Suggestion: Strange Old Man Frost at 5 ref

Price Suggestion

Strange Old Man Frost

Submitted Wed, 18 Mar 15 19:10:08 +0000 by ★ Hexlicious

89.93%

5.55 ref

5 ref

~1.8 keys

134 votes up

15 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Wed, 18 Mar 15 23:28:07 +0000 by A Delicious Cashew™.

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Seller - 5.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25403207

Unsold - 5.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25375328

Seems that half of your evidence is contrary to your suggestion...

Which half? Cryptic remarks aren't very useful.

dude this is bp.tf, people who dont know what they are talking about have to be cryptic to get their point across ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Red, I apologize for being "cryptic", I feel it is obvious I was referencing the link that shows a seller looking for 5.55. Out of two links, (one that shows a seller looking for 5 ref, one that shows a seller for 5.55, nearly 2 rec above his suggestion), half of his evidence is contrary to his suggestion.

Half of his evidence is proof of the price. The other half is proof that 5.55 shouldn't be in the range. I don't know what you find 'contrary' to his suggestion.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25387407[/url] selling for 5.66

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25392416[/url] selling for 5.66

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25325309[/url] selling for 8 ref

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25257398[/url] selling for 1 key

"Contrary" was too strong a word. I find one unsold not enough proof to lower a price, especially when so many people are looking for higher than standard bp.tf price anyway. One of his links is proof that people still look for bp.tf price (one of the many from outpost).

Again, one unsold at bp.tf price should not be enough to alter a price, and one trade below shouldn't be enough to lower bp.tf price.

Also, forgive me, I am certainly not seasoned at suggesting prices, but how is one unsold enough proof that 5.55 is an incorrect price? Wouldn't his 5 ref suggestion be a price outlier, rather than proof that the price should be changed?

I could tell you why none of that is valid counter-proof, but I feel like that would result in me having to explain the entirety of how the site works, and that really isn't worth my time. So why don't you have a look at this instead? http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/792-how-to-make-a-good-suggestion/

"You have to provide multiple links of proof: one trade does not represent the entire market!"

"'Unsolds'—trades which have been trying and failing to get a certain price—should only be used as evidence if they are old (a few days at least). Unsolds without autobumps aren't always good representatives of the market. Unsolds by themselves are not very conclusive"

Which is basically what I've been trying to say this whole time: one seller looking for 5 and one unsold at 5.55 doesn't constitute a price drop.

So yes, if you do have the time, explain to me why none of my multiple links are valid. If they aren't valid, I will happily retract everything I've said.

"People can list whatever they want as a buyout: if no one buys at that price then buyouts don't mean anything. Untaken buyouts below current range, however, can be a sign that a price should be lowered."

That's why your links aren't valid.

Need solds

No I don't.