low to me. =/

1) Rules are a guide,they aren't supposed to taken/applied literally,i've experienced it by myself on this site, if sales are 2-3 months old they're often not considered

2) You said that this is "an outlier"...Outlier compared to...what exactly?

3) This hat went to a collector for a pure price; a pure price is more reliable than an unusual/mixed sale for obvious reasons

4) if something is wrong with this suggestion,i'll leave it to the mods

Okay, here's the problem:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25202653 - the trade for the western wear.

It sold in a day. Like literally, a day. That's a quicksale. The sale before it was also a quicksale: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24358380

And so was this...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24341890

Literally everything here is a quicksale. We kinda just have to work with what we've got though. 15 is the most common trading point, and even if it's quick, there's not really an indicator of a higher value.

The only problem is that it doesn't line up with other Power Surge hats and/or other Western Wears. It would place this hat far below the others when it comes to price.

I think it may be wise to wait for another sale before making a judgement on this particular hat. =/

I guess the only indicator we can look at would be the trends of the Western Wear and the effect Power Surge, but even then that's nothing static.

This price is such an enigma. T.T

I would also say it should be higher , BUT as i/we have seen so insanely many times here on the holy bible own opinions doesnt count for anything, only proof does. A sale is a sale, so upvote from me ;)

I also think this seems low.

I'd also like to leave this here:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/54cb8266b98d88403a8b4848

Low compared to what? Nothing. Also the hat went quickly because it went into a collector's backpack; xenia maybe bought that WW immediately for that price also because is rarely listed on sites like bp.tf and outpost.

Low compared to other hats with the same effect, as well as compared to other Western Wears.

http://backpack.tf/unusuals/Western%20Wear

Average price on your typical Western Wear is currently sitting at 2.4 Buds. That would mean this effect falls below the average, meaning it would rank amongst Smoking and Kill-a-Watt, which is not traditional for Power Surge.

http://backpack.tf/effects/Power%20Surge

Your average Power Surge hat has an average of 4.46 Buds. Placing it at 15 keys would rank this hat in the bottom percentile, amongst low-tier hats such as the Coupe Disaster, the Pugilist's Protector, and the Janissary Ketche. I'm pretty sure we both know this hat is nowhere near this level of low-tier hats.

No, I'm convinced this was some sort of quicksale. Sure, I don't have another sale to compare it to, but that doesn't mean it can't be a low outlier.

A sale is still a sale nomatter what "range" it is among other ww & compare it to another hats is as far as i know NOT how the bible suggestions works, undless there are some new rules allowing that... But im sure x3n1a (the ww collector) would love it if we go after your point of view and place it a bud or 2 higher than this suggestion despite what it HAVE been sold for lately only with the reason: Thats where it belongs when u compare with other hats and same effects ;)

Cool, so if the 1-of-1 Burning Horrific Headsplitter that exists in the game with no price sells tomorrow to a collector for a pair of Earbuds, it'll be okay to take that as the official price then? Even though it's an all-class hat and it's the best effect in the game?

I mean, it's a PURE sale.

I'm not suggesting that we price this hat higher than you're doing now. I'm suggesting we wait and see if any more sales arise, as this sale is very low and I'm not 100% sure would accurately reflect its actual value.

It's been a series of quicksales. I'm just not sure it's appropriate to price by them is all. =/

hehe that was not what i said mate. but u simply cannot make up your own price only with the reason: that is where it belong. but sinse u wanna make such examples with 1 of 1 hats let me throw one in too: : poisoned shadows modest. everytime it was sold it was around 13 buds despite every single owner of that hat wanted 25-30-40- hell even 50 buds for it it went for that price and even some said QUICKSELL on it it got priced at 13 buds.. proof will allways win over "i think" and "logic" Im not that happy about that as well but apparently thats how this site rules ;)

I'm not trying to make up a price. I'm just insinuating that this sale isn't an accurate representation of the actual value because it was obviously a quicksale.

Also, there's a HUGE difference in a hat QSing for 15 keys and a hat selling for 13 buds when others are trying to price gouge it for an asinine amount. The biggest difference is that Modest actually had multiple sales. I think the two scenarios are too different to compare.

and yet the same thing happened with the modest despite all said QS on it so HUGE difference? nah ;) but as i mentioned erlier "logic" and "i think" got no place in suggestions only valid proof does. and i would really like to know how u can say its a quicksell when it doesnt have a official price on it yet. nothing to compare with besides oppinions . again i only agree with u it should be higher valued but its still around this price it have been sold for collector or no collector so the proof is valid.

Also, will leave this here too, as Julia has done: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/547a39d8b98d88796e8b460a#comment-5482175aba8d881a588b45ec

The only problem with this one, that the others don't have, is that this probably won't sell again, which is why I believe 15 keys should be okay. So what if it doesn't line up with the other Western Wears?

Only pure sale. None for sale on the market. We don't have solid justification for calling this an "outlier." It can get a new range when it sells again.