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hi all

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22282420 sold with Planets Hard Top ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25508249 9keys ) for Amaranthine Pullover

bye all

#riptf2

    Round please.

      you got a point there,however people don't like round prices


      obviously the community is full o' mathematicians.

        These prices are estimates. They are supposed to be rounded to avoid providing a false sense of accuracy.


        Not sure how I got downvotes for stating the right thing.

          that's because you (and me) are physicists.


          that's the right approach anyways.

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25567441 - Offered a Scorching Ground Control and person is willing to add for it. (Hat is 1:1 with old prices.)


      Very certain this hat is NOT worth 220 keys. It's currently accurate with it's price.


      In fact, if you actually looked at this trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25229800

      The person wanted the Amarthane for 550 keys and it was offered on. If anything, a suggestion should be put onto the Amarthane, not this.


      Downvote. I didn't even have to bother wasting five minutes here. It seems the person got sharked out of his Team Captain, because I just paid 350+ keys for a duped one and the clean one has already received a 350+ key offer and has denied it. Give it more time.

      i have duped one but i sold C Moon Kabuto + BF Texas + BF outdoor i add vivid rack + 30 key


      http://imgur.com/A888sMJ


        Mines the same, but he left out the Baker.

          yes i want qs BUT its still more than 219 key

            Yeah. We both know this hat is worth more than 219 keys, especially with the c/o on that clean one.

        this may be an outlier.

          http://backpack.tf/item/1209374810 - Just had this offered on my Team Captain. Very certain this suggestion is some twisted joke.

            yea i was joking with the "may" its an outlier alright.

              Oh. I know. It pisses me off, because I just put down a good amount just for it. :l

                In any scenario, backpack.tf is a guide and not a price. You can set your buyouts to 1000 Keys if you wanted to.

                  Yeah. I already have a few people telling me this isn't going to be accepted, so I'm not worried about it dropping.

                  I'm just pissed that someone barely even investigated and couldn't tell this was an outlier. Let alone, a blue belt.

                  i got alittle scared there because i own one but was like, ive been offered 400 keys in unusuals many times now and i just got it, one outlier sale from many isn't gonna price the hat, the owner of the Amaranthine Pullover is asking 550 keys too, 219 keys for this tc is a no fly zone ;)

                    Yet, you false advertised and said it was clean at one point...

                      i made my appeal already for it, i'm banned till tomorrow, that's nothing even bad to be banned for

                        Just going to say. When you do get unbanned, you may want to revise that advertisement's language, before someone reports you again.

                          i didn't say anything wrong? you started this conversation, i still understand why i got banned, i was just saying i'm getting unbanned tomorrow

            Found one of the old owners randomly on an Australian Trade Server. He told me that he paid 270 keys for a duped one.

            Proof: http://i.gyazo.com/3766cd98db530448fd60154c95cb4166.png

            Proof: http://backpack.tf/item/909945305 (Burning Bicorne, which is heavily outdated. Seems close to the price.)


            That buyer resold it for two Lantern Stashes: (Duped, but definitely around 400 keys.)

            http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056793885?time=1427509512


            Again, if a duped has sold for around 250 to 350 keys and the clean one has offers for 350+, how is this suggestion still going?

              i own a duped one and i have offers in the 400 keys in unusuals :) can provide proof of offers

                Danny's Trade alone has received over 300 key unusual offers already: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25630933

                  Compiling anti-proof. There is no reason this suggestion is still up.

                  I found 15 anti-proofs.

                  Fifteen.


                  Rejected offer of 13th Hour Bomber:

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25601742

                  http://embed.gyazo.com/c73856711675a10f7f1939518c848910.png


                  Rejected: Harvest Moon Tyrolean (200 Keys) + Bonzo Greased Lightning (50) + 10 Keys

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25601742

                  http://gyazo.com/8103636e3910bdf1a02bbc6beb6e78a4


                  Rejected Scorching Ground Control

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25567441


                  Duped got offer of Havest Wraith Wrap

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25566367


                  Holy proof monster: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25630933 This one is duped, and getting these offers.

                  Rejected:

                  Frosbite Kabuto + Stormy Storm Bomber

                  http://i.imgur.com/z83Dl8Q.png?1

                  Arcana Executioner + Orbiting Planets Sola Topi + Smoking Brainiacs ~ 408 keys

                  http://i.imgur.com/Aaqz8xr.png?1

                  Arcana Executioner + Searing Tyrolean ~ 421 keys

                  http://i.imgur.com/ch2nFty.png?1

                  Molten Mallard Pullover + good sweets ~373 Keys

                  http://i.imgur.com/v1Gb6e7.png?1

                  It looks like Danny traded it to UT Mato for a RA Law. http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/653602 Don't know if sweets were involved, need more research there.

                  Credit to Danny for Proof


                  Duped+Vivid rack + 30 key sold for C Moon Kabuto + BF Texas + BF outdoor

                  http://imgur.com/A888sMJ

                  Credit to "When will love come..."


                  Duped sold for 270 keys

                  Proof: http://i.gyazo.com/3766cd98db530448fd60154c95cb4166.png

                  Proof: http://backpack.tf/item/909945305 (Burning Bicorne, which is heavily outdated. Seems close to the price.)


                  That buyer resold it for two Lantern Stashes: (Duped, but definitely around 400 keys.)

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056793885?time=1427509512


                  Rest of Proof Credit to "Owner of the Maple Story" Thanks for getting most of the work done for me Maple :D


                  I apologize if I missed crediting someone, please let me know :)


                  The Amaranthine Pullover needs to be upped.

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25229800

                  He rejected offers of:

                  Burning YWN ~270 Keys

                  RA Nano + RA Liquidators Lid ~220


                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25562405

                  Rejected offers of:

                  Its A Secret To Everybody Private Eye (Demo/Medic/Spy) Multi-Class = 147 keys + Circling Heart Le Party Phantom = 69 keys + Cauldron Bubbles Prancers Pride = 29 keys= ~245

                  Sunbeams Maddendoktor + Kilawatt BOA ~320

                  DBD brother hood of arms + GE trophy belt +25 Keys ~ 240

                  misty skull masters yellow belt and stormy YWN +Set + some sweets ~ 130 +Set+sweets. Not sure exactly.


                  Thanks all.

                  Good luck and safe travels.

                    Because of this suggestion now, I'm starting to get a few lowball offers and using this suggestion to justify the lowball.

                    I thought moderators usually will decide by 14 days, but it is starting to get towards 20 days now of this suggestion.

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25731262 - Clean One was offered this Scout set.

                      Estimated worth of about 400~450 keys in mixed.

                        Using the inflated hats to disprove this range is kind of ridiculous. Aethroz pretty much summarizes the offers, so let's look at them individually.


                        (1) 13th hour bomber suggestion was closed and sales pointed to a range of ~190-300, or 220 after overpay - not higher than the suggested range

                        (2) Harvest tyro suggestion passed putting that sale value at ~170 - less than the suggested range

                        (3) Scorching ground control suggestion passed, putting that at ~240 after overpay. Only slightly above the suggested range

                        (4) Harvest wraith would only be around ~250 after overpay

                        (5) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25630933 - none of the offers here involving the ex are documented

                        (6) http://imgur.com/A888sMJ - duped sale involves the mass duped moon buto and is going to be <200 keys in value

                        (7) http://i.gyazo.com/3766cd98db530448fd60154c95cb4166.png - the duped sale at "270" valuing the burning bicorne at 270 is way off. The last sale on the bicorne was ~200 - http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197977395790?time=1429772400

                        (8) http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056793885?time=1427509512 - previous sale of the duped lantern stashes was for the arcana ex. And it wasn't 2:1 with the stashes. A max was added, so the sale is going to be close to 250 after overpay


                        I could go on and on with the burning YWN evaluation at 270 which is way off and some of the other ones mentioned at the bottom.


                        Bottomline, duped sales for this are ~200-250. We have a clean sale at 220 with offers peaking at around 250. Seems like duped and clean values aren't really so different. I wouldn't be opposed to setting a high end of 250 based on offers, but I'm going to accept this for now as WAY better than the current range and pretty close to actual value.