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Pretty representative of the price after all of the offers. #420BlazeIt
Wayne. Just stop. I'm not going to get into an argument with you.
Everybody else, keep this thread relevant to the item. I've seen the other suggestions.
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The Sales
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25249455 - Sold (along with a Green Energy HazMat Headcase) for...
3 Secret to Everybody Solder Stashes (2 Duped, 1 Clean) and a Duped Burning Flames Stahlhelm.
22.95 + 22.95 + 29.43 + 35.25 = 110.58 * 0.9 = 99.522 -> 99.5 - 57.5 = 42 Buds.
Proof of Wayne's Backpack: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197966756586?time=1425801600
Proof of Alter's Backpack: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198041060358?time=1425805617
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The Mini Suggestions
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Clean Secret to Everybody Soldier Stash: (No sales, unless it involves disclosing paypal transactions. Taking the freshest sale for the Clean Stash.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23800934 - Sold for The Ooze Mercenary's Mohawk (31.5) + 15 Keys in Paint. (1.2 Buds | 13 Keys = 1 Bud at the time.)
31.5 + 1.2 = 32.7 * 0.9 = 29.43.
Proof: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048493901?time=1418198400
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Duped Secret to Everybody Soldier Stash: (None in the past three months. Taking the freshest sale for the Duped Stash.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24070381 - Sold for a Stare from Beyond Brotherhood of Arms (25.5)
25.5 * 0.9 = 22.95.
Proof: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198013095772?time=1418284800
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Burning Flames Stahlhelm:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24531193 - Sold for a Death at Dusk Dread Hiding Hood (32.5) + 6 Buds Pure.
32.5 * 0.9 = 29.25 + 6 = 35.25.
Proof: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198059269644?time=1421710913
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(Note: Clean Stash was from December 10th. Duped was from December 11th. This is the most recent information I could find.)
Looks good.
Thanks mate. c:
Your kidding me right? Why have you decided to go on a vendetta of pricing all my unusuals horribly low? Just stop. Its not a game used to annoy or get at people. These suggestions are for accurately pricing unusuals not your silly little games (for god knows why) 23 for the stashes your kidding this is pathetic. At the time of the sale of the BoA it was unpriced and they were asking 40. Wayne had much higher offers on the hunter. I had much higher offers on the stashes, this is a joke.
Actually, I'm not doing that. This was actually a random coincidence and actually was dared by one of my friends in this suggestion game I was having with them on the Skype Call. They pick out a random unusual and this happened to be one of them.
The Professional Ushankas were a goal I was going to price anyways. You just happened to have several on you. I'm not entirely devaluing your unusuals at all, I'm just pricing them. As I told you before in another suggestion, you can happily sell them for whatever you want. Just don't get upset with me, because I'm actually taking the time to price the unusuals for what they are, based on what proof is available.
Adding to that same deal with the mohawk and all these overpay multipliers your pulling numbers from your head and making assumptions for the only sake of voting my stuff lower. Why?
Because if Person A leaves an offer and Person B accepts it, then that is called item overpay.
If it was Person B reaching out to Person A, offering the item in question, then there is no item overpay at all.
Damn, Someones butthurt bout their unusual not getting priced the way they want it ;^)
Regardless, the evidence is here and this is likely getting accepted. sorry if it's not the amount you were hoping for or spent originally
Its horribly innacurate, wrong and this is a repeated thing. Im not butthurt and keep your useless comments to yourself
Just stop. You're both starting unnecessary drama.
I was monitoring Wayne's offers carefully. This is the highest offer he had by a considerable margin.
Translation: Wtf i bought this unusual and I wanna make profit so please take down this suggestion.
Ok, price as you please. Ill just keep trading while you guys argue. :)
lol, 42 buds a coatJust some counters because I don't think the coat is going to be worth 42 buds only.
Miss-calculations, ignore this comment and carry on.
Those calculations are all incorrect.
Pencils are unpriceable, so invalid
KE he was offered was duped, was priced at 30 at the time
Morning Neckwear has sold twice previously with B/Os of 20 and 23, Lucky is 6
Viewfinder is 32 buds
Hell-fire Mohawk was bought for the offer below it, a DUPED Burning Samur-eye (est. ~28)
Ergo no higher offers than this by a long shot. You've countered nothing, only proven it to be worth about this much otherwise it wouldn't have sold for it.
*sigh* The trading community is getting ripped off day by day. It's lucky for me that I've quit unusual trading already.
By all means, looks like this is getting to make sense. Placing my vote up even though
i still dont think a coat is worth 42 budsI'd sass you but I can only imagine the mods are monitoring this suggestion like a hawk.
You told me to check the backpack.tf price so I did. And it invalidated everything you said.
Long forgotten that unusual hats can be duped. Heh, 'unusuals'.
Just analyzing the 50 Offers:
>Mohawk is unpriced. Invalid to say 50, unless proof is given of that.
>Samur-Eye (47) + Buddy (1) = 48 Buds.
>Viewfinder is 32 buds. Just recently priced.
I don't know what Wayne was smoking, but it hardly reaches around 50.
Once overpay is applied to the hats in the minis it should not be applied to those hats again when calculating the final price since the price after overpay is considered to be the pure equivalent. Applying it again would be like applying overpay to pure.
State the rule to that. I'm certain they can be knocked down again by item overpay to calculate the actual price.
Because this suggestion was recently accepted by doing that: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5500a12bb88d885f448b49fb
It was discussed here, http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/29924-clearing-up-the-no-overpay-on-items-twice-in-a-suggestion-rule/
Edit: Just pointing this out since it seemed it would make a significant difference. I don't know how smaller suggestions vs. higher ones matters for the rule but Gent is a much more experienced suggester than I so maybe it doesn't matter here.
That logic seems flawed. Because I can go price something very easily and then use that price on another suggestion (that happens to have that priced hat and it already been accepted) and be like "oh, it's alright guys, I just priced this. No item overpay is necessary." That wouldn't work in that situation.
This is true of smaller suggestions. However here where multiple unusuals were involved it is anticipated a higher degree of overpay to be customary.
The ''rule'' you're referring to was point blank stated to be up to the judgement of the suggester.
Duped burning stahl is way too high. I owned it for 2 months. It's definitely not 35. Probably because the hood is inflated now.
Anyways, I have a mini on the stahl here - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6817-bpbs-mini-suggestion-thread-for-gifted-duped-hats/.
That changes your value by 10 buds here which is why complex sales like these shouldn't be used in the first place. The sale is just way too complex to use to price any one hat involved.