Suggestion: Taunt: The Boston Breakdance at 2.5 keys

bruh, your 2.5 proof is too weak and that huge amount of 3 key seller counters you. why? cause they're the most common trading point, which must be included

good try though

I've realised my mistake of not waiting a little longer, because they're not that many solds at 2.5 Keys. An I did try to put a range on it for 2.5 - 3 keys but it messed up, well more I messed up.

moar proof at lower range please, could be sales so long it takes some time for it to sell so its not a quicksell

Alrighty ^^ I'll see what I can do.

you are basing your price over buyers and quicksellers.

downvote.

Your 2nd 2.5 seller is only half an hour old

Sorry didn't realise silly mistake by me.

just for the record, you dont need buyers when lowering a price of an item

Thank you for telling me I'll remember that.

your first 2.5 seller is gifted and the other is young

adn thoose solds @2.5 clearly shows 2.5 is a QS

They're the only solds I could find sorry. If I find anymore that are non quick solds I'll post them.

anymore sellers at 2.5 keys?

I'll have another quick look around, if I find any I'll post them.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25509427 - Sold 3 of mine for 3 keys.

Also: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25446157 - Sold many for 3 keys, he is a restocker

Easy downvote.

Alright noted don't use restockers I didn't realise he was one, an thank you for the counter proof.

might wanna close this b4 u lose more rep

I would but I'm not finished trying yet xD.

well then, i wish u good luck

Sorry I didn't read this when ya posted it and thank you xP

No probs ;)

just a little update, since you've added 2.5 key sellers, you should leave 3 in cause giang provided sales and 3 looks like a common trade point. hope that helps

Thank you for the support an any advice is always welcome as is any counter proof x3 An sorry for always being late on responding to you >.<

keep on trying to lower it I am sure you ll make it.you can manipulate anything if you focus enough mate. keep up the good work. /s

New seller @ 2.5 Keys http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511843 (Extremely young)

quicksold though...

needs to be cheaper, over time this thing is gonna be in less demand, so lets just lower it now. everyone else will already ahve unboxed, and It'll be in surplus.

The new taunts can't be unboxed and can only be purchased directly from the Mann Co. Store which is the reason they're still reasonably expensive. Then again, they could just be like the Pool Party and have high demand c:

next month, the new Director's Reel will have the new taunts, therefore they will most likely become extremely abundant, causing a price drop. and also, lower Pool Party pls c:

I don't know if they intend to put it in a new crate but if they do, they will indeed drop in price with the flood of Taunts entering the market. However, we're talking about now where they can't be unboxed and we can't simply 'just lower it now'. Especially since it appears that 2.5 keys quicksells with 3 keys selling fine.

The price right now is fine, but we'll need to call a vote to lower it once the new crate comes out. For now, its probably best to wait for the new reel if you want to buy it

we will lower it next month then mate.why you are on a hurry.

Another seller @ 2.5 Keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25513315

Another seller @ 2.5 keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25514104

seller @ 2.5 Keys http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511843 - Sold

Sold @ 2keys 7 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511944

Another seller @ 2.5 Keys - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25513814

A seller @ 2 keys 9 Ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25519440

Seller @ 2 keys 7 Ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25525152

Seller @ 2.3 Keys http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25525203

Seller @ 2.5 keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25525383

Seller @ 2.5 keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25527501

Seller @ 2 keys 8 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25529117

Another seller 2 keys 9 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25530566

Sold for 3 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25510141

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25496042

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25506863

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25446157

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25492074

I have a question for ya just outta curiosity but when ya said. "Also: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25446157 - Sold many for 3 keys, he is a restocker

Easy downvote."

Avatar [F2P] Mr.Giang · posted a day ago

How come you have just used him in your proof, after telling me it was an easy down vote?

And before ya say because he has sold many for 3 keys, the last one I can prove he sold without adding him was

"™kerhS

Mar 28th, 2015 10:11pm

I sent you a trade offer for the Boston Breakdancer taunt 3 keys pure"

2 days ago.

2-day sale is not outdated. For items like this, only 1-week or more can be considered as outdated.

Also, why do you ignore all 3-key sales above? It seems that you don't care about the proofs above and you just want to drop it.

I hadn't looked at them in a while as I have only just updated some of the solds @ 2.5. I do care about the proof. If you have counter proof please feel free to post it. An I only said the last one I can prove sold wise without adding him was 2 days old I didn't say it was invalid, or out dated.

"I hadn't looked at them in a while as I have only just updated some of the solds @ 2.5" - Your updated sales are QS, what is the point of showing it if they are already invalid?

"If you have counter proof please feel free to post it" then what do you think I have done since this suggestion? Rapidly provide counter-proof. With those sales at 3 keys, it's clearly seen that 3 keys is the most common trading point so why do you even remove it out of your price?

I actually did that by accident. I was meant to set the range from 2.5 - 3 keys as I said when I very first posted this, but seen as I can't change it, I used what I have available an since I have I have found a lot of sellers at 2.5, which majority of them have sold as I was intending to do so to support it as a lower range, but I'm glad I haven't closed it as I was about to because it's gone from 3-4 or less sellers to a lot more at 2.5 keys.

Then it's your duty to resuggest at 2.5 -3 keys. Also, I failed to see any valid sellers below 3 keys. Every sellers you have sold the taunt in one day, which counters your suggestion already. Current price is fine.

If you want to make a suggestion at 2.5 - 3 keys and use the proof from this, go for it. It's not my duty to make another suggestion, but it is my responsibility to admit my mistake of messing up with the price suggestion in the first place.

With a ton of QS at 2.5, I don't even try to make 2.5 keys as low-end.

"but it is my responsibility to admit my mistake of messing up with the price suggestion in the first place." - So you admit it, perfect! But we don't give a damn care about it. Making a mistake then just leave it there and don't do anything to fix it is just as bad as making a mistake then don't give a damn admit.

Ya know I love ya determination, but I will leave it to be voted on and provide what I can. An as I said earlier I admitted my mistake from the very start

From your unsolds:

Sold for 3 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25505395

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25504976

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25510105

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25501307

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25507962

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25503650

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25479027

Thank you for that, so 8 sold from my 3 unsolds wish I could update that. But as I said earlier

11 of my 2.5 sellers have sold as well as the seller at 2 keys 6 Ref.

"Sold @ 2.5 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25530566

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511169

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511843

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25513315

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25514104

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511169

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25513814

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25519440

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25525152

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25525383

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25529117 "

"Seller @ 2 keys 6 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25534182 -Sold within the hour of posting"

All of them are quick-sold, which is invalid already. Also, you counter yourself with those QS.

I know I countered myself I won't deny it as I won't deny my mistake earlier. An if all of them are quick sold have a look around for your self there are a lot more keys still unsold at 3, and I've found there are more sellers popping up at around 2.5 keys slightly more or less.

3-key unsold? 3/4 of your unsolds sold it already. What is your point again? Even with sellers at 2.5 keys, they are still invalid because of being QS.

If you want I can find more unsolds at 3 keys a lot easier than I can find sellers at 2.5 keys.

Unsold < Sold. I have provided more than enough solds at 3 keys to counter your suggestion.

Then I guess I will have to provide more.

2.5 ofcourse will sell.they are called quicksells for that reason. also qs are not a valid proof for a suggestion especially for a common item with thousends of trades cause your sells represent not even 1% of the trtades of this items.

2.5 keys is the exception 3 keys the rule.

Sold @ 2.5 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25530566

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511169

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511843

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25513315

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25514104

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511169

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25513814

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25519440

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25525152

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25525383

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25529117

Seller @ 2 keys 6 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25534182 -Sold within the hour of posting

Another seller @ 2.5 keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25532863

i will sell my Boston break dancer for 4 keys or overpaying with hats

Lemme know if it sells.

Seller @ 2 keys 9 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25539285

Hi Giang <3 - I'm not really sure if I should have replied to your discussions rather than a new comment, oh well

Anyway, Furry, from what I've seen, the majority, if not all, of the sellers under 3 keys that were listed have quicksold, some without a bump.

I've been stated as a restocker and that is true. You stated 'the last one I can prove he sold without adding him'. Most people send trade offers with some people adding without posting (even when you tell them to :c)

Personally, I find no problem selling them at 3 keys recently. However, it has been slowing down but I believe that 3 keys is still possible.

http://i.imgur.com/WBijJBW.png

http://i.imgur.com/d5oBAMV.png

http://i.imgur.com/cM8ZE4A.png

http://i.imgur.com/U6aLBg3.png

http://i.imgur.com/lxSEIJZ.png

http://i.imgur.com/eZntFly.png - 4 Keys xD

http://i.imgur.com/BR8soXf.png

I'm not exactly sure what counts as 'outdated' but these were 1 or 2 days old sales.

Da Ekonome, Thank you, for the counter proof <3 An 3 key sales are slowing I've noticed that myself but if these are only 1-2 days old they're still valid. I wanna thank you for providing the counter proof an even a 4 keys sale xD That made me laugh x3

Haha, I'm unsure what happened there. Sometimes if you ask for like 3 keys 10 ref for an item, people may give 4 keys without asking for change to make it easier, but I was asking for 3 keys flat :P

You definitely have a large amount of proof, however I'm not sure if the taunt is ready to drop right now. I'd imagine the suggestion being kept for a few days more and will be accepted then when the market changes (unless a range is needed).

Needless to say, this is a really good suggestion being only your 2nd ^^ (my 2 suggestions were quite easy - 1 sale xD)

Thanks an I still wish I hadn't messed up in the first place it was my intent to make a 2.5 - 3 keys range xD. But Again thank you for the counter proof and thank you for your kind words x3

Just wanted to let you know that I've lowered my selling price to 2 keys 15 ref.

Good to know, thanks for letting me know <3

Seller 2 keys 8 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25471340 - I just realised he was one of the unsolds for 3 keys I had in my list, looks like he dropped his price xP

Unsolds @ 3 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25528073 - 2 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25526091 - 2 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25527090 - 2 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25528729 - 2 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25527630 - 2 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25524405 - 2 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25512656 - 3 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25513400 - 3 days old (Highest backpack.tf price current is 3 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25506288 - 3 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25517827 - 3 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25514418 - 3 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511051 - 3 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25503491 - 4 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25501018 - 4 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25491954 - 5 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25491120 - 5 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25491376 - 5 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25490669 - 5 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25494024 - 5 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25492725 - 5 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25475891 - 1 week old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25461481 - 1 week 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25528073 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25526091 - Unbumped+Gifted

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25527090 - Actually sold w/o bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25528729 - Looks fine

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25527630 - Looks fine

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25524405 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25512656 - Looks fine

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25513400 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25506288 - Looks fine

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25517827 - Actually sold w/o bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25514418 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511051 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25503491 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25501018 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25491954 - Actually sold w/o bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25491120 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25491376 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25490669 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25494024 - Looks fine

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25492725 - Unbumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25475891 - Actually sold w/o bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25461481 - Unbumped

For most of these links, it's fair that they haven't been sold since the majority haven't been bumped since the creation of the trade or unbumped longer than a day

"For most of these links, it's fair that they haven't been sold since the majority haven't been bumped since the creation of the trade or unbumped longer than a day" Thats true and a very fair point.

100keys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seller @ 2 keys 9 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25543453

Seller @ 2 keys 10 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25543844

Seller @ 2 keys 6 refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25545067

Seller @ 2.5 keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25543177

Sold @ 2 keys 9 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25544587

bruh, you need sellers, not solds, because sold = quicksell in under a day, does not help

Noted. Thanks matey <3

btw need sellers at your suggested range =)

At the time I suggested this 2 keys 9 Ref was 2.5 Keys

Now keys are 19, so I gotta look for sellers at around 47.4 Refined, which is 2.5 Keys ATM.

But thanks for the tip x3

Seller @ 2 keys 10 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25545560

This taunt's drop just couldn't be avoided.

Also, a lot of your sellers are for 3 keys, which counters yourself.

They are unsolds and some of the sellers I added that were 3 keys (Unsolds at the time) have dropped their price matey.

An I have countered myself a few times during this xD

Also, a lot of your buyers are at 2 keys and you only have one seller for 2.5 keys.

I'll have to add more buyers at 2.5 keys then xP

Which is proving to be a nightmare because all the buyers are either 2.3 keys, 2 keys or under xD

Seller at 2 keys 7 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25550051

Sold @ 2 keys 5 Ref: http://www.trade.tf/trade/470005861

Seller @ 2 keys 9 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25557684

Seller @ 2 keys 10 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25558768

Seller at 2 keys 9 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25559472

Seller at 2 keys 9 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25559860

due to the counterproof provided, a range 2.5-3 seems like the best here

agreed

2.5-3 seems way better

I agree and that was my original intent x3 I just messed up

Since the aim of everyone in this website are the same, do you mind if I counter your suggestion with your evidence and the counter evidence as well since I don't think you would like to be re-suggesting again.

Ya can counter my suggestion with any evidence ya have matey an everyone keeps tellin me it should be 2.5-3 keys which I agree with xD But I messed the suggestion up at the start.>.<

Seller at 2.5 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25566899

Why would it go down from 3 keys, you can't unbox it yet

Hey sorry I didn't reply to this sooner. But it's what people are selling it for lower than 3 keys, although yes 3 key sales are still possible, they've been slowing down and sellers have started to drop their price. So when I see comment such as the ones above that say 2.5 - 3 keys should be the price I agree with them.

Seller at 2 keys 9 Refined: http://www.trade.tf/trade/469914153

Seller at 2 keys 10 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25568858

i love how a price suggestion for buds has like 20 people talking, but this gets over 100