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thankyou for the help guys
[url]http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/32316-from-the-bptf-mods-the-volatility-of-buds-and-how-we-will-look-at-item-pricing/[/url]
That is a post by 'the best kind of bear' (bptf mod) saying that It can be priced in keys and not buds.
UNUSUAL (thanks to MegaGenta [url]http://backpack.tf/u/76561198045388088[/url])
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25263176[/url] Sold + NnB Ten Gallon + Peace Tossle for Harvest AA
4th Mar 2015
buds were = 12
23 - (2.75*0.9) - (2*0.9) = 18.725
18.725 x 12 = 224.7 keys
The AA was last priced 2 years ago, so this might be bloated a lot, but it is 2 of 2 and the asking price is 230 keys.
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24660671[/url] Sold + Scorching L'inspecteur + P.Fetti Kabuto for Sunbeams Kabuto
19th Jan 2015
buds were = 15
16.75 - (2.95*0.9) - (5.74*0.9) = 8.929
8.929 x 15 = 134 keys
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24925937[/url] Sold + Planets Pillar + O.Fire Hoodie for Scorching Tavish Groot
7th Feb 2015
buds were = 12/13 (most buds were selling at 12)
17 - (1.75*0.9) - (2*0.9) = 13.625
13.625 x 12 = 163.5 keys
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25047384[/url] Sold for all of [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25135487[/url]
21th Feb 2015
buds were = 12
1 + 3.3 + 1.53 + 1.7 + 1.4 + 1.7 + 1.6 = 12.23
12.23 x 12 = 146.76 keys
Average of these is 167.24 (not counting first sale as an outlier)
Average without first sale is 148.09 (counting first sale as an outlier)
Average of those two is 157.
RECENT PURE
So I got offered this clean hat for 130 keys.
His post: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24831055
My post: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25371121#latest (his offer)
^that was NOT a quickbuy post in any way^
In that first sale, I also added 2 buds and 10 keys pure.
http://imgur.com/cOFtEN3
With that it would fall within your range (since 18.725 - 2.83 = 15.895).
thanks alot for that. I can't edit my post but I will post a comment with your new and some other supporting evidence. Thanks.
I would be happy if theres no buds anymore, they already die :(
From that same post you're using to justify pricing this in keys...
- If a hat sells for items priced in keys, the sale can be valued in keys after the appropriate amount of overpay. This goes for unusual : unusual trades too. If it sells for another unusual priced in keys, it can be valued in keys. If it sells for an unusual priced in buds, it should be valued in buds.
Besides that issue a great deal of these involved this hat as a component in a bulk deal which are never good sales to use and many of the hats involved, as previously pointed out to you, are outdated and will require a mini or full suggestion.
'I encourage you to go off the more recent of the trades but will ultimately leave it to the discretion of the suggester.'
But you are right - I don't know weather converting them from buds into keys at the price at that time is the way to go here...
I truly think that the price range I gave it this time is much more valid than my last post though.
somebody more experienced can maybe finish this off.
SUPPORTING
[url]http://imgur.com/cOFtEN3[/url]
With that it would fall within range (since 18.725 - 2.83 = 15.895).
[url]http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198125296585?time=1422086400[/url]
Front runner, exe and mullet sold for haz
Front sold for 8 buds - exe is 3 and mullet is on classifieds for 45 keys.
[url]http://i.imgur.com/sX4JrJQ.png[/url]
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23940985
Sold for #2 antlers (around 15 he was asking for)
Thanks to HenTie and Spectreus
Weird convertation from buds to keys when almost all sales were in buds.
Sales at 130, 134, 146, 163, 224 (outlier)
Why 130 keys not in the range, I wonder? Considering you have 2 sales at 130
'I encourage you to go off the more recent of the trades but will ultimately leave it to the discretion of the suggester.'
^conversion^
But turns out that the 'outlier' actually fits into the range with the new evidance.
You are right.
Average of these is 167.24 (not counting first sale as an outlier)
Average without first sale is 148.09 (counting first sale as an outlier)
Average of those two is 157.
That is how I did it.
130 - 150 would have been better.
130 keys pure is the most recent sale and the only sale in keys, but it's still not in the range.
"130 - 150 would have been better." I just admitted that
Suggestion is still open tho.
will repost this