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Proof 1: So this is the first sale in over 3 months and someone bought one of these just a moment ago.

He paid 12 buds pure and nothing else. Heres the guy http://steamcommunity.com/id/PurpleBearz/


Proof: http://i.imgur.com/H3icnvN.png


Proof 2: I got quite good offers -

- http://i.imgur.com/fUdcN9k.png?1 and if u dont believe my screenshots take a look at this -http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25108433#latest check those trades in the picture.


Houwar+1 bud makes it 12-13 bud offer but i still declined,

    why this range with 1 sale? (where did the 13 come from?)

    This price was updated less than a month ago, thus doesnt really need an update

      i'm sure he's just trying to boost his own BP

    So, you have no sales at 13 for proof of 13 at all.

      obviously wanted to keep it and thought offer can raise up the value, Lol.

      offers =/= proof

        You need sales, offers are not enough.

          It's fine to put high-end based on an offer since it was higher than the sale.

            are you sure ? cuz i'm pretty sure he can't use offers as main evidence

              the sale is the main proof offer is supporting

                but the offer is the only thing supporting the range, so it's considered main proof, and offers can't be used as main proof

              No he can't. Offers cannot form the basis of ranges. That's only possible with sales.

                Yes you can.

                  http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/


                  "Offers

                  Offers alone are not enough to make a suggestion. "


                  Unless i'm missing something, the statement is pretty clear.

                    There was a recent suggestion where the highend was off an offer

                      Was it accepted ?

                        Think so.

                          Link please. I have never in my entire time here seen something accepted with an offer as the high end.

                            | am on my phone

                              If you remember what item it was I might be able to find it.

                                I will look later

                                  Go home baddy you're drunk

                      Yes its offers ALONE which means that i can make high value based on offers but still the 12 bud sold one is proof enough to make this minimum price correct me if im wrong.

                        Thats why i suggested you close and resuggest this at 12 flat. But someone has already countered with additional sale at 11

                        he has a sale as proof too

                          For the low end. Did you even read all my comments?

                      Omg, 5 dislikes.

                      There was a plenty of suggestions where offers were used to set an end on it. The first one which comes to my mind is scorching BoA, check it yourself.

                        Actually he is kinda right, the offer doesn't alone make a suggestion. But when he has a sale lower than the offers it's okay to make the high end off offers. Just like you can't make a suggestion only by B/O's, but you can still use a B/O as low end if it, if it's lower than the sales.


                        Not saying you should.

                      he has a sale the first one is a sale

                      Close and resuggest. Also, i dont think this is the only sale; i feel like i've come across this one a few times while looking for other trades.

                      he got offered a houwar + bud O.O

                        offers don't mean anything unless it actually sold for that

                        not what i meant i was amazed that he didn't take

                          oh lol, yeah i would have taken that in a heartbeat