Suggestion: Strange Haunted Moccasin Machinery at 6 keys

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~2.3 keys

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This suggestion was closed Tue, 24 Mar 15 22:13:33 +0000 by polar.

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why not ?

http://i.imgur.com/UvkOzFA.png - 6 keys (btw it's not me,don't give me hate just cuz you think i own it)

supporting:

http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Haunted%20Moccasin%20Machinery

latest sale is 12.89 eur = buyer pays 6 keys - seller gets 5~

$8 on market, downvote, if this was the price, the market should be around $14.94 ($2.49*6).

the steam community marked is a completely different thing compared the metal marked. it cannot be used as any proof in any way or form...

The SCM, for an item like this, must represent the market as well.

If this item sold for 6 keys yet the SCM shows 5 or so keys then it's going to be price too high.

O_O

confirmed by me, i paid this stuff. just didnt want hate on my own suggestion

Poor Baddy, always getting hate for your Halloween suggestions. At least the sale isn't going unnoticed. :)

people are obviously jealous of my unnecessary amount of halloween items.

its amazing the ammount of people who don't know a damn about rare items and then get surprised with an item like this -.-

ayway I can confirm I sold it for 6 keys :p

At first I thought this said 6 ref..................

Who wouldn't want to pay 6 Keys for this?

( ͡͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °) people who dont have keys to waste.

I think you mean "people who don't have the keys to spend." We throw money at anything.

i mean who doesn't love wasting six keys on a holiday restricted item!

I sure do.

I've spent well more than 6 keys on holiday restricted items. I have around 400 2013 Halloween items, most being the unique tradeable versions.

But you're Draco ;_;

Same here, haha.... I had to look at it again.

me too!------------------------------------

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25298125

SCM also supports this.

that outpost sale the sale

Thank you for rising my bp. Upvote

I own 10.

You own 10 out of the 278 visible ones. Congrats

Has a spell, does it matter?

not really,spells are pretty much worthless when applied

It should, but apparently it doesn't. ;_;

If baddy owns 10 of these, what did he pay for the other 9? Something seems a bit phishy here...

i bought them all a while ago, like most of my others. this is the only usable one

Eh. Not sure if SCM is actually supporting. Until a few days ago they were all selling at ~1 key.

yeah, but that often happens, hats are low one day then they suddenly rise.

And they drop too. Will leave this up for a while to see what happens

looks like one just sold for £8.62 on scm, which is roughly 5.75 keys

Going to leave this up for at least a week to see what happens.

might be irrelevant and a really useless comment, but i need to confess that i love when you say this.

Looks like another just sold for £8.30, which is about 5.5 keys. Also, the one on classifieds for 6 keys has gone, possibly sold? There is a new one for 2 keys, but I already sent him a trade offer so it will be a quicksale.

really? just 1 guy sell for 6 keys and you want to vote it in 6 keys 0.o

2 sold on the market for 5-6

Then a range is needed.

You can't have a range basing on a SCM sale

I don't think you understood me.

I meant; if there has been sales (on the market, sure - supportive proof) which shows that there should be a range or that 6 keys flat isn't the best price then this should either be closed or re-looked into.

EDIT: And the fact there's a 2 key seller on classifieds is also counter proof. > http://gyazo.com/2e92be26f161b14af9471d0c390d967e

This suggestion is just leaking with failure.

I already sent the 2 key seller a trade offer, so it will be a quicksale. And there are no non-SCM sales to give it a range.

http://gyazo.com/133522a73246d276d7aa389113b646da

what?

It's my response to your statement.

SCM pretty much supports this price. 3 sales at £8 - £9ish, one being today.

instead of calling anything a "failure", i should suggest you read all the comments first

http://prntscr.com/6jvkma

I find it funny how you counter yourself here:

http://prntscr.com/6jvkma < Bottom line.

http://i.imgur.com/GYSnhqd.png < I underlined it

that's a joke right ?

i said that 3-6 would be a better range with the current proof,yes.

however i have no intention of re-suggesting before i get some mod input.

edit: the suggestion was made with only the OP trade + scm sale at 5-6~. at the time,6 would be most reasonable

I bought one of these for 5 ref a few days ago... Holy crap.

underrated post that changes all previous evidence is underrated

If anything, my lucky buy was an outlier. I got it by luck, and wasn't aware of the rising prices of 2014 Haunted items.

i wish i could have gotten it

also, if it helps, in the trade, he wouldn't even do 5 keys

your supporting shows the price was low before 4th Mar, and now 10 days later become 6 keys because 2 people bought it. Where is the other sellers in the market selling within a key?

they quicksold

that's obvious

You mean every single sales from 10th Oct 2014 to 4th Mar 2015 are all quicksold and obvious??

OMG that is what you call obvious!!

Just quote what Polar said"Going to leave this up for at least a week to see what happens."

The selling price has dropped to £5.44 by now, just wait and see together XD.

please link me any sales from 10th oct to 4th march

i know i can't find em

also i'd buy any that appears <1 key easily

The supporting posted by you and you dont even know??

Go Zoom graph--->Life time

ah you mean the SCM sales ? it's just supporting,it's not the main proof :3 hence i did 6 flat,and not 5-6 based on SCM (at the time)

find me OP sales to invalidate my sale

When you post a suggestion, you should find the proof yourself and post them here and I will make my decision base on what you give, and which is your supporting. If you have more proof post it here.

downvote for all i care.

this is a tricky suggestion,and the judgment will be solely on the mod who accepts/declines it

Needs a raise, but plenty of places to find for less than 6 keys.

Plenty of places to find for less than 6 keys eh?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/242503771 - none on outpost

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Moccasin%20Machinery&quality=13&tradable=1&craftable=1 - only 1 on classifieds and it's 6 keys

http://bazaar.tf/search/?s=30527&sg=440&sp=quality=13 cheap ones on bazzar! Also SCM sales are not valid proof for a price suggestion, it is stated in the rules.

SCM can be supportive proof (that's also stated in the rules)

i wanted to buy that one from bazaar,guess what - it's sold

This is obviously attempted price manipulation, as suggester is friends with baddy who bought like 5 of them on march 14th. Baddy why dont you post pics of the price you paid for them on that date to support your proof. since obviously you bought them all to control the market. (check history in his backpack)

he said that he owns 10,i don't see an issue

i heard a guy had 50

its an issue when he has bought many after suggestion was made for a lower price to control the price without showing proof of sale. this is mega fishy.... ill dig deeper to get the prices of the ones he bought after suggestion, but i bet this price wont hold....

ok looks like he bought them all around Halloween, he just hasnt logged in a long time... That one sale seems off the wall at 6 keys and an $8.00 scm sale doesnt support 6 keys so take it how you want

solds at SCM support it

sellers don't

however it's obvious that the current price is bad

I haven't bought any since this suggestion, so don't accuse me of shit.

Apparently you dont know how to read baddy, maybe you should look at all the comments...... And scm solds dont support 6 keys either

can you tell me what supports 5 ref

So beacuse 5 ref isnt valid you suggest 6 keys, come on man...... never supported 5 ref and i really dont care anymore, have fun suggesting outrageous prices to help your buddies :) dont expect a reply to whatever bs you respond with

That is how it works. If there is nothing to support 5 ref, you would suggest a price which is valid.

You said I bought 5 on March 14th, which is a lie...

Just bought one here.

http://i.imgur.com/CFFlZSj.png - Sold along with 2x haunted vampyro (4 keys) + haunted lollichop (3 keys, totaling 0.6 buds) for pro minigun (1 bud on SCM), bushi dou, TC, white KE, vintage modest and purple graybanns ~ 1.5 - 0.6 = 0.9 (10 keys, outlier).

Highest price raise 2015

way too high, a temp shortage of these in the market does not beget such a massive price increase. These have sold consistently for 1-2$ on the market for ages until the last week or two. they are a slow sell, and there is no hype over these. i had one not too long ago and it was literally impossible to sell. and we all know there's always that one guy who will pay any price for something not common on the market the second he wants it.

i'd support 1, maybe 2 key range with proof beyond a single listed sale and temp scm shortage.

if we used this logic for other limited number things like collector's weapons they would price at something like 2-5x as much, being things that aren't always on the market and have shortages, have the aspect of being sought by collectors who dont care about price, and are limited number items.

ive sold collectors and similar things for 2-10x their bp.tf price pure and on scm multiple times, but it didnt warrant price changes, because it was not the bulk of the history of sales for that item.

Find proof for 1 to 2 keys

Theres one listed for 7,75€

http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Haunted%20Moccasin%20Machinery

Painted after eight, sold for 1 Key:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198044486065?time=1425377056

http://i.imgur.com/xr5uYk1.png

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25025632

6 is most likely an outlier, with the SCM Listing at $8 being listed for more than a day too.

That is going to be an outlier.

Whats preventing 6 keys from being the outlier?

The SCM sales. To be honest, if there was a sale at around 3/4, that would be easier. 1 is too low, but 6 is too high.

There's a recent sale at ~3, and two unsolds at ~3.5(talking about the Steam Market btw)

This may have been fine before(tbh, the two sales at 6 might have been suggestion hype) but it looks high now.

where is the sale at 3?

Tbh this suggestion looks like an attempt at manipulation.

Outlier. Clearly.

Aaand SCM is clearly NOT supporting you. Already two sellers at <8€ .

What's so clear about it? 2 SCM sales at 5-6, and one 6 key pure sale. None at less, only thing to support less than 5-6 keys is SCM, which can't be used as primary proof.

lol what the hell. Jumps from 5 ref to 6 keys.

2014 halloween stuff bruh. they super rare.

bro but thats too much of a jump, and if i kept my halloween stuff from this year, i could make a big profit too?

exactly, they're so rare that people would pay crazy prices on them.

Some servers do let people see their Halloween items, so it's possible to see haunted items all year long. It's also true people are creatures of habit and stick to the same servers. So, I can see why this item would get in a key range. 6 keys? Meh! But, I also see some hats going for buds with effects I would classify as below average.

wtf .... proof???????? backpack.tf/rules

How abouut you go read the rules.

are you an idiot?????????????????????

Yo, nerd. go read the rules, it's your speciality aint it?

free points!!!!!!!!

then make a counter if you don't like it

so after 12 days of this suggestion open

there is 1x OP trade: 6 keys

there are 2 SCM sales at 5-6 keys

there are 3 SCM recent sales at 3~ keys

quite intriguing

yet another SCM sale at 4~ keys

Should be pretty easy to prove out if 6 keys is a legit price just listing few on them on outpost, and someone here has quite a bunch of them, there is a classified @6 right now tho.

with the new SCM sales a range of 3-6 would be most convenient,tho i'd like to hear mod input.

also there is enough sales that we don't have to somewhat "manipulate" with your "method"

It's not manipulative, I think it happens fairly often to put on the market something just to see how it sells.

how long will this be up O.o

Probably not as long as mike's suggestion for the strange loch lasted, we should get a mod reply anytime now.

'anytime now'

5 ref to 6 keys wow. Im late to get profit... dammit

one on classifieds for 6 keys sold? or just taken down? can't remember name of the seller.

bought one for 5 ref a few days ago

downvote

seller didn't list it on OP. with i can't tell how much it needed

SCM sales are from 3+ keys,5 ref is easily an outlier

That's strange and has a spell.

all new halloween items are strange - and spells are pretty much worthless

Just because the market is selling for that high doesnt mean anything.

In fact there only selling for about 3-4 keys not 6 keys!!!!!

Also no seller/buyer proof

Why isn't he banned or this trade removed?

because i'm waiting for mod input if 3-6 is acceptable

there is a clear sale at 6 keys and the market is varying from 3-6

calm down.

I'm thinking a range would be better. The further SCM sales are indicating the 6 key trade was an outlier. That said, current price is demonstrably too low. I believe a wide range would be the best way to accommodate a better valuation while avoiding pricing solely on what is likely an outlier.

so you are implying 3-5 ?

I thought that SCM sales can't be used in a range, but only to support a range?

You don't have sellers for proof, unless you are lowering a price. You clearly don't know that. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/550cb54bba8d88af188b456e There is proof, and the only 3/4 sellers are on SCM and they already sold.

Really? Just Why

because tf2 trading. never heard of it?

classified seller at 2 keys

I've sent him the trade offer, so just waiting for him to accept. It would be a quicksale though.

Damn it, looks like someone else got it.

wow like what the fuck

someone should just close this suggestion - the only evidence is against it

in what way?

the fact that i picked one up for 5 ref, the fact that's you've been picking them up for similar price. Of course, you will overpay on last one you buy, which you'll them provide as 'evidence' for the new price. That's your formula right, as you started doing a few days ago once called out on it? Some would call it 'price manipulation'. e.g. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/551062aab88d886d548b4687 & http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55105706ba8d885f7e8b468c & http://backpack.tf/vote/id/550f0043b98d884c228b45b0 &

my last buy last buy was 7 ref, which was about 1.5 months ago

okay i'll correct myself, some would call it 'systematic price manipulation', this vote just coincidentally coincident with your goals. Please do comment on the other links above? Buying 65 of an item and submitting the last one as evidence, a classic, ballsy :D - For some reason your suggestions get past the admins despite many previous uses of the phrase by a variety of people on your suggestions.

Assuming you are talking about halloween kills, that 8 ref sale was the only recent one. Feel free to check them all.

Sales are all over the place. It seems from 5 ref to 6 keys. SCM has this tabbed somewhere right in the middle, which makes this even harder. We'll need to wait for more sales to figure out where this should really be. The votes being as bad as they are doesn't help either.